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Hi, here.

I guess by now you all have seen the existence of Macstodon - a Mastodon client in the fediverse for Classic Macs!

It needs a SSL stripping component on another computer in the network,
but that should not spoil the fun.

However, it is not trivial to get it to work properly. I have spent a
few hours now and I just won;t make it to the end ;-)

My system: iMac G3, MacOS 9.2.2 on the Macstodon side
And an Intel NUC with standard Debian 12 and webone 0.17.3 on the SSl stripping side

Now, the problem is that I can't finish the login sequence. Almost all
steps go OK - although the possibilities of 'logging in' vary a lot with
the browser in use. Netscape Navigator shows beautiful login bozes, but
no button to actually log in. Internet Explorer about the same
experience. Classilla looks OK, but after logging in it does not provide
me with the promised code, but with an error screen.....

So, no luck. I use vanilla webone, so no changes to the original setup.
The Internet configuration on MacOS 9.2.2 is set so the web proxy points
at the webone machine. The web browsers also work with webone - I have configured their proxy settings.

Anyone?
Regards,
Rene
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:51:28 +0100, Rene Kint wrote:

Hi, here.

I guess by now you all have seen the existence of Macstodon - a Mastodon client in the fediverse for Classic Macs!

It needs a SSL stripping component on another computer in the network,
but that should not spoil the fun.

However, it is not trivial to get it to work properly. I have spent a
few hours now and I just won;t make it to the end ;-)

My system: iMac G3, MacOS 9.2.2 on the Macstodon side And an Intel NUC
with standard Debian 12 and webone 0.17.3 on the SSl stripping side

Now, the problem is that I can't finish the login sequence. Almost all
steps go OK - although the possibilities of 'logging in' vary a lot with
the browser in use. Netscape Navigator shows beautiful login bozes, but
no button to actually log in. Internet Explorer about the same
experience. Classilla looks OK, but after logging in it does not provide
me with the promised code, but with an error screen.....

So, no luck. I use vanilla webone, so no changes to the original setup.
The Internet configuration on MacOS 9.2.2 is set so the web proxy points
at the webone machine. The web browsers also work with webone - I have configured their proxy settings.

Anyone?
Regards,
Rene

I had the same issue back in October also via Webone. I reported it to the developer and turns out Mastodon 4.3 had changed the authentication
method. He was going to fix it but said it would be some time. I've not checked if it's good recently.

There is a workaround though but only easy if you have an easy way to
transfer files (I have shared folders with Netatalk).

- Copy the authentication URL by to a modern machine and log in.
- Copy the token back over to your old Mac and enter into Macstodon.

Once you’re logged in, the rest of the app appears to work!

good luck
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In article <vlqrun$3usl3$1@dont-email.me>, ferg <ferg@scotgate.org>
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:51:28 +0100, Rene Kint wrote:

Hi, here.

I guess by now you all have seen the existence of Macstodon - a Mastodon client in the fediverse for Classic Macs!

It needs a SSL stripping component on another computer in the network,
but that should not spoil the fun.

However, it is not trivial to get it to work properly. I have spent a
few hours now and I just won;t make it to the end ;-)

My system: iMac G3, MacOS 9.2.2 on the Macstodon side And an Intel NUC
with standard Debian 12 and webone 0.17.3 on the SSl stripping side

Now, the problem is that I can't finish the login sequence. Almost all steps go OK - although the possibilities of 'logging in' vary a lot with the browser in use. Netscape Navigator shows beautiful login bozes, but
no button to actually log in. Internet Explorer about the same
experience. Classilla looks OK, but after logging in it does not provide
me with the promised code, but with an error screen.....

So, no luck. I use vanilla webone, so no changes to the original setup.
The Internet configuration on MacOS 9.2.2 is set so the web proxy points
at the webone machine. The web browsers also work with webone - I have configured their proxy settings.

Anyone?
Regards,
Rene

I had the same issue back in October also via Webone. I reported it to the developer and turns out Mastodon 4.3 had changed the authentication
method. He was going to fix it but said it would be some time. I've not checked if it's good recently.

There is a workaround though but only easy if you have an easy way to transfer files (I have shared folders with Netatalk).

- Copy the authentication URL by to a modern machine and log in.
- Copy the token back over to your old Mac and enter into Macstodon.

Once you’re logged in, the rest of the app appears to work!

good luck

Thanks!

Coincidence is I just started looking at netatalk to do exactly that:
provide a file sharing setup between modern machines and my retro ones.

Somewhere I read, though, that AppleTalk doesn't go well with modern
WiFi routers. I'll have to check that out first, as it will be quite
hard to set it up without any WiFi in between. My Ima G3's use a WiFi
bridge as they have no Airports inside. The netatalk server is on the
other side of the house and there is no diect wired ethernet between the
G3s and the netatalk server I am planning to build.

What are your experiences in this area?

Regards,
Rene
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In article <renekint-064E27.18084719012025@news.eternal-september.org>,
Rene Kint <renekint@stnest.net> wrote:

In article <vlqrun$3usl3$1@dont-email.me>, ferg <ferg@scotgate.org>
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:51:28 +0100, Rene Kint wrote:

Hi, here.

I guess by now you all have seen the existence of Macstodon - a Mastodon client in the fediverse for Classic Macs!

It needs a SSL stripping component on another computer in the network, but that should not spoil the fun.

However, it is not trivial to get it to work properly. I have spent a
few hours now and I just won;t make it to the end ;-)

My system: iMac G3, MacOS 9.2.2 on the Macstodon side And an Intel NUC with standard Debian 12 and webone 0.17.3 on the SSl stripping side

Now, the problem is that I can't finish the login sequence. Almost all steps go OK - although the possibilities of 'logging in' vary a lot with the browser in use. Netscape Navigator shows beautiful login bozes, but no button to actually log in. Internet Explorer about the same experience. Classilla looks OK, but after logging in it does not provide me with the promised code, but with an error screen.....

So, no luck. I use vanilla webone, so no changes to the original setup. The Internet configuration on MacOS 9.2.2 is set so the web proxy points at the webone machine. The web browsers also work with webone - I have configured their proxy settings.

Anyone?
Regards,
Rene

I had the same issue back in October also via Webone. I reported it to the developer and turns out Mastodon 4.3 had changed the authentication method. He was going to fix it but said it would be some time. I've not checked if it's good recently.

There is a workaround though but only easy if you have an easy way to transfer files (I have shared folders with Netatalk).

- Copy the authentication URL by to a modern machine and log in.
- Copy the token back over to your old Mac and enter into Macstodon.

Once you’re logged in, the rest of the app appears to work!

good luck

Thanks!

Coincidence is I just started looking at netatalk to do exactly that: provide a file sharing setup between modern machines and my retro ones.

Somewhere I read, though, that AppleTalk doesn't go well with modern
WiFi routers. I'll have to check that out first, as it will be quite
hard to set it up without any WiFi in between. My Ima G3's use a WiFi
bridge as they have no Airports inside. The netatalk server is on the
other side of the house and there is no diect wired ethernet between the
G3s and the netatalk server I am planning to build.

What are your experiences in this area?

Regards,
Rene

I've had Netatalk AFP shares for some time. One via Docker on a Debian
box and the other from a RPi running as a proper Appletalk "router"
with a HAT that connects using Localtalk cables and routes between
ethernet and localtalk!

Docker is particularly easy to setup, it also comes with PAPD (for
Appletalk printers and sharing "normal" printers back to Appletalk),
Tardis (for time synchronisation) and more.

Up to a few months ago you had to use Netatalk 2 as the current version
(then 3) had all the older Appletalk stripped out. But the latest
release, Netatalk 4, does Appletalk just fine and will serve ALL macs
from 68k ones all the way to the last OS X release that still supports
AFP (I cannot remember which that was!).

All my network for this is ethernet/localtalk. But I think the issue
with wifi has been solved. Check the Tinker Different and m68kmla
forums.

Good luck!

The Netatalk pages have all the information that you would need.
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In article <230120251355168971%ferg@scotgate.org>,
ferg <ferg@scotgate.org> wrote:

In article <renekint-064E27.18084719012025@news.eternal-september.org>,
Rene Kint <renekint@stnest.net> wrote:

In article <vlqrun$3usl3$1@dont-email.me>, ferg <ferg@scotgate.org>
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:51:28 +0100, Rene Kint wrote:

Hi, here.

I guess by now you all have seen the existence of Macstodon - a Mastodon
client in the fediverse for Classic Macs!

It needs a SSL stripping component on another computer in the network, but that should not spoil the fun.

However, it is not trivial to get it to work properly. I have spent a few hours now and I just won;t make it to the end ;-)

My system: iMac G3, MacOS 9.2.2 on the Macstodon side And an Intel NUC with standard Debian 12 and webone 0.17.3 on the SSl stripping side

Now, the problem is that I can't finish the login sequence. Almost all steps go OK - although the possibilities of 'logging in' vary a lot with
the browser in use. Netscape Navigator shows beautiful login bozes, but no button to actually log in. Internet Explorer about the same experience. Classilla looks OK, but after logging in it does not provide
me with the promised code, but with an error screen.....

So, no luck. I use vanilla webone, so no changes to the original setup. The Internet configuration on MacOS 9.2.2 is set so the web proxy points
at the webone machine. The web browsers also work with webone - I have configured their proxy settings.

Anyone?
Regards,
Rene

I had the same issue back in October also via Webone. I reported it to the
developer and turns out Mastodon 4.3 had changed the authentication method. He was going to fix it but said it would be some time. I've not checked if it's good recently.

There is a workaround though but only easy if you have an easy way to transfer files (I have shared folders with Netatalk).

- Copy the authentication URL by to a modern machine and log in.
- Copy the token back over to your old Mac and enter into Macstodon.

Once you’re logged in, the rest of the app appears to work!

good luck

Thanks!

Coincidence is I just started looking at netatalk to do exactly that: provide a file sharing setup between modern machines and my retro ones.

Somewhere I read, though, that AppleTalk doesn't go well with modern
WiFi routers. I'll have to check that out first, as it will be quite
hard to set it up without any WiFi in between. My Ima G3's use a WiFi bridge as they have no Airports inside. The netatalk server is on the other side of the house and there is no diect wired ethernet between the G3s and the netatalk server I am planning to build.

What are your experiences in this area?

Regards,
Rene

I've had Netatalk AFP shares for some time. One via Docker on a Debian
box and the other from a RPi running as a proper Appletalk "router"
with a HAT that connects using Localtalk cables and routes between
ethernet and localtalk!

Docker is particularly easy to setup, it also comes with PAPD (for
Appletalk printers and sharing "normal" printers back to Appletalk),
Tardis (for time synchronisation) and more.

Up to a few months ago you had to use Netatalk 2 as the current version
(then 3) had all the older Appletalk stripped out. But the latest
release, Netatalk 4, does Appletalk just fine and will serve ALL macs
from 68k ones all the way to the last OS X release that still supports
AFP (I cannot remember which that was!).

All my network for this is ethernet/localtalk. But I think the issue
with wifi has been solved. Check the Tinker Different and m68kmla
forums.

Good luck!

The Netatalk pages have all the information that you would need.

Thank for the info!

I have successfully set up Netatalk 4.1.1 on my Apple Silicon machine -
it had some caveats, mainly to do with the 'enhanced security' stuff in
MacOS on Apple Silicon machines. But it starts to work ;-)

MacOS 9.2 is connected, moving on to my LC475 (running MacOS 8.1).

Regards,
René
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