• Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today

    From Andrew@andrew@spam.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Sep 11 16:35:39 2024
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    Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

    Everything Apple Announced Today:
    iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

    <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

    Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:

    1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
    2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
    3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
    4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
    5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

    The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.
    --
    Nobody spends less than Apple in R&D (by size); nor more in marketing.
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  • From Wilf@wilf21@is.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Sep 11 22:03:33 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
    Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

    Everything Apple Announced Today:
    iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

    <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

    Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:

    1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
    2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
    3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
    4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
    5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

    The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.


    I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
    technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and why
    should I care?
    --
    Wilf
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Sep 11 22:38:22 2024
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    Wilf wrote:

    I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
    technology and although you may or may not be right about the
    supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
    If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
    so, and why should I care?


    I like my iPhone too. There are some things it does and certain apps
    which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without. But I think
    what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has
    severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
    phone manufacturers. This type of mentality is not tolerated and
    immediately assailed by those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem.
    There can't be a real discussion without personal insults and talking
    past each other. If anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately
    labeled a troll or heretic. It's much like the political discourse
    these days.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Sep 12 01:00:54 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
    Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

    Everything Apple Announced Today:
    iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

    <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

    Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them: >>
    1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
    2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
    3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
    4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
    5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

    The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
    now.

    I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
    technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
    why should I care?

    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
    are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.
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    JR
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Sep 11 22:47:43 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 9/11/2024 9:00 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
    Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

    Everything Apple Announced Today:
    iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

    <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

    Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them: >>>
    1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
    2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
    3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
    4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9") >>> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom >>>
    The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
    now.

    I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
    technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
    superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like
    something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
    why should I care?

    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
    are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.


    Bingo
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system on Thu Sep 12 18:28:14 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-11 22:38:22 +0000, badgolferman said:
    Wilf wrote:

    I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
    technology and although you may or may not be right about the
    supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
    If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
    so, and why should I care?

    I like my iPhone too. There are some things it does and certain apps
    which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without. But I think
    what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
    phone manufacturers.

    iOS also has less problems, less malware, and far less garbage apps
    than Android. It also works mostly properly and sensibly, unlike the disastorous mess of Android where every different manufacture adds
    their own crap into it.



    This type of mentality is not tolerated and immediately assailed by
    those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. There can't be a real discussion without personal insults and talking past each other. If
    anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately labeled a troll or heretic. It's much like the political discourse these days.


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  • From David Brooks@BDB@nomail.afraid.org to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Sep 12 10:14:40 2024
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    On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    [....]
    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
    are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.

    How about /this/ matter, JR?

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=172613227600

    Your views welcomed.

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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Sep 12 16:13:09 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    [....]
    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
    are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.

    How about /this/ matter, JR?

    Not interested in random links.

    Sorry.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From Andrew@andrew@spam.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Sep 12 16:54:31 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Sep 2024 16:13:09 GMT :

    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they >>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.

    How about /this/ matter, JR?

    Not interested in random links.

    Sorry.

    If someone is going to bother to post a related link, I click on the link;
    but this link to Howard Knight went to an Apple discussion forum.
    <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022>

    What I find interesting about Apple ngs is that the truth about Apple
    products is not tolerated - yet every other OS newsgroups allows facts.

    Why not?

    The fact is the article said Apple announced this about the new iPhones.
    1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
    2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
    3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
    4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
    5. A "host of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom"

    That's just a fact.
    Why should a simple fact such as that, provoke such hatred on an Apple ng?

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  • From David Brooks@BDB@nomail.afraid.org to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Sep 12 19:42:36 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    [....]
    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they >>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.

    How about /this/ matter, JR?

    Not interested in random links.

    Sorry.

    From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
    Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100

    Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>

    Here are the facts:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022

    Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?

    Thanks if you can. :-D
    --
    David
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Sep 12 22:13:12 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    [....]
    Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
    Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they >>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
    Andrew is one such troll.

    How about /this/ matter, JR?

    Not interested in random links.

    Sorry.

    From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
    Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100

    Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>

    Here are the facts:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022

    Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?

    Thanks if you can. :-D

    Again, not interested.

    Sorry.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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