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Tom Elam wrote:

And I hated my Moto too. Zero updates. I bought it at Costco only
because it had (I think) 64 GB internal storage. I found SD card to be almost useless. Most apps I used wanted to install on internal storage
only. Some would install on the SD card but at the next reboot moved to internal. Apple is SO much easier. All in one place.

There was the Android file manager. I could NEVER figure out where files were located. iOS is not much better.

Liked the Android removable battery too, but that is gone now for the
most part. iPhones last all day, and that is all I need. I cannot figure
out how to use a phone while sleeping. Did you?

Given I'm extremely well educated in engineering and science, I'm open to anyone bringing up any errors or omissions I may have made in this thread.

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Subject: Re: EU standards compare Apple iPhone 17 Pro Max & Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra battery lifetime
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:39:38 -0600
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Andy Newman wrote:

Here, here!

Since these facts, explained as they are, are likely nowhere else in the Internet in one spot, religious zealots who believe only in the (admittedly brilliant) propaganda, have no adult response other than ad hominems.

Their childish taunts actually prove actual facts made an actual impact.
This is progress...

We've accomplished a lot in this thread, using published UK/EU forced
facts, which I take the liberty to summarize below for all to benefit.

Those who are not as well educated in sciences and engineering as I am
might be shocked by the results we found out, which are summarized below.

1. When we compared the Galaxy S26 Ultra to the iPhone 17 Pro Max...
a. Efficiency:
Samsung wins. It gets 55 hours out of 4.855Ah,
while Apple gets 53 hours out of 4.8Ah.
b. Capacity:
Samsung wins, though Apple has finally started closing the
historic battery-capacity gap (but only recently).
c. Durability:
Samsung wins. The 1,200 cycle rating on Samsung's 2026 chemistry
provides the Kill-Time victory despite Apple's "efficiency" claims.

2. When we compared legally promised "full-support" windows
a. iPhone 15(+), Minimum 5 years from the first supply date
b. Pixel 8(+), 7 years of Security Updates, OS Updates & Feature Drops
c. Galaxy S24(+), 7 years of Security Updates & Android OS Upgrades

3. When we compared what "support" means (including Pixel for Andy)
a. Apple drops full support the instant the next release ships
but Apple doesn't ever define what CVEs go into full support
ahead of time. So we'd have to look to see if EVERY CVE is patched.
Most likely Apple patches from 8-10 severity CVEs, but I have NOT
researched to that level of detail what level of CVE is "FULL".

b. Google actually publishes the list in the ASB that they will patch.
But Google's monthly support patches seem to slow down in later years
but the actual list of CVEs fixed remains those that are in the ASB.

c. Samsung uses the ASB + Samsung has further lists that they publish.
Their support also "slows down" as the phone ages, but it's still
inclusive of all the vulnerabilities listed in their published lists.

4. When we discussed the tangential topic of AppleCare+ specifically,
we mathematically proved that it more than doubles the price of the
iPhone over the 7-year expected lifetime of that iPhone in most cases.

While all the calculations are in this thread, we need to add the
equivalent Samsung Care+ which, unfortunately, isn't as standardized.
Subject: AppleCare+ basically more than doubles the cost of a typical iPhone.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 18:47:45 -0600
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Is there anything else of import we should discuss to compare devices?

Like anyone who is extremely well educated in engineering & the sciences,
I'm open to correction of any mathematical calculations stated herein.
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