• Did the original iOS 10.2.1 release notes disclose performance throttling.

    From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 01:15:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Q: Did the original iOS 10.2.1 release notes disclose performance
    throttling.
    A: ?

    Q: Or, only after the controversy erupted, did Apple update the online
    version of those notes to include the fact that the release was throttled?
    A: ?

    Q: Only after that, did Apple then communicate publicly as if the update
    had always been described that way?
    A: ?
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sun Jan 18 06:24:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22 PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    Q: Did the original iOS 10.2.1 release notes disclose performance
    throttling.
    A: ?

    Q: Or, only after the controversy erupted, did Apple update the online version of those notes to include the fact that the release was throttled?
    A: ?

    Q: Only after that, did Apple then communicate publicly as if the update
    had always been described that way?
    A: ?

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of your iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was intentionally slowing down older iPhones.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 20:05:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22 PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    <snip usual load of pointless know-nothing crap>

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of your iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't
    actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared. It's just the local
    moron troll "Maria" / "Marion" / whatever-name-it-uses-today posting
    his usual pointless know-nothing utter crap. Please don't waste time
    replying to the imbecile.


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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 06:28:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/18/2026 2:05 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22 PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote
    <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    <snip usual load of pointless know-nothing crap>

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of
    your
    iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak
    workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared. It's just the local
    moron troll "Maria" / "Marion" / whatever-name-it-uses-today posting his usual pointless know-nothing utter crap. Please don't waste time
    replying to the imbecile.


    I finally kill-filed the idiot. If we all did that he would see no
    responses and that would really piss him off!
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 14:51:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/18/2026 2:05 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22 PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote
    <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    <snip usual load of pointless know-nothing crap>

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of
    your
    iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak
    workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't
    actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared. It's just the local
    moron troll "Maria" / "Marion" / whatever-name-it-uses-today posting his
    usual pointless know-nothing utter crap. Please don't waste time
    replying to the imbecile.


    I finally kill-filed the idiot. If we all did that he would see no
    responses and that would really piss him off!

    He's also said he won't change his nym until next year. Bliss.

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sun Jan 18 16:54:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jan 18, 2026 at 12:05:08 AM MST, "Your Name" wrote <10ki0n3$37asb$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22 PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote
    <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    <snip usual load of pointless know-nothing crap>

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of your >> iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared. It's just the local
    moron troll "Maria" / "Marion" / whatever-name-it-uses-today posting
    his usual pointless know-nothing utter crap. Please don't waste time
    replying to the imbecile.

    I responded to his nonsense claims with strong evidence and he kill filtered me. :)

    Specifically it was about iOS security. He insisted that iOS users are at no less risk than Android users in terms of exploits and attacks. I showed MANY studies and the like which showed otherwise. He ran away crying.

    So be it.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Sedona Pete@peterbuiltsedona@trux.net to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sun Jan 18 12:16:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    In article <696d1040$5$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...

    On Jan 18, 2026 at 12:05:08AM MST, "Your Name" wrote <10ki0n3$37asb$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote
    <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    <snip usual load of pointless know-nothing crap>

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of your
    iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared. It's just the local
    moron troll "Maria" / "Marion" / whatever-name-it-uses-today posting
    his usual pointless know-nothing utter crap. Please don't waste time replying to the imbecile.

    I responded to his nonsense claims

    Of course you responded, Brock.
    You respond to pretty much every message so you can troll
    and disrupt an otherwise decent group. Why don't you find
    another hobby to keep yourself busy? Stamp collecting
    might be a good match for you.


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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sun Jan 18 17:55:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Jan 18, 2026 at 10:16:46 AM MST, "Sedona Pete" wrote <MPG.43d6df883d2c3b92989708@usnews.blocknews.net>:

    In article <696d1040$5$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...

    On Jan 18, 2026 at 12:05:08 AM MST, "Your Name" wrote
    <10ki0n3$37asb$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22 PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote
    <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    <snip usual load of pointless know-nothing crap>

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of your
    iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't
    actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared. It's just the local
    moron troll "Maria" / "Marion" / whatever-name-it-uses-today posting
    his usual pointless know-nothing utter crap. Please don't waste time
    replying to the imbecile.

    I responded to his nonsense claims

    Of course you responded, Brock.

    That is not in question.

    ...
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 14:18:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-17 22:15, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Q: Did the original...

    Answer: Yes!
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 21:53:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy


    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it wasn't
    actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    Thank you for your assessment that "nobody nogticed nor cared" about
    Apple's actions being fleshed out for review in this newsgroup today.

    To be clear, Apple did not face 'just a handful' of complaints.

    Multiple government regulators and multiple court systems in multiple countries concluded that Apple had misled consumers about the performance impact of iOS 10.2.1 and later updates. Apple then paid large penalties
    and entered large settlements.

    These are not opinions.
    They are formal legal outcomes.

    1. United States class action settlement
    title
    <https://legalclarity.org/apple-inc-device-performance-litigation-settlement/>
    The legal dispute concerning Apple's iPhone performance management
    practices, known as Batterygate, resulted in a major class action
    settlement.

    This page confirms that Apple agreed to a nationwide settlement worth up
    to 500 million dollars. Apple did not admit wrongdoing but paid the
    settlement after court approval.

    2. United States settlement details page
    title
    <https://legalclarity.org/apple-device-performance-litigation-settlement-details/>
    This consumer class action litigation addresses claims that Apple, Inc.
    interfered with the operation of older devices by intentionally reducing
    performance.

    This page confirms that the litigation centered on iOS 10.2.1 and later
    updates and that Apple settled the case.

    3. Italy regulatory action
    title
    <https://www.techbloat.com/apple-italia-has-been-compelled-to-post-an-advisory-statement-regarding-iphone-throttling.html>
    Apple Italia has been compelled to disseminate an advisory statement
    about iPhone throttling.

    This page confirms that Italian regulators forced Apple Italia to publish
    an advisory statement due to nondisclosure of throttling behavior.

    4. France and Italy context summary
    title
    <https://umatechnology.org/apple-italia-has-been-compelled-to-post-an-advisory-statement-regarding-iphone-throttling/>
    Apple Italia has been compelled to disseminate an advisory statement
    about iPhone throttling.

    This page repeats the Italian enforcement action and places it in the
    broader context of European regulatory pressure.

    5. Canada and global consumer claims context
    title
    <https://jointheclaim.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-apple-iphone-consumer-protection-claim/>
    Investigations revealed that Apple had implemented a power management
    feature to prevent unexpected shutdowns in older iPhones with degraded
    batteries. However, this throttling was not disclosed to users.

    This page confirms that the same nondisclosure issue led to consumer
    claims in multiple countries including Canada.

    6. United States settlement payment reporting
    title
    <https://www.nextgenphone.co.uk/apple-set-to-disburse-payments-in-500m-lawsuit-over-batterygate-iphone-throttling/>
    "Apple is set to distribute a 500 million dollar settlement among
    participants in a class action lawsuit from 2020."

    This page confirms that the settlement is active and payments are being
    disbursed.

    Summary
    i. Multiple courts approved class action settlements in the United States
    and Canada.
    ii. Multiple regulators in Europe forced Apple to pay fines or publish
    corrective statements.
    iii. All actions stem from Apple introducing performance management in iOS
    10.2.1 without clear disclosure.
    iv. These outcomes contradict the claim that only a few people noticed or
    cared.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 22:03:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Tom Elam wrote:
    If we all did that he would see no responses

    Hi Tom Elam,

    Thanks for your opinion that I've been on Usenet for decades, where my
    goal is to learn from others, to teach them, and to help answer questions.

    This year, together, we're going to flesh out what Apple truly is.
    Isn't that exciting!

    I wrote up a list of the lawsuits Apple settled (both criminal & civil)
    in response to Apple's actions related to this thread, where here are more
    for you and others on the team to learn how Apple really handed throttling.

    1. Multistate attorneys general settlement, United States
    title
    <https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-becerra-announces-113-million-multistate-settlement-against>
    Attorney General Becerra Announces $113 Million Multistate Settlement
    Against Apple for Misrepresenting iPhone Batteries and Performance
    Throttling

    This page confirms that 33 states and the District of Columbia reached a
    $113 million settlement with Apple over nondisclosure of performance
    throttling.

    2. Connecticut attorney general settlement page
    title
    <https://portal.ct.gov/ag/press-releases/2020-press-releases/ag-tong-announces-settlement-with-apple-over-iphone-throttling>
    Attorney General Tong Announces $113 Million Settlement with Apple over
    iPhone Throttling

    This page confirms that the settlement involved over 30 attorneys general
    and that Apple agreed to pay $113 million.

    3. Tennessee attorney general settlement page
    title
    <https://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/news/2020/11/25/pr20-53.html>
    AG Slatery Announces $113 Million Settlement with Apple over iPhone
    Throttling

    This page confirms that Apple throttled iPhones in 2016 and that the
    multistate investigation led to the $113 million settlement.

    4. United States class action settlement
    title
    <https://legalclarity.org/apple-inc-device-performance-litigation-settlement/>
    The legal dispute concerning Apple's iPhone performance management
    practices, known as Batterygate, resulted in a major class action
    settlement.

    This page confirms that Apple agreed to a nationwide settlement worth up
    to $500 million.

    5. Italy regulatory action
    title
    <https://www.techbloat.com/apple-italia-has-been-compelled-to-post-an-advisory-statement-regarding-iphone-throttling.html>
    Apple Italia has been compelled to disseminate an advisory statement
    about iPhone throttling.

    This page confirms that Italian regulators forced Apple Italia to publish
    an advisory statement due to nondisclosure.

    6. France and Italy context summary
    title
    <https://umatechnology.org/apple-italia-has-been-compelled-to-post-an-advisory-statement-regarding-iphone-throttling/>
    Apple Italia has been compelled to disseminate an advisory statement
    about iPhone throttling.

    This page repeats the Italian enforcement action and places it in a
    broader European context.

    7. Canada and global consumer claims context
    title
    <https://jointheclaim.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-apple-iphone-consumer-protection-claim/>
    Investigations revealed that Apple had implemented a power management
    feature to prevent unexpected shutdowns in older iPhones with degraded
    batteries. However, this throttling was not disclosed to users.

    This page confirms that nondisclosure led to consumer claims in multiple
    countries including Canada.

    Summary
    i. Apple paid $113 million to settle claims brought by 33 states and the
    District of Columbia.
    ii. Apple paid up to $500 million to settle a nationwide class action.
    iii. Apple paid fines or faced enforcement actions in Italy and France.
    iv. Apple faced consumer claims in Canada.
    v. All actions stem from Apple introducing performance management in iOS
    10.2.1 without clear disclosure.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 05:52:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that
    might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than
    used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jan 18 22:12:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that
    might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than
    used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 01:23:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that
    might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than
    used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)


    Unlike yourself.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 09:18:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-18 22:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that
    might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than
    used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)


    Unlike yourself.


    Yes. Very much unlike.

    Do you see me insulting entire groups of people based on their
    technology choices? Ever?
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 17:17:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/19/26 12:18 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 22:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that
    might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than
    used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)

    Unlike yourself.

    Yes. Very much unlike.

    Do you see me insulting entire groups of people based on their
    technology choices? Ever?


    Not openly. That being said, your defenses and promotions of macOS
    imply that there's some inherent value in running it that justifies
    making poor decisions in buying hardware. I can't agree with that.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 14:26:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-19 14:17, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 12:18 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 22:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was >>>>>>> intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that >>>>> might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them >>>>> just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than >>>>> used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)

    Unlike yourself.

    Yes. Very much unlike.

    Do you see me insulting entire groups of people based on their
    technology choices? Ever?


    Not openly.

    So that would be "no", but you lack the balls to just say so.

    That being said, your defenses and promotions of macOS
    imply that there's some inherent value in running it that justifies
    making poor decisions in buying hardware.  I can't agree with that.
    Fine. Don't buy one.

    But many people find inherent value in the device AS A WHOLE.

    That's just a fact.

    The suggestion that, "Iphone users [don't] actually do anything
    important with their devices" is just so much bullshit.

    Agreed?

    That they, "bought them just as showpieces" is in almost every case
    bullshit.

    Agreed?

    And clue time:

    Almost every person who buys a computing device...

    ...including those who use Linux and even those who build their machines
    from components...

    ..."have no idea how [they] actually work."

    Just like people who buy cars don't know how internal combustion engines
    work.

    So, you have a chance here to show that you're not quite the asshole
    Lawrence is.

    Will you step up?

    I very much doubt it.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 18:26:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/19/26 5:26 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-19 14:17, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 12:18 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 22:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was >>>>>>>> intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any* >>>>>> Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that >>>>>> might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them >>>>>> just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than >>>>>> used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it >>>>>> looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)

    Unlike yourself.

    Yes. Very much unlike.

    Do you see me insulting entire groups of people based on their
    technology choices? Ever?

    Not openly.

    So that would be "no", but you lack the balls to just say so.


    OK, I haven't seen it from you, period.


    That being said, your defenses and promotions of macOS imply that
    there's some inherent value in running it that justifies making poor
    decisions in buying hardware.  I can't agree with that.

    Fine. Don't buy one.

    But many people find inherent value in the device AS A WHOLE.

    That's just a fact.

    The suggestion that, "Iphone users [don't] actually do anything
    important with their devices" is just so much bullshit.

    Agreed?

    That they, "bought them just as showpieces" is in almost every case bullshit.

    Agreed?


    To my knowledge, the average smartphone user is about the same whether
    with the higher-end-Android or iOS devices.


    And clue time:

    Almost every person who buys a computing device...

    ...including those who use Linux and even those who build their machines from components...

    ..."have no idea how [they] actually work."

    Just like people who buy cars don't know how internal combustion engines work.


    I know enough about how they work to know that even for developers that
    kind of knowledge is of questionable importance.


    So, you have a chance here to show that you're not quite the asshole Lawrence is.

    Will you step up?

    I very much doubt it.


    It's not that I think you're really so bad, Alan, but Lawrence isn't so
    bad, a little preoccupied with Linux and other such software, but I
    don't blame him when it's really the only viable platform to me.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 15:47:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-19 15:26, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 5:26 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-19 14:17, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 12:18 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 22:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was >>>>>>>>> intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it >>>>>>>> wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any* >>>>>>> Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that >>>>>>> might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought >>>>>>> them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than >>>>>>> used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it >>>>>>> looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)

    Unlike yourself.

    Yes. Very much unlike.

    Do you see me insulting entire groups of people based on their
    technology choices? Ever?

    Not openly.

    So that would be "no", but you lack the balls to just say so.


    OK, I haven't seen it from you, period.

    Thank you.

    Was that really so hard?



    That being said, your defenses and promotions of macOS imply that
    there's some inherent value in running it that justifies making poor
    decisions in buying hardware.  I can't agree with that.

    Fine. Don't buy one.

    But many people find inherent value in the device AS A WHOLE.

    That's just a fact.

    The suggestion that, "Iphone users [don't] actually do anything
    important with their devices" is just so much bullshit.

    Agreed?

    That they, "bought them just as showpieces" is in almost every case
    bullshit.

    Agreed?


    To my knowledge, the average smartphone user is about the same whether
    with the higher-end-Android or iOS devices.

    Right.

    And people who buy iPhones don't to less (or more) that people who buy Androids



    And clue time:

    Almost every person who buys a computing device...

    ...including those who use Linux and even those who build their
    machines from components...

    ..."have no idea how [they] actually work."

    Just like people who buy cars don't know how internal combustion
    engines work.


    I know enough about how they work to know that even for developers that
    kind of knowledge is of questionable importance.

    Exactly.



    So, you have a chance here to show that you're not quite the asshole
    Lawrence is.

    Will you step up?

    I very much doubt it.


    It's not that I think you're really so bad, Alan, but Lawrence isn't so
    bad, a little preoccupied with Linux and other such software, but I
    don't blame him when it's really the only viable platform to me.
    I'm sorry, but his way of thinking about people is revealed in his posts...

    ...and that way of thinking is the way of an asshole.
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  • From Richard Bone@richardbone99@aol.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jan 20 02:07:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:10kmb3d$n7db$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2026-01-19 14:17, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 12:18 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 22:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 1/19/26 1:12 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 21:52, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software
    was intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do
    *any* Iphone users actually do anything important with their
    devices, that might have been affected by performance
    limitations? They bought them just as showpieces -- items of
    adornment, to be flaunted rather than used. “Look at me! I have
    no idea how this actually works, but it looks pretty! I have more
    money than sense!”

    You really are an asshole...

    ...aren't you?

    :-)

    Unlike yourself.

    Yes. Very much unlike.

    Do you see me insulting entire groups of people based on their
    technology choices? Ever?


    Not openly.

    So that would be "no", but you lack the balls to just say so.

    Well seeing as Joel "Warren" Crump enjoys his trans male girlfriend
    screwing him in the ass I doubt he has functioning balls.
    The estrogen he takes has caused them to shrivel up.
    --

    Richard Bone.
    No you cannot call me Dick.
    My name is Richard.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jan 19 21:16:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/19/26 9:07 PM, Richard Bone wrote:

    Well seeing as Joel "Warren" Crump enjoys his trans male girlfriend
    screwing him in the ass I doubt he has functioning balls.
    The estrogen he takes has caused them to shrivel up.


    The W. does stand for Warren, so putting it in quotes really just looks peculiar. I am a cis man, I don't need to take estrogen to enjoy anal
    sex anymore than a gay man would, that's where I have experience with it
    in fact, because I am bisexual.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jan 21 08:35:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/19/2026 12:52 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:05:08 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    On 2026-01-18 06:24:10 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was
    intentionally slowing down older iPhones.

    Other than the usual few loud-mouthed whiners (most of whom it
    wasn't actually a problem for), nobody notice nor cared.

    It seems entirely reasonable to me that no Iphone user actually
    noticed, let alone cared about, such a performance issue. Do *any*
    Iphone users actually do anything important with their devices, that
    might have been affected by performance limitations? They bought them
    just as showpieces -- items of adornment, to be flaunted rather than
    used. “Look at me! I have no idea how this actually works, but it
    looks pretty! I have more money than sense!”

    I noticed. My iPhone 6 battery got so hot that I shut the phone down to
    let it cool off. After that episode battery life was piss-poor. This was before the throttling issue arose. After the overheat in the battery
    section of Settings I got a notice that my battery life had been
    compromised. No shit, it was.
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  • From Sedona Pete@peterbuiltsedona@trux.net to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Jan 21 19:46:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    In article <696c7c8a$7$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...

    On Jan 17, 2026 at 11:15:22PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote <10khtpr$1fst$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    Q: Did the original iOS 10.2.1 release notes disclose performance throttling.
    A: ?

    Q: Or, only after the controversy erupted, did Apple update the online version of those notes to include the fact that the release was throttled? A: ?

    Q: Only after that, did Apple then communicate publicly as if the update had always been described that way?
    A: ?

    Jan 2017: Released with notes: "bug fixes and improves the security of your iPhone or iPad."

    Feb 2017: Updated to include: "improves power management during peak workloads
    to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

    Dec 2017: Reddit user and Geekbench proved that the software was intentionally
    slowing down older iPhones.

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