Posting on my LC 475 running Internews. This is my first time on
Usenet and I'm thrilled to find this group. Running system 7.6.1 and
MacIP via an old cisco router. It's been a fun project and I'm
thrilled to get to use it like this.
What kind of hardware are you all running? and how did you get it
online?
Nice! I still have an LC 475 in the closet here. Love that pizza box
case... : )
My oldest Mac is a Mac SE/30 which was originally purchased by my father
in the late 1980s. It was our first Mac. All of our other computers at
the time ran their own specific command-line operating system with no graphical interface or mouse - just ugly text on an ugly screen. Home Computers back then either used tape drives for storage or had floppy
drives with their own flavor of DOS.
The Mac we brought home was completely different. It was relatively
small compared to most computers of the time, was self-contained
(screen, CPU, floppy drive, etc were all housed in the case) and could
be carried with one hand. And unlike most, not only did it come with a
mouse, but the mouse was actually *required* to use it.
It completely changed the way I looked at computers for the better. And
while I was very much into programming our trusty TRS-80s in Basic and
Zilog assembly, the Mac with an OS geared from the ground up to be
driven by the GUI, along with Apple’s rich APIs and Pascal / 68k
assembly programming languages immediately took my attention and
opened new worlds to me. And the Mac SE/30 was pretty fast for a
computer at that time - hence the name. : )
Zippy is old, but still runs fine. I've replaced the cooling fan,
upgraded the RAM, and replaced the hard drive over the years. But other
than that, the hardware all original. It's currently running system
7.5.5, has an Asante MacCon 10 megabit Ethernet card installed in the
PDS expansion slot for internet connectivity, and runs the MacHTTP web
server full time, hosting a little website:
<http://zippy.kicks-ass.org:9997>
In article <iunp7lF31drU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
Nice! I still have an LC 475 in the closet here. Love that pizza box
case... : )
One of my favorite computer designs,
It's too bad the only way to get a PPC is to find one of those elusive upgrades. Unfortunately mine has come plastic damage, maybe I'll
acquire a non-working one at some point.
My oldest Mac is a Mac SE/30 which was originally purchased by my father
in the late 1980s. It was our first Mac. All of our other computers at
the time ran their own specific command-line operating system with no
graphical interface or mouse - just ugly text on an ugly screen. Home
Computers back then either used tape drives for storage or had floppy
drives with their own flavor of DOS.
The Mac we brought home was completely different. It was relatively
small compared to most computers of the time, was self-contained
(screen, CPU, floppy drive, etc were all housed in the case) and could
be carried with one hand. And unlike most, not only did it come with a
mouse, but the mouse was actually *required* to use it.
It completely changed the way I looked at computers for the better. And
while I was very much into programming our trusty TRS-80s in Basic and
Zilog assembly, the Mac with an OS geared from the ground up to be
driven by the GUI, along with Apple’s rich APIs and Pascal / 68k
assembly programming languages immediately took my attention and
opened new worlds to me. And the Mac SE/30 was pretty fast for a
computer at that time - hence the name. : )
My first mac was a IIcx that my dad acquired at a surplus auction, with a portrait monitor. I remember being floored that it didn't have any
scrolling text or command line the first time I booted it up. Apple was
truly thinking different with these machines. As much as I believe they
made the right decision with Unix being the basis of OS X, I can't help
but feel like something was lost the day they added a terminal to the Mac.
I've recently acquired Inside Macintosh Volumes 1-6 and I've been trying
to think up a project I would like to work on. Web development is my day
job and I know how to program in C, so I think I could come up with some classic mac apps.
Zippy is old, but still runs fine. I've replaced the cooling fan,
upgraded the RAM, and replaced the hard drive over the years. But other
than that, the hardware all original. It's currently running system
7.5.5, has an Asante MacCon 10 megabit Ethernet card installed in the
PDS expansion slot for internet connectivity, and runs the MacHTTP web
server full time, hosting a little website:
<http://zippy.kicks-ass.org:9997>
Love the website, it works pretty well on my LC 475, good work!
Nice! I still have an LC 475 in the closet here. Love that pizza box
case... : )
One of my favorite computer designs,
Yep, a great case design from when Apple actually allowed people to
upgrade their computers ... just pop the lid, no screws to bother with.
It's basically a more flattened copy of the old Apple II design.
I've recently acquired Inside Macintosh Volumes 1-6 and I've been trying
to think up a project I would like to work on. Web development is my day job and I know how to program in C, so I think I could come up with some classic mac apps.
Depending on which version of Classic Mac OS you're aiming at, Pascal
can be a option bet than C.
I was recently given a Quadra running OS-8.
Though I could put it on-line, I was more curious about setting up a printer.
To my amazement I was able to use my networked laser printer. Though the printer is 15 years newer than the computer ...because of Postscript it worked!
I was recently given a Quadra running OS-8.
Though I could put it on-line, I was more curious about setting up a printer.
To my amazement I was able to use my networked laser printer. Though
the printer is 15 years newer than the computer ...because of
Postscript it worked!
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Yep, a great case design from when Apple actually allowed people tomac pro is easily upgraded without any screws and in all sorts of ways.
upgrade their computers ... just pop the lid, no screws to bother with.
It's basically a more flattened copy of the old Apple II design.
intel mac mini is also easy.
Depending on which version of Classic Mac OS you're aiming at, Pascalthere is no advantage for pascal, or c for that matter.
can be a option bet than C.
c++ would be the best choice.
I was recently given a Quadra running OS-8.printer is 15 years newer than the computer ...because of Postscript it worked!
Though I could put it on-line, I was more curious about setting up a printer.
To my amazement I was able to use my networked laser printer. Though the
I've recently acquired Inside Macintosh Volumes 1-6 and I've been trying
to think up a project I would like to work on. Web development is my day
job and I know how to program in C, so I think I could come up with some classic mac apps.
Yep, a great case design from when Apple actually allowed people tomac pro is easily upgraded without any screws and in all sorts of ways.
upgrade their computers ... just pop the lid, no screws to bother with. >> It's basically a more flattened copy of the old Apple II design.
After you break your wallet buying it.
intel mac mini is also easy.
As far as I can tell, that one may be easy but has a bunch of screws.
The LC is probably between this IIsi and Quadra 610 in complexity, but
ifixit doesn't have a guide for it so I can't be certain:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Macintosh+IIsi+Disassembly/2748
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Macintosh+Quadra+610+Teardown/55176
The IIsi and the 128K are the only "classic mac" they have guides for
that I've taken apart myself.
The IIci was virtually the same as the
IIsi for opening / repair work.
The IIe (not a Mac, but in the "Classic
Mac" section" was easy to open, but used more screws.
Depending on which version of Classic Mac OS you're aiming at, Pascalthere is no advantage for pascal, or c for that matter.
can be a option bet than C.
I've programmed for System 7 in C. You definitely got the feel that a
lot of stuff was written for Pascal, eg seeing Pascal style strings
in places.
c++ would be the best choice.
What C++? The C++ of today is nothing like the C++ of the late 1990s.
In comp.sys.mac.vintage, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Yep, a great case design from when Apple actually allowed people tomac pro is easily upgraded without any screws and in all sorts of ways.
upgrade their computers ... just pop the lid, no screws to bother with.
It's basically a more flattened copy of the old Apple II design.
After you break your wallet buying it.
intel mac mini is also easy.
As far as I can tell, that one may be easy but has a bunch of screws.
The LC is probably between this IIsi and Quadra 610 in complexity, but
ifixit doesn't have a guide for it so I can't be certain:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Macintosh+IIsi+Disassembly/2748
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Macintosh+Quadra+610+Teardown/55176
The IIsi and the 128K are the only "classic mac" they have guides for
that I've taken apart myself. The IIci was virtually the same as the
IIsi for opening / repair work. The IIe (not a Mac, but in the "Classic
Mac" section" was easy to open, but used more screws.
Depending on which version of Classic Mac OS you're aiming at, Pascalthere is no advantage for pascal, or c for that matter.
can be a better option than C.
I've programmed for System 7 in C. You definitely got the feel that a
lot of stuff was written for Pascal, eg seeing Pascal style strings
in places.
c++ would be the best choice.
What C++? The C++ of today is nothing like the C++ of the late 1990s.
Elijah
------
C has changed, too, but slower
Some models of Mac Pro and PowerMac towers require hinging out sections
to get to other sections, so not as easy as the old LC 'pop the lid and you're in'.
There was one Mac Mini model where the base could be turned to get it
off, but that only allowed limited access. Anything else did require unscrewing bits and sliding the motherboard out the back.
Many of the Mac Mini models aren't very upgradable, if at all, anyway because Apple now tends to solder everything down. :(
Early versions of the Mac OS were written in / for Pascal programming.
MacOS 8 was when C really took over,
so if you're planning to write
programs for earlier than that, you're best to use Pascal.
Lightspeed /
Think Pascal is my personal favourite programming environment, even
today there's still nothing that comes close to its ease-of-use.
Denodster wrote:
I've recently acquired Inside Macintosh Volumes 1-6 and I've been trying
to think up a project I would like to work on. Web development is my day job and I know how to program in C, so I think I could come up with some classic mac apps.
There's no time to lose. Better get started reading others' Macintosh code, even if you do nothing else. Check out the MacTutor/MacTech archives. Also the Apple Developer CD. Both include lots of sample code.
The MacTutor archives should be online at this URL: https://preserve.mactech.com/articles/index.html
I wasn't able to load it just now, so maybe it'll work later. :-/
Posting on my LC 475 running Internews. This is my first time on Usenet
and I'm thrilled to find this group. Running system 7.6.1 and MacIP via
an old cisco router. It's been a fun project and I'm thrilled to get to
use it like this.
What kind of hardware are you all running? and how did you get it
online?
In article <sm502u$nbh$2@dont-email.me>,
denodster@gmail.com (denodster) wrote:
Posting on my LC 475 running Internews. This is my first time on Usenet
and I'm thrilled to find this group. Running system 7.6.1 and MacIP via
an old cisco router. It's been a fun project and I'm thrilled to get to
use it like this.
What kind of hardware are you all running? and how did you get it
online?
I'm using MT-Newswatcher 2.4.4 on my Mac IIci. As far as I know, it's
the last version for 68k Macintoshes. It works really nice! The IIci
sports 32 MB RAM (who'd ever need that much RAM anyway, right?)
Recently invested into a PiSCSI (RaSCSI) add-on that provides my IIci
with an internet connection and a virtual CD drive by sacrificing an old Raspberry Pi I had left.
I'm really excited how well the IIci and Usenet communicate together.
Feels natural.
In article <sm502u$nbh$2@dont-email.me>,
denodster@gmail.com (denodster) wrote:
Posting on my LC 475 running Internews. This is my first time on Usenet
and I'm thrilled to find this group. Running system 7.6.1 and MacIP via
an old cisco router. It's been a fun project and I'm thrilled to get to
use it like this.
What kind of hardware are you all running? and how did you get it
online?
I'm using MT-Newswatcher 2.4.4 on my Mac IIci. As far as I know, it's
the last version for 68k Macintoshes. It works really nice! The IIci
sports 32 MB RAM (who'd ever need that much RAM anyway, right?)
Recently invested into a PiSCSI (RaSCSI) add-on that provides my IIci
with an internet connection and a virtual CD drive by sacrificing an old Raspberry Pi I had left.
I'm really excited how well the IIci and Usenet communicate together.
Feels natural.
In article <info-ACF699.13284228092023@nntp-new.eternal-september.org>, "Sebastian P." <info@cornica.org> wrote:
In article <sm502u$nbh$2@dont-email.me>,
denodster@gmail.com (denodster) wrote:
Posting on my LC 475 running Internews. This is my first time on Usenet and I'm thrilled to find this group. Running system 7.6.1 and MacIP via an old cisco router. It's been a fun project and I'm thrilled to get to use it like this.
What kind of hardware are you all running? and how did you get it
online?
I'm using MT-Newswatcher 2.4.4 on my Mac IIci. As far as I know, it's
the last version for 68k Macintoshes. It works really nice! The IIci sports 32 MB RAM (who'd ever need that much RAM anyway, right?)
Recently invested into a PiSCSI (RaSCSI) add-on that provides my IIci
with an internet connection and a virtual CD drive by sacrificing an old Raspberry Pi I had left.
I'm really excited how well the IIci and Usenet communicate together. Feels natural.
You're right, Newswatcher is a much better experience, using that now.
I connect using a Farallon Etherwave serial to ethernet appletalk bridge. It's a pretty nifty peice of hardware. Saves my PDS Slot for other
nonsense like a IIe card.
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