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  • Re: Why is Apple choosing Google's Gemini to power Siri?

    From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Jan 15 16:08:42 2026
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    Tom Elam wrote:
    On 1/12/2026 6:22 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Q: Why is Apple choosing Google's Gemini to power Siri?
    A: ?

    *Apple teams up with Google Gemini for AI-powered Siri*
    <https://lite.cnn.com/2026/01/12/tech/apple-google-gemini-siri>

    Pretty simple really. Why has Apple not invested cloud computing while Microsoft and Amazon have made cloud a successful core piece of their business? Why use third party search engines?

    Apple has limited resources. Not so much financial, but technical. Developing a search or AI engine takes years and different skills than customer support, hardware, apps and operating systems that are Apple's focus. AI involves massive hardware and human capital investments. Plus,
    we do not even know yet if those investments will every meet the hype.
    My stock portfolio sure hope AI succeeds!

    Why Gemini? Based on what I have read it's a good fit and builds on the existing Google relationship. Privacy concerns may be an issue.

    Siri was OK start in its day. But Siri failed to keep up with the competition and has fallen way behind now. That is, except in Siri's
    Apple hardware-specific capabilities baked into the Apple OS. Even that
    is far from perfect.

    Only time will tell if it was a good decision or not.


    Hi Tom Elam,

    Thank you for taking the time to lay out your reasoning. I appreciate the technical perspective you add to the discussion since we're all stating
    what we think might have been the reason Apple chose Gemini over others.

    Your point about Apple not having the same cloud or AI infrastructure as Microsoft or Google has makes sense, and it helps explain why partnering
    with an existing large-scale model like Gemini might make sense to Apple.

    I also agree that Siri's hardware-specific strengths are different from the general-purpose AI capabilities that require massive compute resources.

    Yet, Google has their flaws, even as Gemini may be a good LLM/AI choice. Particularly around Google's own interpretation of what privacy means.

    Hence, it will be interesting to see how Apple balances privacy,
    integration, and dependence on Google going forward with Gemini.

    Thanks again for your thoughtful explanation, which helps all of us better understand why Apple makes the choices for iOS that Apple makes.
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Jan 16 07:50:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 1/15/2026 12:51 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-15 08:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 1/12/2026 6:22 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Q: Why is Apple choosing Google's Gemini to power Siri?
    A: ?

      *Apple teams up with Google Gemini for AI-powered Siri*
      <https://lite.cnn.com/2026/01/12/tech/apple-google-gemini-siri>

    Pretty simple really. Why has Apple not invested cloud computing while
    Microsoft and Amazon have made cloud a successful core piece of their
    business? Why use third party search engines?

    And how in the world do you know what Apple has invested in, Liarboy?



    Just look at the products those investments have produced. Well, there
    was that whole Apple Auto thing that failed. Miserably. Maybe Siri is
    like that too? Which is why Apple is going to partner with Google. Not
    all investments pay off.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Jan 16 15:52:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-01-16 04:50, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 1/15/2026 12:51 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-01-15 08:21, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 1/12/2026 6:22 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Q: Why is Apple choosing Google's Gemini to power Siri?
    A: ?

      *Apple teams up with Google Gemini for AI-powered Siri*
      <https://lite.cnn.com/2026/01/12/tech/apple-google-gemini-siri>

    Pretty simple really. Why has Apple not invested cloud computing
    while Microsoft and Amazon have made cloud a successful core piece of
    their business? Why use third party search engines?

    And how in the world do you know what Apple has invested in, Liarboy?



    Just look at the products those investments have produced.

    Nope. That doesn't work. R&D and investment happen long before products actually emerge.

    There is literally no difference between what you're presuming right
    now, than presuming before the emergence of the Apple Silicon processors
    that they were therefore not investing in their technology.

    Well, there
    was that whole Apple Auto thing that failed. Miserably. Maybe Siri is
    like that too? Which is why Apple is going to partner with Google. Not
    all investments pay off.

    You don't even see the contradiction, do you?

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