• Re: I humbly apologize to the Apple ng for getting a fact (slightly) wrong!

    From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Apr 25 14:35:05 2026
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    Interestingly, two days ago Chris got a fact dead wrong, and I politely corrected Chris' mistake (with a reference cite, of course) yesterday.

    Today, Chris casually mentioned that he got that fact wrong.

    On the Android newsgroup, all we do is correct the facts, with references.

    What do you think would have happened if Chris got that fact wrong here?

    From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
    Subject: Re: Security updates in the EU.
    Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 17:03:11 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <10sg7of$7rp2$1@dont-email.me>

    Actually it's not. Samsung (France) are doing the same. https://www.samsung.com/fr/smartphones/galaxy-s/

    Which is going to be problematic for Samsung as the S24 is not covered by
    their 7 year support guarantee.

    From: Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
    Subject: Re: Security updates in the EU.
    Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 17:59:11 -0600
    Message-ID: <10sh04f$l83$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Chris wrote:
    Which is going to be problematic for Samsung as the S24 is not covered by their 7 year support guarantee.

    Hi Chris,

    As far as I'm aware, the first Samsung phones to receive the 7-year promise
    of software support are the Galaxy S24 series (S24, S24+, and S24 Ultra).

    <https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-smartphones-seven-years-android-one-ui-updates-eligibility/>

    From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
    Subject: Re: Security updates in the EU.
    Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2026 09:02:43 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <10shvvj$n25d$1@dont-email.me>

    Which is going to be problematic for Samsung as the S24 is not covered by their 7 year support guarantee.

    My mistake the S24 were the first series to be covered by the 7 years of support. We'll see how well that turns out in reality...
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Apr 26 12:50:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:
    as proven by EU benchmarks.
    I have published an analysis of the benchmarks which show that efficiency
    is the defining feature of battery performance across hundreds of phone models. You persistently refuse to acknowledge it. I recently updated it here.
    https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197

    You're simply wilfully ignorant and dogmatic.

    Hi Chris,

    For you to claim I'm 'wilfully' (actually willfully) ignorant, is kind of funny.

    But I'll excuse what I hope is a mere typo to summarize what we've learned
    in the recent thread comparing the iPhone 17 Pro Max & Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra.

    Given I'm extremely well educated in engineering and science, I'm open to anyone bringing up any errors or omissions I may have made in this thread.

    Newsgroups: Newsgroups: misc.phonmisc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,uk.telecom.mobile
    Subject: Re: EU standards compare Apple iPhone 17 Pro Max & Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra battery lifetime
    Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:39:38 -0600
    Message-ID: <10slm59$1mhi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Andy Newman wrote:
    Here, here!

    Since these facts, explained as they are, are likely nowhere else in the Internet in one spot, religious zealots who believe only in the (admittedly brilliant) propaganda, have no adult response other than ad hominems.

    Their childish taunts actually prove actual facts made an actual impact.
    This is progress...

    We've accomplished a lot in this thread, using published UK/EU forced
    facts, which I take the liberty to summarize below for all to benefit.

    Those who are not as well educated in sciences and engineering as I am
    might be shocked by the results we found out, which are summarized below.

    1. When we compared the Galaxy S26 Ultra to the iPhone 17 Pro Max...
    a. Efficiency:
    Samsung wins. It gets 55 hours out of 4.855Ah,
    while Apple gets 53 hours out of 4.8Ah.
    b. Capacity:
    Samsung wins, though Apple has finally started closing the
    historic battery-capacity gap (but only recently).
    c. Durability:
    Samsung wins. The 1,200 cycle rating on Samsung's 2026 chemistry
    provides the Kill-Time victory despite Apple's "efficiency" claims.

    2. When we compared legally promised "full-support" windows
    a. iPhone 15(+), Minimum 5 years from the first supply date
    b. Pixel 8(+), 7 years of Security Updates, OS Updates & Feature Drops
    c. Galaxy S24(+), 7 years of Security Updates & Android OS Upgrades

    3. When we compared what "support" means (including Pixel for Andy)
    a. Apple drops full support the instant the next release ships
    but Apple doesn't ever define what CVEs go into full support
    ahead of time. So we'd have to look to see if EVERY CVE is patched.
    Most likely Apple patches from 8-10 severity CVEs, but I have NOT
    researched to that level of detail what level of CVE is "FULL".

    b. Google actually publishes the list in the ASB that they will patch.
    But Google's monthly support patches seem to slow down in later years
    but the actual list of CVEs fixed remains those that are in the ASB.

    c. Samsung uses the ASB + Samsung has further lists that they publish.
    Their support also "slows down" as the phone ages, but it's still
    inclusive of all the vulnerabilities listed in their published lists.

    4. When we discussed the tangential topic of AppleCare+ specifically,
    we mathematically proved that it more than doubles the price of the
    iPhone over the 7-year expected lifetime of that iPhone in most cases.

    While all the calculations are in this thread, we need to add the
    equivalent Samsung Care+ which, unfortunately, isn't as standardized.
    Subject: AppleCare+ basically more than doubles the cost of a typical iPhone.
    Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 18:47:45 -0600
    Message-ID: <10sh2vh$oqb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Is there anything else of import we should discuss to compare devices?

    Like anyone who is extremely well educated in engineering & the sciences,
    I'm open to correction of any mathematical calculations stated herein.
    --
    Many people believe brilliant propaganda, but I believe only in facts.
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