• Who still here uses their very old Macs and their softwares?

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sat Oct 29 20:02:28 2022
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    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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  • From philo@philo@privacy.net to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Nov 2 08:15:46 2022
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    On 10/29/22 3:02 PM, Ant wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)



    I have a few old Macs that I still use from time to time.

    I was once given a Mac older than my laser printer that had the option
    to use a standard Ghost Script driver and all be darned, it worked.

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  • From Oregonian Haruspex@no_email@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Nov 7 22:57:33 2022
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use my PowerBook for music still.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Nov 9 02:31:47 2022
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    Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use my PowerBook for music still.

    Making music?
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  • From CrimsonRE@crimsonre@embarqmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Nov 10 16:32:38 2022
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    Ant wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use a batch of PowerBooks as my daily drivers at home, only resorting
    to a Win laptop when absolutely necessary.

    TenFourFox and Leopard Webkit/Safari as browsers, save stuff to WebDAV
    server. TenFourBird or Apple Mail.app for email, KomPozer for simple
    websites, older LibreOffice for all those dratted MS-type docs...
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Nov 10 23:41:05 2022
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    CrimsonRE <crimsonre@embarqmail.com> wrote:
    Ant wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use a batch of PowerBooks as my daily drivers at home, only resorting
    to a Win laptop when absolutely necessary.

    TenFourFox and Leopard Webkit/Safari as browsers, save stuff to WebDAV server. TenFourBird or Apple Mail.app for email, KomPozer for simple websites, older LibreOffice for all those dratted MS-type docs...

    Do they work well with modern stuff?
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  • From Oregonian Haruspex@no_email@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Nov 13 04:12:16 2022
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use my PowerBook for music still.

    Making music?

    You bet. Also for making Yamaha VL synthesis patches.

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Nov 13 13:46:12 2022
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    I'm still using a beige G3 for everyday office work. Claris Works,
    PageMaker 6.5, Photoshop LE, Graphic Converter, BBEdit, MacSOUP, Claris Homepage, PageMill, Claris Emailer. I also use ICab for testing
    webpages but have a more modern machine and browser for general internat browsing.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Nov 14 00:54:52 2022
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    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    I'm still using a beige G3 for everyday office work. Claris Works,
    PageMaker 6.5, Photoshop LE, Graphic Converter, BBEdit, MacSOUP, Claris Homepage, PageMill, Claris Emailer. I also use ICab for testing
    webpages but have a more modern machine and browser for general internat browsing.

    You test to be sure older web browsers work? Good. ;)
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  • From OldbieOne@me@here.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Nov 18 16:48:07 2022
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    "Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Good question. I use a G4 for recording with Pro Tools through a hardware capture card that's only supported on PPC Macs. I also use Claris on there sometimes, even though I use a 2006 iMac Duo as a "daily driver" for general office use, including browsing the web when needed, and also have a current iMac and custom Windows 95 retro-gaming rig.


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  • From OldbieOne@me@here.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Nov 18 16:48:40 2022
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    "Oregonian Haruspex" <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:tkc2gt$3mk6o$2@dont-email.me...
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use my PowerBook for music still.

    And they work great still!


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  • From OldbieOne@me@here.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Nov 18 16:50:24 2022
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    "CrimsonRE" <crimsonre@embarqmail.com> wrote in message news:tkjqln$kh68$1@dont-email.me...
    Ant wrote:
    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I use a batch of PowerBooks as my daily drivers at home, only resorting
    to a Win laptop when absolutely necessary.

    TenFourFox and Leopard Webkit/Safari as browsers, save stuff to WebDAV server. TenFourBird or Apple Mail.app for email, KomPozer for simple websites, older LibreOffice for all those dratted MS-type docs...


    Do you make your own TenFourFox builds now it's no longer in development?
    I'm curious to see if anyone's been doing that since the code was published?


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  • From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Sep 28 13:20:05 2023
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    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I do use a Mac Mini G4 running Mac OS 9.2 and a Mac IIci running 7.1.
    Both are in almost daily use and I try to do as much as I can on them.
    Since I've found my way here now, there's something else I can do from
    my IIci :-)

    It's a learning curve to find workarounds to "modern" problems - which
    is part of the joy of using the real Mac OS in 2023! You have to be
    ready to "think differently" doing stuff than what you're used to from a modern machine. That said, add in a cheap-o Android smartphone for stuff
    I can't do on the Macintosh (e.g. Online Banking) and I have my perfect
    set-up at home.

    Games that I regularly run are Sim City 2000, Glider Pro and Warlords II
    - among a few more. Here and there Marathon calls. I also still play the recently released two boxed adventures Silk Dust and Hibernated I,
    haven't been able to beat them yet.
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  • From Christopher Smith@scouter@freeuk.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Oct 1 09:03:35 2023
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    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    I am still using my iBook G4, using MT-NewsWatcher on OS X 10.4.11 tiger
    to post this.

    Christopher.
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  • From Knezzen@contact@unixfiles.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Oct 5 12:25:48 2023
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    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Yes indeed! My more or less "daily driver" is my PowerBook G4 Titanium
    1ghz which dual boots OSX Tiger and Mac OS 9.2.2. I tend to spend most
    of my time in 9.2.2 where I can manage my Linux servers using SSHeven, I browse the web using a combination of Classilla and Lynx together with
    Crypto Ancienne to offload TLS. I make music, I edit video, send email
    and write posts like this one on usenet. It's still a very capable
    machine in todays day and age.

    I run together with my friends http://macintoshgarden.org and http://system7today.com which both is excellent resources for old Macs.

    Stay old school ;)
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  • From denodster@denodster@gmail.com (Denodster) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Dec 17 03:31:21 2023
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    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Typing this on a Macintosh LC III today :).
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?=@agisaak@gm.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sat Dec 16 21:24:23 2023
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    On 2023-12-16 20:31, Denodster wrote:
    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Typing this on a Macintosh LC III today :).

    I use a relatively modern mac (albeit one that is still considered
    obsolete). But I still frequently run system 7.5-9.0 in SheepShaver.
    Does that count?

    André
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  • From denodster@denodster@gmail.com (Denodster) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Dec 17 05:30:00 2023
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    In article <ullt5o$2pecf$1@dont-email.me>,
    =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?= <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-12-16 20:31, Denodster wrote:
    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Typing this on a Macintosh LC III today :).

    I use a relatively modern mac (albeit one that is still considered obsolete). But I still frequently run system 7.5-9.0 in SheepShaver.
    Does that count?

    André

    No Judgement here. I use SheepShaver for running codewarrior as it builds
    much faster than a real machine. Though I feel like I've never gotten SheepShaver to the same level of stability as a real machine. I wish I
    could get it there as I wouldn't mind using it play some online games with friends who don't own vintage macs.
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  • From Stephen Thomas Cole@usenet@stephenthomascole.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Dec 22 14:03:03 2023
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    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    I am still using an old Mac! I am posting this from a Power Mac G4
    running OS9. Newsreader is Thoth.

    Saw the news about Google Groups dropping Usenet and figured now might
    be a good time to get back into newsgroups, and what better way than on
    my old Mac. :)
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  • From Knezzen@contact@unixfiles.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jan 2 12:28:42 2024
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    In article <221220231403038752%usenet@stephenthomascole.com>,
    Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:

    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    I am still using an old Mac! I am posting this from a Power Mac G4
    running OS9. Newsreader is Thoth.

    Saw the news about Google Groups dropping Usenet and figured now might
    be a good time to get back into newsgroups, and what better way than on
    my old Mac. :)

    Sure! Writing this on my PowerBook G4 Titanium in Mac OS 9.2.2 using MT-NewsWatcher as my Usenet client. I am involved in running two
    websites dedicated to vintage Macintoshes as well, Macintosh Garden and
    System 7 Today.

    Usenet will hopefully outlive us all :)
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  • From scole@fleet101k@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Jan 5 17:12:12 2024
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    In article <contact-225020.12284102012024@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:

    In article <221220231403038752%usenet@stephenthomascole.com>,
    Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:

    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    I am still using an old Mac! I am posting this from a Power Mac G4
    running OS9. Newsreader is Thoth.

    Saw the news about Google Groups dropping Usenet and figured now might
    be a good time to get back into newsgroups, and what better way than on
    my old Mac. :)

    Sure! Writing this on my PowerBook G4 Titanium in Mac OS 9.2.2 using MT-NewsWatcher as my Usenet client. I am involved in running two
    websites dedicated to vintage Macintoshes as well, Macintosh Garden and System 7 Today.

    I might start using MT-NW again, Thoth is proving a little unstable and
    has caused a few total system crashes... I'm not sure why, haven't
    tried to troubleshoot it, but it seems a bit buggy on this machine.
    Which is a shame, it's a really impressive newsreader.

    I run vintageapplemac.com, although I haven't done a thing with it in
    several years now... I pretty much zoned out on vintage Macs during the pandemic and am now only just getting back into the hobby. I do intend
    to start using my site again, have a couple of neat things I've
    acquired that need archiving and then sharing...

    Usenet will hopefully outlive us all :)

    Absolutely it will, and with Google Groups and the associated spam
    abuse now out of the picture, it will hopefully be healthier for it.
    --
    Fleet Fellow
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  • From James Perih@jperih@mac.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Jan 25 13:43:50 2024
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    in article 050120241712125917%fleet101k@gmail.com, scole at
    fleet101k@gmail.com wrote on 1/5/24 11:12 AM:

    I run vintageapplemac.com, although I haven't done a thing with it in
    several years now... I pretty much zoned out on vintage Macs during the pandemic and am now only just getting back into the hobby. I do intend
    to start using my site again, have a couple of neat things I've
    acquired that need archiving and then sharing...

    Could you use an SSL Issuer who is associated with a Certificate Authority
    that exists in, and is not expired, on older vintage systems? I found that Microsoft Azure is one such issuer... there may be others, as well.

    Until then, I'll use frogfind.com to browse your content.
    --
    James from Canada

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  • From D Finnigan@dog_cow@macgui.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Jan 25 21:06:21 2024
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    James Perih wrote:
    in article 050120241712125917%fleet101k@gmail.com, scole at fleet101k@gmail.com wrote on 1/5/24 11:12 AM:

    I run vintageapplemac.com, although I haven't done a thing with it in
    several years now... I pretty much zoned out on vintage Macs during the
    pandemic and am now only just getting back into the hobby. I do intend
    to start using my site again, have a couple of neat things I've
    acquired that need archiving and then sharing...

    Could you use an SSL Issuer who is associated with a Certificate Authority that exists in, and is not expired, on older vintage systems?

    Add the root certs on your old machine, if you can. Netscape can do it, for example.

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  • From James Perih@jperih@mac.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Jan 25 23:12:06 2024
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    in article dog_cow-1706216780@macgui.com, D Finnigan at dog_cow@macgui.com wrote on 1/25/24 3:06 PM:

    James Perih wrote:
    in article 050120241712125917%fleet101k@gmail.com, scole at
    fleet101k@gmail.com wrote on 1/5/24 11:12 AM:

    I run vintageapplemac.com, although I haven't done a thing with it in
    several years now... I pretty much zoned out on vintage Macs during the
    pandemic and am now only just getting back into the hobby. I do intend
    to start using my site again, have a couple of neat things I've
    acquired that need archiving and then sharing...

    Could you use an SSL Issuer who is associated with a Certificate Authority >> that exists in, and is not expired, on older vintage systems?

    Add the root certs on your old machine, if you can. Netscape can do it, for example.


    I may need some instructions. I found some Keychain Access instructions,
    but... I don't see how I'd import that into Mac OS X 10.2 or older (eg, Classic).

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  • From Knezzen@contact@unixfiles.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Mar 17 17:06:57 2024
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    In article <050120241712125917%fleet101k@gmail.com>,
    scole <fleet101k@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <contact-225020.12284102012024@news.eternal-september.org>, Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:

    In article <221220231403038752%usenet@stephenthomascole.com>,
    Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:

    In article <1PGcnbuxT45JG8D-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And which hardwares and softwares? Gaming too?

    I am still using an old Mac! I am posting this from a Power Mac G4 running OS9. Newsreader is Thoth.

    Saw the news about Google Groups dropping Usenet and figured now might
    be a good time to get back into newsgroups, and what better way than on my old Mac. :)

    Sure! Writing this on my PowerBook G4 Titanium in Mac OS 9.2.2 using MT-NewsWatcher as my Usenet client. I am involved in running two
    websites dedicated to vintage Macintoshes as well, Macintosh Garden and System 7 Today.

    I might start using MT-NW again, Thoth is proving a little unstable and
    has caused a few total system crashes... I'm not sure why, haven't
    tried to troubleshoot it, but it seems a bit buggy on this machine.
    Which is a shame, it's a really impressive newsreader.

    I run vintageapplemac.com, although I haven't done a thing with it in
    several years now... I pretty much zoned out on vintage Macs during the pandemic and am now only just getting back into the hobby. I do intend
    to start using my site again, have a couple of neat things I've
    acquired that need archiving and then sharing...

    Usenet will hopefully outlive us all :)

    Absolutely it will, and with Google Groups and the associated spam
    abuse now out of the picture, it will hopefully be healthier for it.

    Well, welcome back to this wonderful hobby, then! Join us at System 7
    Today for some nice System 7 centric discussions, btw :)
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