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  • Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 17 00:14:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
    for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 17 06:55:51 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
    for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
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  • From Alan Browne@bitbucket@blackhole.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 17 08:49:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
    for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.
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    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 17 13:09:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Tue Sep 17 13:07:24 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-16 21:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/
    rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
    for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.


    Why would it be "utter nonsense" to apply an upDATE to an OS?

    Presumably, the most recent updates to Ventura are for bugs that Apple identified, rather than to add new features.

    macOS Venture 13.7 was released YESTERDAY.

    So why wouldn't you want that?
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 03:59:24 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.

    You are obviously not familiar with the Apple support policy.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 08:09:50 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.

    You understand not much: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

    And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 08:10:09 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 17.09.24 14:49, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Idiot:

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 07:54:01 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-17 23:09, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ >>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and >>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked >>>>> and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same >>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but >>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log >>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.

    You understand not much: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

    And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.


    So what?

    Why is that important?
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 16:47:18 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-18, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ >>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and >>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked >>>>> and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same >>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but >>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log >>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.

    You understand not much: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

    Go ahead and tell us which patches are missing from Ventura, since you
    are supposedly so knowledgeable, Jerk.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 21:27:01 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    So I tried again yesterday morning, but this time I didn't lock my
    session since I was near by. It upgraded successfully.

    However, I ran into a new issue. Every time I reboot and relog into an
    macOS account, it said I didn't shut down properly and gave me an option
    to report to Apple with this crash dump (copied and pasted its texts,
    and uploaded to https://zimage.com/~ant/temp/macOSventura13.7afterRebootAndLoggingIn.txt). Panic with NVME. That sounded bad. So, I tried shutting down MBP and
    powering it back up. No more crashes. That was scary. I hope it was a
    hiccup. Yes, there are back ups.


    In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
    for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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  • From Alan Browne@bitbucket@blackhole.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wed Sep 18 17:59:37 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-18 02:10, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 14:49, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
    Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
    macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
    and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
    status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
    nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
    into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia". [ AAA ] <-------
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support. >>
    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Idiot:

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

    So Sequoia was released ____ 2 days ago ____ and you believe it to be unsupported? See [ AAA ] above.
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  • From John Hill@watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Sep 19 08:14:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 18 Sep 2024 at 07:09:50 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ >>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and >>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked >>>>> and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same >>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but >>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
    cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log >>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.

    You understand not much: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

    And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.

    Have pity on those of us who have no option. My iMac is the 2017 model and is stuck at Ventura. I have no particular need to get a newer model even if I could afford it.

    Old John.
    --
    Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
    the courage to change the things I can,
    and the wisdom to know the difference.
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Sep 19 09:26:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

    On 18 Sep 2024 at 07:09:50 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
    Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/ >>>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and >>>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
    download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
    asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked >>>>>> and showed me
    https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
    (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same >>>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
    Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

    So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but >>>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker >>>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log >>>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

    So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you >>>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
    What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

    macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

    Your nuts are numb. Again.

    Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on. >>
    You understand not much:
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

    And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.

    Have pity on those of us who have no option. My iMac is the 2017 model and is stuck at Ventura. I have no particular need to get a newer model even if I could afford it.

    Ventura and earlier macOS releases are still receiving security updates
    so no nneed need to panic re malware at least.

    <https://eclecticlight.co/2024/09/18/apple-has-just-released-an-update-to-xprotect-16/>
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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