• Why isn't there more activity here?

    From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Apr 19 15:38:24 2024
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    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're talking about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to have at least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?


    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?) Does that even still work for accessing Usenet?
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  • From scole@vintageapplemac@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Apr 19 16:49:23 2024
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    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, Sebastian
    P. <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're talking about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to have at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed. I actually, as we speak, have an article in draft for vintageapplemac.com where I'm encouraging Mac users to hit Usenet up,
    now that "Eternal February" is with us post-Google, Usenet could be a
    real boon for vintage computer users, almost our own enclave! I will be
    posting it at the weekend, if I manage to entice a single vintage Mac
    user to take a look here, that'd be a win.

    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?) Does
    that even still work for accessing Usenet?

    No clue, sorry, I'm using YA-NewsWatcher.
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  • From John@john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Apr 25 22:02:00 2024
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    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> writes:

    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, Sebastian
    P. <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech and >> runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're talking
    about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to have >> at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed. I actually, as we speak, have an article in draft for vintageapplemac.com where I'm encouraging Mac users to hit Usenet up,
    now that "Eternal February" is with us post-Google, Usenet could be a
    real boon for vintage computer users, almost our own enclave! I will be posting it at the weekend, if I manage to entice a single vintage Mac
    user to take a look here, that'd be a win.

    Good luck!

    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?)
    Does
    that even still work for accessing Usenet?

    You could use ZTerm to connect to a Unix system via serial or modem,
    then run a command-line newsreader. Not very Mac-ish, of course.


    No clue, sorry, I'm using YA-NewsWatcher.

    If you've got a minute, I'd be interested to hear a comparison between
    the various versions of NewsWatcher, e.g. YA-, MT-, VA-



    john
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  • From Knezzen@contact@unixfiles.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Apr 26 12:19:36 2024
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    In article <864jbp14pz.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:

    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> writes:

    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, Sebastian
    P. <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech >> and
    runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're
    talking
    about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to
    have
    at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed. I actually, as we speak, have an article in draft for vintageapplemac.com where I'm encouraging Mac users to hit Usenet up,
    now that "Eternal February" is with us post-Google, Usenet could be a
    real boon for vintage computer users, almost our own enclave! I will be posting it at the weekend, if I manage to entice a single vintage Mac
    user to take a look here, that'd be a win.

    Good luck!

    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?) >> Does
    that even still work for accessing Usenet?

    You could use ZTerm to connect to a Unix system via serial or modem,
    then run a command-line newsreader. Not very Mac-ish, of course.


    No clue, sorry, I'm using YA-NewsWatcher.

    If you've got a minute, I'd be interested to hear a comparison between
    the various versions of NewsWatcher, e.g. YA-, MT-, VA-



    john

    Usenet is really vintage friendly, indeed. And there's plenty of
    newsreaders around that work really well. I'm using MT-NewsWatcher to
    write this on my PowerBook G4 Titanium.

    Let's hope for a UseNet renaissance!
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  • From John@john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Apr 26 16:17:36 2024
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    Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> writes:

    Usenet is really vintage friendly, indeed. And there's plenty of
    newsreaders around that work really well. I'm using MT-NewsWatcher to
    write this on my PowerBook G4 Titanium.

    Let's hope for a UseNet renaissance!

    I have no doubt Usenet will outlive the last set of non-broken TiBook
    hinges.

    One reason I don't use mine much anymore is the terrible groaning creak
    it makes when I open the lid. I just dread that inevitable CRACK.

    john
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Apr 26 20:50:19 2024
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    Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:

    [...]
    Usenet is really vintage friendly, indeed. And there's plenty of
    newsreaders around that work really well. I'm using MT-NewsWatcher to
    write this on my PowerBook G4 Titanium.

    I'm using MacSOUP 2.4.6 on a beige G3 running OS 8.6
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From scole@vintageapplemac@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 3 07:59:37 2024
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    In article <864jbp14pz.fsf@building-m.net>, John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:

    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> writes:>

    No clue, sorry, I'm using YA-NewsWatcher.

    If you've got a minute, I'd be interested to hear a comparison between
    the various versions of NewsWatcher, e.g. YA-, MT-, VA-

    I have used YA and MT, and also Thoth which is pretty similar, but it
    was about a decade ago that I last used MT so I can't recall the
    nuances.

    They're all much of a muchness, imo. I'm enjoying using YA now more
    than I was enjoying Thoth, though. Can't put my finger on why, because
    they are very similar, I guess that YA feels a little less clunky than
    Thoth.
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  • From mikedee@mikedee@emteedee.invalid (Mike Dee) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue May 7 14:16:50 2024
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    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, "Sebastian P." <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech
    and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're talking about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to
    have at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed, however in usenet terms this froup is very new, and has only
    existed since 2018 or 2019. It takes a while to get a good base of
    posters, especially as it was formed during the darkest period of
    horrendous Google postings (spam, trolling, etc)...

    Maybe we'll see a usenet revival now Google has finally gone, and more
    people will discover this little corner of the usenet ;-)

    Here's hoping.
    --
    Dee
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  • From scott@scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue May 7 17:10:37 2024
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    In article <864jbp14pz.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> writes:
    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?) >>> Does
    that even still work for accessing Usenet?

    You could use ZTerm to connect to a Unix system via serial or modem,
    then run a command-line newsreader. Not very Mac-ish, of course.

    FWIW, that's basically what I sometimes did from the Macs in the basement of
    my dorm back in the day, except it was a telnet client connecting over the campus network. Other times, I'd dial in from the IIe in my room, but the computers in the basement lab didn't keep the phone line tied up while they were in use.

    (Of course, back then, "UNIX system" meant anything from a NeXTcube on up to some seriously big iron. Nowadays, a Raspberry Pi would stomp any of them while providing a similar experience. :) )
    --
    _/_
    / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
    (IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
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  • From D Finnigan@dog_cow@macgui.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue May 7 20:27:52 2024
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    Mike Dee wrote:
    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, "Sebastian P." <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech
    and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're
    talking
    about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to
    have at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed, however in usenet terms this froup is very new, and has only
    existed since 2018 or 2019. It takes a while to get a good base of
    posters, especially as it was formed during the darkest period of
    horrendous Google postings (spam, trolling, etc)...

    I have archives for comp.sys.mac.vintage that go back to 2013, ten years
    ago.

    https://macgui.com/usenet/?stats=117
    --
    ]DF$
    The New Apple II User's Guide:
    https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

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  • From Ira Lieberman@iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue May 7 17:43:26 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.vintage

    On Tue, 7 May 2024 20:27:52 -0000 (UTC), D Finnigan
    <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:

    Mike Dee wrote:
    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, "Sebastian P." >> <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech
    and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're
    talking
    about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to
    have at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed, however in usenet terms this froup is very new, and has only
    existed since 2018 or 2019. It takes a while to get a good base of
    posters, especially as it was formed during the darkest period of
    horrendous Google postings (spam, trolling, etc)...

    I have archives for comp.sys.mac.vintage that go back to 2013, ten years
    ago.

    https://macgui.com/usenet/?stats=117

    Same here. I don't know how long the group was around before I
    discovered it, but in 2013 there was an attempt (Stephen Cole) to
    create a FAQ, but I didn't see any follow-ups.

    =IML=

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  • From Mike Dee@mikedee@emteedee.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed May 8 01:31:53 2024
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    Ira Lieberman wrote:

    On Tue, 7 May 2024 20:27:52 -0000 (UTC), D Finnigan
    <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:

    Mike Dee wrote:
    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>,
    [...]
    Agreed, however in usenet terms this froup is very new, and has
    only existed since 2018 or 2019. It takes a while to get a good
    base of posters, especially as it was formed during the darkest
    period of horrendous Google postings (spam, trolling, etc)...

    I have archives for comp.sys.mac.vintage that go back to 2013, ten
    years ago.

    https://macgui.com/usenet/?stats=117

    Same here. I don't know how long the group was around before I
    discovered it, but in 2013 there was an attempt (Stephen Cole) to
    create a FAQ, but I didn't see any follow-ups.

    ISC. Sorry.

    Even so, a decade isn't ancient in usenet terms.

    Google Groups can no longer be posted to. So get posting those good
    actual newsposts, folks :-)
    --
    dee
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  • From John@john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon May 27 16:27:22 2024
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    scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) writes:

    In article <864jbp14pz.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> writes:
    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?) >>>> Does
    that even still work for accessing Usenet?

    You could use ZTerm to connect to a Unix system via serial or modem,
    then run a command-line newsreader. Not very Mac-ish, of course.

    FWIW, that's basically what I sometimes did from the Macs in the basement of my dorm back in the day, except it was a telnet client connecting over the campus network. Other times, I'd dial in from the IIe in my room, but the computers in the basement lab didn't keep the phone line tied up while they were in use.

    (Of course, back then, "UNIX system" meant anything from a NeXTcube on up to some seriously big iron. Nowadays, a Raspberry Pi would stomp any of them while providing a similar experience. :) )

    Hell, I haven't checked but the microcontroller in my floppy emulator
    might be a step up from the Mac Plus :D

    I've got my NAS running an NFS share and anonymous FTP (on a small
    volume) for easy access from vintage systems. The eternal struggle of
    losing the resource fork on non-Mac filesystems is painful, though.


    john
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  • From Otto Reverse@otto@mailfence.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Jun 2 14:21:41 2024
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    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>,
    "Sebastian P." <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're talking about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to have at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?


    On a sidenote: anyone on here via Terminal on a vintage Mac (e.g. ZTerm?) Does
    that even still work for accessing Usenet?

    I though Usenet was dead except for binaries. I was on macos9lives.com
    reading about Subtext, which lead to their article on BBSing (out of curiosity, I'm already a BBS nerd) which lead me to MT-NewsWatcher and
    the free provider Eternal September. I'm using both now. Baton Mail to
    do SMTP auth to my RPi running stunnel for SSL and viola!
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  • From scole@vintageapplemac@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Jun 14 12:14:45 2024
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    In article <dog_cow-1715113670@macgui.com>, D Finnigan
    <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:

    Mike Dee wrote:
    In article <info-5263FF.15382419042024@news.individual.de>, "Sebastian P." <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    You'd think Usenet is just perfect for vintage Mac fans - it's low-tech
    and runs
    fine on a Mac Plus. You can post right from the very machines you're
    talking
    about. If I check other vintage computers, their newsgroups appears to
    have at
    least some more traffic. So why isn't this place more lively?

    Agreed, however in usenet terms this froup is very new, and has only existed since 2018 or 2019. It takes a while to get a good base of
    posters, especially as it was formed during the darkest period of horrendous Google postings (spam, trolling, etc)...

    I have archives for comp.sys.mac.vintage that go back to 2013, ten years
    ago.

    https://macgui.com/usenet/?stats=117

    Christ, more than a decade ago. Where has that 10 years gone?
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