• Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken bymacOS 14.4 update

    From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Thu Mar 21 19:18:25 2024
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    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    :(

    All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with
    multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong?

    Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
    sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider
    that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in
    making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide
    spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally
    makes them more money.

    Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states
    that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links
    to Apple and reddit).

    I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
    literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about
    Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks.

    BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
    virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs.


    TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a
    detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change after the release candidate: https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4


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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Mon Mar 25 19:40:44 2024
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    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 22.03.24 09:06, Chris wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 21.03.24 20:18, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20, OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-03-20 00:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-03-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    :(

    All of our USB hubs, printers, and more are working just fine with >>>>>>> multiple different model Macs running 14.4. What are we doing wrong? >>>>>>>
    Rather than being a gullible rube who blindly believes every
    sensational clickbait hit piece you read, you may want to consider >>>>>>> that the people who post these articles have a monetary interest in >>>>>>> making relatively small issues appear to be larger and more wide >>>>>>> spread than they actually are - because getting more clicks literally >>>>>>> makes them more money.

    Ars Technica is fairly respectable. The author of the article states >>>>>> that his machine was not affected but others are affected (with links >>>>>> to Apple and reddit).

    I didn't claim there is no issue - just that media has an incentive to >>>>> sensationalize it. Even Ars Technica wants more clicks, because it
    literally pays their bills. And it's a well-known fact that news about >>>>> Apple gets clicks, and negative news about Apple gets the most clicks. >>>>>
    BTW, the OP, Ant, posted about this with a frowny face - but I can
    virtually guarantee you he isn't having these problems on his own Macs. >>>>>

    TBF Oracle themselves are advising against updating to 14.4. There's a >>>> detailed explanation here, apparently there was quite a significant change >>>> after the release candidate:
    https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4

    Oracle is not really a relevant source for a decision to avoid or
    execute Mac-updates. They should try to get their act together.

    Eh, what? Oracle own Java. They're the most relevant source of information >> for java issues.

    I did not say anything else. Learn to read and understand. Oracle is irrelevant for Mac-users.

    Fixed in today’s 14.4.1 release.

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/03/25/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-4-1/>
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    Cheers, Alan
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