You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
John Hill wrote on Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:01:46 -0000 (UTC) :
You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
You are correct that the Apple trolls like Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, Hemidactylus, nospam, Lewis, et al., will always defend Apple to the death, no matter the truth - because... hmmm.. Why?
They'll always make inane excuses for why Apple has more zero-day exploits, or why Apple didn't have call recording, or why Apple doesn't allow interoperability, or why Apple products don't have basic hardware, or why Apple always is chintzy on basics such as RAM & battery capacity, etc.
Why do the Apple trolls inundate this newsgroup with those inane apologies?
I know why.
Do you?
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But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone- owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t? ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
On 02.11.24 18:37, sms wrote:
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
(Crap snipped)
You are a speculating idiot and Troll not delivering the smallest piece
of evidence for anything.
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
1. Android device makers tend to introduce new features at a more rapid
pace than Apple does for the iPhone. Apple meters out new features
slowly to encourage updates but many of those features are not
sufficiently attractive to warrant an upgrade.
2. Apple removes features from their devices causing many iPhone owners
to delay upgrades because they don't want to lose features.
a)What are the best selling iPhones of all time? The 6/6+ and
6s/6s+, the last two models that had a headphone jack.
b) A lot of U.S. iPhone users have stuck with the 13/13 Pro because they don't want to lose the physical SIM card slot.
3. iPhones are more expensive than comparable Android phones so the
Android owner is more willing to spend the money on an upgrade.
4. Battery replacement on iPhones is relatively inexpensive and widely available and you get a recently manufactured battery, not NOS (new old stock) that has deteriorated.
5. iPhone users care less about features like higher-quality music
playback while Android users want the latest aptX or LDAC codec. Since Airpods don't support these codec anyway, there's no reason to worry
about the phone having that codec.
6. Carriers offer better upgrade deals on Android devices than iOS
devices. You can often get a "free" Android phone, even on prepaid
carriers, while iPhones have subsidy but much lower.
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it back to me in 2 hours.
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
No questions asked.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!).
b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it
back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that
I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:14:10 -0000 (UTC), Andrews wrote:
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid.
You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!). >> b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the
"fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair >> complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the >> Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one
with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it >>> back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone.
That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA >> alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free
Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll >> pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the
iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!),
Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an
"Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the >> "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that >> I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully
lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
But how much does that Apple Care added warranty cost anyways?
For those too behind the times to use Bluetooth headphones there are these Lightning adaptors that provide ancient headphone jack capacity. With Bluetooth I can walk around the house untethered to my phone. Progress.2. Apple removes features from their devices causing many iPhone owners >>> to delay upgrades because they don't want to lose features.
a)What are the best selling iPhones of all time? The 6/6+ and
6s/6s+, the last two models that had a headphone jack.
The SE (1st gen) was the last model launched with a headphone jack. Plus
was significantly cheaper than either the 6 or 6s. So why didn't it have
the highest sales figures?
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!).
b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it
back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that
I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
Just a few replies.
I dropped my iPad 9 and cracked the screen. AppleCare+ replaced the iPad.
The Genius Bar people are incredibly helpful. I took an AirTag in that
had stopped working. The tech checked it and recommended a different
battery brand. That fixed it.
I bought a M1 Macbook and it bricked after 14 days. The Genius Bar tech offered to get it fixed but I asked for and received a full refund.
As for software and hardware support Apple far surpasses Android.
But you don't have to believe me.
https://news.techable.com/apples-software-support-for-iphones-how-long/ "Apple typically provides iOS updates for iPhones for about six to eight years. For example, the iPhone 15 series, released in September 2023, is expected to receive updates until 2031. Similarly, the iPhone 14 series, launched in 2022, will be supported until 2029. Older models like the
iPhone 8 and iPhone X, released in 2017, have recently reached the end
of their update cycle as of 2023.
Apple's support isn't limited to just software updates. The company also offers hardware support for about five to seven years after the last
sale date of the product. This means users can get their devices
serviced or repaired at Apple Stores and authorized service providers
during this period. This dual support system ensures that iPhones remain functional and secure long after their initial release'.
Most Android manufacturers, including major brands like Samsung and
Google, typically offer around three to four years of updates.
For
instance, Google's Pixel phones have started to offer five years of
updates, but this still falls short of Apple's standard. OnePlus offers three years of major updates and four years of security updates, while Motorola and Sony lag behind with even shorter support periods''." https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/iphone-vs-android
"Apple has a consistent history of keeping older iPhone models secure against common security threats."
"Android manufacturers have a comparatively poor history of keeping
their phones supported with software and security updates."
"Apple keeps more generations of iPhones supported with security updates than any Android phone maker we know about."
But facts will never convince you.
In five years I'm on my third pair of BT earpods. In the flip side, I still >> have wired headphones that are decades old which work perfectly well.I have higher quality headphones not "pods". And they hold a charge for
Progress?
quite a time. Not being tethered is progress as is not using an auxillary cable in my car. Bluetooth has been reliable for me and sound quality ok. Again one can use an adaptor cable for the jack into headphones or aux in a car or into RCA adaptors for a home entertainment center. I've done the latter, playing my phone through a cable into a home system. The loss of a headphone specific hole in the phone is a non-issue seized upon by local miscreants for their trolling agenda.
John Hill wrote on Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:01:46 -0000 (UTC) :
You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
You are correct that the Apple trolls like Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, Hemidactylus, nospam, Lewis, et al., will always defend Apple to the death, no matter the truth - because... hmmm.. Why?
They'll always make inane excuses for why Apple has more zero-day exploits, or why Apple didn't have call recording, or why Apple doesn't allow interoperability, or why Apple products don't have basic hardware, or why Apple always is chintzy on basics such as RAM & battery capacity, etc.
Why do the Apple trolls inundate this newsgroup with those inane apologies?
I know why.
Do you?
Linux for better or worse doesn't need people bashing other OS's to support it,
they can write their own damn code to support it or STFU.
Windows is excrement, always has been, always will be.
*Hemidactylus* wrote on Sun, 03 Nov 2024 23:29:29 +0000 :
For those too behind the times to use Bluetooth headphones there are these >> Lightning adaptors that provide ancient headphone jack capacity. With2. Apple removes features from their devices causing many iPhone owners >>>> to delay upgrades because they don't want to lose features.
a)What are the best selling iPhones of all time? The 6/6+ and
6s/6s+, the last two models that had a headphone jack.
The SE (1st gen) was the last model launched with a headphone jack. Plus >>> was significantly cheaper than either the 6 or 6s. So why didn't it have >>> the highest sales figures?
Bluetooth I can walk around the house untethered to my phone. Progress.
For those who never took a marketing class in college, Apple strategically removes functionality from its devices so that people have to buy it back.
*Hemidactylus* wrote on Mon, 04 Nov 2024 11:10:22 +0000 :
In five years I'm on my third pair of BT earpods. In the flip side, I still >>> have wired headphones that are decades old which work perfectly well.I have higher quality headphones not "pods". And they hold a charge for
Progress?
quite a time. Not being tethered is progress as is not using an auxillary
cable in my car. Bluetooth has been reliable for me and sound quality ok.
Again one can use an adaptor cable for the jack into headphones or aux in a >> car or into RCA adaptors for a home entertainment center. I've done the
latter, playing my phone through a cable into a home system. The loss of a >> headphone specific hole in the phone is a non-issue seized upon by local
miscreants for their trolling agenda.
It's Apple's fundamentally basic marketing strategy to limit users' choice. By restricting users' choices, Apple ends up making *lots of money*.
Chris is correct.
He has the choice of either bluetooth or wired.
You do not.
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!).
b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it
back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that
I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
Given you're the one who doesn't even understand his own quotes. It's clear >> who's the troll.The troll has tiny man ego syndrome. Note how he feigns greater knowledge
in any endeavor anyone else brings up whether mobile computing, BMWs or immunology. For the last one knowing about SHM is key.
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
In the case of the beemer
badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:05:28 -0000 (UTC) :
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
I'm of German descent and I've always known what a bimmer & beemer are, badgolferman - but - I've owned both bimmers and beemers also.
If I own something, I then learn what I need to learn to know everything I want to know about it. In the case of the beemer, my 525i happens to have a CCV valve, which happens to clog up, which happens to make it fail
California emissions - which means - I have to learn how to replace it.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" soArlen is a pseudointellectual hack who introduces irrelevant asides into a discussion to parade why he thinks he's more knowledgable than his many targets. Why else would anyone arbitrarily introduce Einstein into a discussion besides an exercise in pseudointellectual pretense? Only wackaloons do that.
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
Yet these Apple trolls, who, of course, don't know BMW terms & yet
they claim to own BMWs, call anyone who knows anything, a >"pseudointellectual".
Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually
refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms
"ride" & "drive".
If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.
*Hemidactylus* wrote on Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:51:27 +0000 :
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" soArlen is a pseudointellectual hack who introduces irrelevant asides into a >> discussion to parade why he thinks he's more knowledgable than his many
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
targets. Why else would anyone arbitrarily introduce Einstein into a
discussion besides an exercise in pseudointellectual pretense? Only
wackaloons do that.
What's interesting is the Apple trolls like Hemidactylus, who know nothing about anything, instantly assume that terms are for "pseudointellectuals".
Notice that normal people (like badgolferman) simply ask why all BMW aficionados use these specific terms, while the hoi polloi don't know them.
Yet these Apple trolls, who, of course, don't know BMW terms & yet they
claim to own BMWs, call anyone who knows anything, a "pseudointellectual".
Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually refer to
as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms "ride" & "drive".
If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.
This is relevant because all th Apple trolls are posers.
They're all on Mount Stupid to the left of the 1st Dunning-Kruger quadrile.
Which is why it was important to destroy the poser who claimed to be a physicist and yet he didn't even realize gravity is not a force.
Likewise with Alan Baker who claims to "teach racing" and yet Alan has no idea whatsoever of what a catenary is - which is a common term for curves.
Andrews wrote:
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
You will *never forget* a CCV replacement badgolferman. Never.
It's not possible to forget because you have to rip the engine bay
apart.
When you replace the cooling system, you will *never forget* that the
Behr expansion tank is just about as complicated as they could have
made it.
When you replace the thermostat & waterpump, you will *never forget*
the special 32mm tools you need just to spin off the radiator fan
which has to be removed before you can get the serpentine belt off.
To get the serpentine belt off, you will *never forget* how strongly
and strangely designed the belt tensioners are that you have to also
deal with.
When you fail emissions again, you have to deal with the DISA valve,
which is an expensive plastic piece of garbage that is on the intake >manifold.
When you adjust your (admittedly rather comfortable leather) driver
seat, you will *never forget* the adjusting cable slips out of its
clasp because eventually they all get "seat twist" which you then
have to deal with.
On 2024-11-09 07:05, badgolferman wrote:[snip troll]
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
I'll explain:
Arlen tried to make a meal out of the fact that I own a BMW (2012 135i M Sport Edition in Lemans Blue to be precise) and didn't know
that--according to him--one of those terms is use to refer to BMW motorcycles and the other for BMW cars.
And from that he tried to claim that:
1. I couldn't possibly own one.
2. That I could possibly be a racing driver and road racing instructor.
:-)
Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually
refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms
"ride" & "drive".
Honda doesn't, do they?
<https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>
RoadRacer wrote:
Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually
refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms
"ride" & "drive".
Honda doesn't, do they?
<https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>
Umm...
https://ibb.co/9V0zXVj
https://ibb.co/XLSFWBh
https://ibb.co/NxDGSht
https://ibb.co/sRxQXBf
On 2024-11-09 10:42, badgolferman wrote:
RoadRacer wrote:
Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't
usually refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows
the terms "ride" & "drive".
Honda doesn't, do they?
<https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>
Umm...
https://ibb.co/9V0zXVj
https://ibb.co/XLSFWBh
https://ibb.co/NxDGSht
https://ibb.co/sRxQXBf
Yes.
That was MY POINT.
Learn to read for comprehension.
If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings >>because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.
Speaking of Goldwings, when I first got mine I noticed on various
websites the spelling alternated between Goldwing, Gold Wing, and
GL1800. Of course GL1800 is the official model of the motorcycle, and
mine is a 2002 GL1800A which denotes one with ABS.
I asked the guy who sold it to me whether it was a Goldwing or Gold
Wing and he told me Goldwing. He referred me to the manual and the
trim pieces on the bike which say Goldwing. I have seen the Honda
website which says Gold Wing, but frankly I think that was designed or edited by someone who doesn't know the history of the motorcycle. I
don't really know, other than what the LCD display, manual and placard
on my bike say -- Goldwing.
If only they had built
in an access panel for the air filter...
badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:25:11 -0000 (UTC) :
If only they had built
in an access panel for the air filter...
Same with the CCV on my 525i which is merely a PCV but with a far more complex design such that BMW decided to call it, instead, a CCV.
It's horribly complicated.
And as a result, it *always* eats itself up in just a few years.
So *everyone* with that bimmer model has to replace it.
Like your Gold%20Wing/Gold-Wing/Goldwing/etc. air filter joke, it's as if
BMW started with a CCV and then built the entire engine around that one emissions component.
It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't fail emissions - but it often does.
So everyone who knows anything about that bimmer model is well acquainted with the CCV (among other horridly designed engine components).
If they claim to be knowledgeable in that model, and if they don't know
about the CCV, then it's clear that they're just posers playing games.
Like Alan Baker who never knew what a catenary was until I explained it to him in terms of sweeping around curves at constant speeds.
Alan Baker was so stupid, even after he looked it up - he thought it was about bridges - which proves yet again my point these Apple trolls are incredibly uneducated, and hence ignorant of everything - especially Apple products.
Even when told a catenary had to do with taking curves at speed, these
Apple trolls insisted a catenary has only to do with suspension bridges.
That's how stupid these Apple trolls truly are.
They read Wikipedia, which I'm sure mentions suspension bridges, and they don't have the education to flip the terms 90 degrees to sweeping out
curves at constant speed.
Andrews wrote:
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
Andrews wrote:
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.
On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:
On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
Andrews wrote:
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.
Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
"Hey I finished painting, but you don't have a "porch"...I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced >>> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.
It's likely mostly Americans who can't pronounce it properly. They have enough trouble with proper English, let alone any other language. :-p
On 2024-11-11 13:12, Your Name wrote:
On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:
On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
Andrews wrote:
I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a
bimmer and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those
two vehicles.
I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer"
so maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW?
It's not like that's a long acronym.
Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
And normal people don't decide that people can't own a BMW...
...based on whether or not they know the slang terminology.
:-)
Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he dislikes..
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :
Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normalThe point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.
people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
dislikes..
Your Name wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:12:52 +1300 :I only "claim" it, because:
Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
Just like nobody who owns a motorcycle "drives" it, anyone calling their
car a "beamer" is instantly recognizable as a poser who knows nothing.
Which was my point that Alan G. Baker claimed to own a bimmer and to teach racing and yet he doesn't know the very first thing about either topic.
On 2024-11-11 18:46, Andrews wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :
Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
dislikes..
The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls
don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.
And my point is that you know nothing about racing, because not a SINGLE experienced racing driver I've ever known has ever mentioned the
catenary curve as being in any way related to the fastest line through a corner.
On 11/11/24 10:01 PM, RoadRacer wrote:
On 2024-11-11 18:46, Andrews wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :
Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he >>>> dislikes..
Yup. I've seen similar 'gotcha' attempts by gun nutz over terminology too.
Of course they don't see outside of their little niche that those with equally deep but broader experience means that one's trivial knowledge includes different niche definitions of the same term. In such
situations, the solution is to ignore the niche pedantry attempts.
He finally found his one reference...The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls >>> don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.
And my point is that you know nothing about racing, because not a
SINGLE experienced racing driver I've ever known has ever mentioned
the catenary curve as being in any way related to the fastest line
through a corner.
For motorsports, I've watched at least hundreds of races, and during all those decades, I've never heard any NASCAR/Indy/F1/etc race announcers
ever mention the word "catenary" ...
... let alone used it in the alleged context herein of guidance for optimizing the line in a corner to minimize peak cornering forces.
But I'm sure that Arlen can provide multiple youtube clips of TV
broadcasts, with timestamps which show that I'm not misremembering.
I've never heard any NASCAR/Indy/F1/etc race announcers> ever mention the word "catenary" ...
... let alone used it in the alleged context herein of guidance for optimizing the line in a corner to minimize peak cornering forces.
-hh wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:15:44 -0500 :
I've never heard any NASCAR/Indy/F1/etc race announcers> ever mention the word "catenary" ...
... let alone used it in the alleged context herein of guidance for
optimizing the line in a corner to minimize peak cornering forces.
Had any of you uneducated Apple trolls taken even a single class in
Physics, you'd know centripedal/centrifugal forces exist in the X plane.
On 2024-11-12 20:57, Andrews wrote:
-hh wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:15:44 -0500 :
I've never heard any NASCAR/Indy/F1/etc race announcers> ever mention
the word "catenary" ...
... let alone used it in the alleged context herein of guidance for
optimizing the line in a corner to minimize peak cornering forces.
Had any of you uneducated Apple trolls taken even a single class in
Physics, you'd know centripedal/centrifugal forces exist in the X plane.
Everyone knows that, doofus.
And it's "centripetal" force. With a "T".
And why the sudden change to centripetal forces, when his claims
have used catenary?
-hh wrote on Wed, 13 Nov 2024 08:10:15 -0500 :
And why the sudden change to centripetal forces, when his claims
have used catenary?
A catenary can be in any direction, horizontal or vertical, "hh".
It's not the *direction* that defines the catenary but the uniformity of force over length - which - you'd have known if you had ever taken physics.
My point is that the Apple trolls know nothing about anything, where one of the Apple trolls claims to "teach racing" yet he knows nothing of physics.
They claim to get paid to help people with computers and yet they insist
for weeks that the nntp header is impossible to change on your own.
Who is that stupid?
They claim to know bimmers and yet they don't even know what they're
called, always my point being they are all on top of Mount Stupid.
-hh wrote on Wed, 13 Nov 2024 08:10:15 -0500 :
And why the sudden change to centripetal forces, when his claims
have used catenary?
A catenary can be in any direction, horizontal or vertical, "hh".
It's not the *direction* that defines the catenary but the uniformity of force over length - which - you'd have known if you had ever taken physics.
My point is that the Apple trolls know nothing about anything, where one of the Apple trolls claims to "teach racing" yet he knows nothing of physics.
[more reams of butthurt whining ... snipped]
On 11/13/24 4:15 PM, Andrews wrote:
-hh wrote on Wed, 13 Nov 2024 08:10:15 -0500 :
And why the sudden change to centripetal forces, when his claims
have used catenary?
A catenary can be in any direction, horizontal or vertical, "hh".
Pedantically, sure ...
It's not the *direction* that defines the catenary but the uniformity of
force over length - which - you'd have known if you had ever taken
physics.
...but pragmatically, the reason why catenary doesn't apply to laeral non-gravitational based forces is because it is difficult for them to be sufficiently homogeneous: this theoretical doesn'tpragmatically occur in reality.
Case in point, if this factor really was as significant as you're trying
to imply that it is, then the real world ramifications are that during races, there would *never* able to be any passing in corners.
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