• What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g., old HDDs) that you want to get rid of?

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Jan 21 16:17:42 2024
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    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Jan 21 11:47:53 2024
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Drill out the screws holding the plate onto the case (although I do have
    small Torx screwdrivers that will also work). Same for the screws
    holding the platters onto the spindle. Use a drill-mounted wire brush
    to burnish off the platter surfaces. Of course, just bending the
    platters make they useless. I'm not so paranoid that I'm worried some
    trash picker is going to pay for restoring data off the bent platters.
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  • From Marco Moock@mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Jan 21 19:55:58 2024
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    Am 21.01.2024 um 16:17:42 Uhr schrieb Ant:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives
    (e.g., old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically
    destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash?

    If they are broken, they are useless, so I can destroy them with a
    hammer.

    If the drive still spins, putting a cent between the platters and
    switching it on is rather funny.

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  • From Char Jackson@none@none.invalid to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Jan 21 14:28:47 2024
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    On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:17:42 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at >home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    I open them up, scavenge the magnets, and trash the rest.

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  • From Joe Pfeiffer@pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Jan 21 20:12:26 2024
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    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Sadly, I've got a stack of drives I know I need to destroy...
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Tue Jan 23 15:32:09 2024
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    On 1/21/2024 10:17 AM, Ant wrote:
    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Screwdriver through the air vent, scratch the disks.

    Lynn

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  • From Char Jackson@none@none.invalid to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Tue Jan 23 17:23:16 2024
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    On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:32:09 -0600, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 1/21/2024 10:17 AM, Ant wrote:
    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Screwdriver through the air vent, scratch the disks.

    Fine for the topmost surface of the topmost platter. What about the rest? :)

    I don't really think it's a problem, but just saying.

    That reminds me that the new Seagate 30TB drive is made up of ten 3TB platters. I didn't think they could fit 10 platters into that form factor.

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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Tue Jan 23 20:30:17 2024
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    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Ant wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Screwdriver through the air vent, scratch the disks.

    Never thought I'd have the strength to push a screwdriver, or even a
    small awl, through the cinter filter in the pressure equalization port.
    A drill and bit might work.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 16:49:23 2024
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    On 2024-01-21, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There's a local non-profit company here that takes hard drives and
    destroys them for you. If they are operational, they securely sanitize
    them, overwriting all data multiple times and then repurpose them for
    free or low cost to the community. If not, they physically destroy
    (shred) and recycle them.
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 11:53:45 2024
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    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    There's a local non-profit company here that takes hard drives and
    destroys them for you. If they are operational, they securely sanitize
    them, overwriting all data multiple times and then repurpose them for
    free or low cost to the community. If not, they physically destroy
    (shred) and recycle them.

    Some cities have shredding events, and include drives (HDD, SSD, USB).
    These are events, so you have to wait until the next one. Considering
    how easy HDDs can be dismantled, I wouldn't bother waiting. Plus, as
    Char mentions, you get a plus on the strong magnets inside. Nice to
    have something than nothing. Plus the platters can be used as shiny
    coasters.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 18:30:54 2024
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    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives
    (e.g., old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically
    destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place
    that have drive shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    There's a local non-profit company here that takes hard drives and
    destroys them for you. If they are operational, they securely
    sanitize them, overwriting all data multiple times and then repurpose
    them for free or low cost to the community. If not, they physically
    destroy (shred) and recycle them.

    Some cities have shredding events, and include drives (HDD, SSD, USB).
    These are events, so you have to wait until the next one.

    Luckily, this organization lets you drop off items whenever you want.

    Considering how easy HDDs can be dismantled, I wouldn't bother
    waiting.

    It does take time away from doing other things though, so for me
    dropping off a bunch of drives every once in a while is more convenient.

    Plus, as Char mentions, you get a plus on the strong magnets inside.
    Nice to have something than nothing. Plus the platters can be used as
    shiny coasters.

    I've been using and discarding hard drives for far too many years for
    that to be attractive. I already have plenty of fridge magnets, and
    would need yet another a box just to keep all of them in, and I'm always
    trying to downsize as much as I can anyway. 🤣
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 20:39:56 2024
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    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives
    (e.g., old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically
    destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place
    that have drive shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    There's a local non-profit company here that takes hard drives and
    destroys them for you. If they are operational, they securely
    sanitize them, overwriting all data multiple times and then repurpose
    them for free or low cost to the community. If not, they physically
    destroy (shred) and recycle them.

    Some cities have shredding events, and include drives (HDD, SSD, USB). These are events, so you have to wait until the next one.

    Luckily, this organization lets you drop off items whenever you want.

    Considering how easy HDDs can be dismantled, I wouldn't bother
    waiting.

    It does take time away from doing other things though, so for me
    dropping off a bunch of drives every once in a while is more convenient.

    For me, I can't due to my disabilities. I don't mind paying a little to
    shred them. Some places are crazy expensive like $25 per drive.
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 15:14:24 2024
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    On 1/23/2024 8:30 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Ant wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g., >>> old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at >>> home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Screwdriver through the air vent, scratch the disks.

    Never thought I'd have the strength to push a screwdriver, or even a
    small awl, through the cinter filter in the pressure equalization port.
    A drill and bit might work.

    A hammer works just fine. The screwdriver distributes platter
    scratchings all over the other platters.

    Lynn

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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 16:11:55 2024
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives
    (e.g., old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically
    destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place
    that have drive shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    There's a local non-profit company here that takes hard drives and
    destroys them for you. If they are operational, they securely
    sanitize them, overwriting all data multiple times and then repurpose
    them for free or low cost to the community. If not, they physically
    destroy (shred) and recycle them.

    Some cities have shredding events, and include drives (HDD, SSD, USB).
    These are events, so you have to wait until the next one.

    Luckily, this organization lets you drop off items whenever you want.

    Considering how easy HDDs can be dismantled, I wouldn't bother
    waiting.

    It does take time away from doing other things though, so for me
    dropping off a bunch of drives every once in a while is more convenient.

    For me, I can't due to my disabilities. I don't mind paying a little to shred them. Some places are crazy expensive like $25 per drive.

    Are these non-functional drives, so you cannot run wiping tools on them?

    Over 40 years of using PCs, I maybe have had 2 non-functional units.
    Typically they get replaced with bigger or faster drives, but they are
    still functional. My workplace would have a lot more dead units that
    cannot be erased, but then having them shredded would be part of their operating costs.

    Jolly doesn't mention this "company" that will shred drives for free in
    order to see if there are other branches that'll do the same work, or if
    they accept mail-ins (so the cost to you is the shipping cost). An unindentified "company" is of no use to anyone except Jolly.

    https://www.recordnations.com/hard-drive-shredding/

    That's one of the places I found in an online search for doing drive destruction. Looks like they are an overseer for many participating
    providers. They get a quote from a participant, and you can determine
    if the cost is okay, including how to get it to them. You can stockpile
    your dead drives, and then submit them at once to see if a bulk order is cheaper per drive.

    If you can use a torx screwdriver (it'll be a small one) or a drill with
    bit, you should be able to disassemble your drives to destroy them.
    Hell, you don't even need to take the case apart. Use a 1/4" drill bit
    to drill several places through the case. That level of destruction
    will probably even deter the NSA from bothering to reap anything off the damaged platters. A sledgehammer, if you can wield one, is sufficient
    for anyone picking through the piles at the dump site. If you have a
    strong large vise, crush the drive. Use a pneumatic nail gun, or a .22
    caliber powder actuated nail tool. Or a hammer and some very strong
    nails that are unlikely to bend. A sawsall with a metal cutting blade.
    An angle grinder. A hydraulic press, like using a floor jack with drive
    atop to jack up your car (pick a lift spot on the car with small surface
    area, like a tow hook). Use a large strong vise with long handles to
    give you leverage.

    If you're an old-timer doing TV repair, or you wanted to wipe your old
    VHS or cassette tapes, you might have a degausser. You'll probably
    still have to remove the top plate off the drive enclosure to ensure the magnetic flux penetrates through the platters.

    With your disabilities, we don't know what tools you can handle. Maybe
    not even a drill and bit, or screwdrivers, and why you need someone else
    to destroy the drive. You could do an online search on "hard drive destruction" to see what someone charges in your area, or farther away
    where you pay for shipping.

    Just unscrew or pry off the PCB attached to the HDD. A hacker would
    need to find a replacement for that brand and model to salvage for use
    with your HDD, but then the bad sector map wouldn't match. There are
    shops that will find and test a replacement PCB, but they cost money.
    How is your data worth to someone else? Programs can be obtained
    anywhere, and they're not unique to you, so it's your data you need to
    protect. If that data is really that sensitive and not obtainable
    elsewhere (your file drawer, other paperwork, your postal mail), you
    might consider to start using encrypted containers (e.g., TrueCrypt) or
    use Bitlocker (or other whole-disk/partition encryption, again Truecrypt
    is an alternative). Secure before rather than after.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 23:58:34 2024
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    On 2024-01-24, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives
    (e.g., old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically
    destroy them at home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place
    that have drive shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    There's a local non-profit company here that takes hard drives and
    destroys them for you. If they are operational, they securely
    sanitize them, overwriting all data multiple times and then repurpose
    them for free or low cost to the community. If not, they physically
    destroy (shred) and recycle them.

    Some cities have shredding events, and include drives (HDD, SSD, USB).
    These are events, so you have to wait until the next one.

    Luckily, this organization lets you drop off items whenever you want.

    Considering how easy HDDs can be dismantled, I wouldn't bother
    waiting.

    It does take time away from doing other things though, so for me
    dropping off a bunch of drives every once in a while is more convenient.

    For me, I can't due to my disabilities. I don't mind paying a little to shred them. Some places are crazy expensive like $25 per drive.

    If I were in that situation, I'd just use a screwdriver to remove the
    platters and bend and/or sand them with sandpaper.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Thu Jan 25 00:05:06 2024
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    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jolly doesn't mention this "company" that will shred drives for free
    in order to see if there are other branches that'll do the same work,
    or if they accept mail-ins (so the cost to you is the shipping cost).

    That's because they are a small, local company that serves my local
    community. They don't take donations via mail, so you'll have to find
    your own. Sorry.

    An unindentified "company" is of no use to anyone except Jolly.

    Not only did I not claim otherwise, but you're wrong in that the idea
    that such organizations exist might just clue someone in to the
    possibility that they can find one that is local to them. But by all
    means, do cry harder. Your salty tears are somewhat nourishing, if not entertaining. 🤣

    https://www.recordnations.com/hard-drive-shredding/

    That's one of the places I found in an online search

    Well, look at that. It was helpful after all. 🙂
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 18:33:51 2024
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    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jolly doesn't mention this "company" that will shred drives for free
    in order to see if there are other branches that'll do the same work,
    or if they accept mail-ins (so the cost to you is the shipping cost).

    That's because they are a small, local company that serves my local community. They don't take donations via mail, so you'll have to find
    your own. Sorry.

    That's what I did to find my city has shredding events, and includes
    hard drives. They're free, but they occur only on a few days during the
    year.

    An unindentified "company" is of no use to anyone except Jolly.

    Not only did I not claim otherwise, but you're wrong in that the idea
    that such organizations exist might just clue someone in to the
    possibility that they can find one that is local to them. But by all
    means, do cry harder. Your salty tears are somewhat nourishing, if not entertaining. 🤣

    You didn't identify. So no one but you would know they don't have
    branches elsewhere, or they don't accept mail-ins. I specifically
    prodded you to see if your "company" was usable to the OP, or just a
    diary entry of yours here.

    https://www.recordnations.com/hard-drive-shredding/

    That's one of the places I found in an online search

    Well, look at that. It was helpful after all. 🙂

    No, *I* was helpful, not you. You don't get to take credit for effort
    by others. Somehow I think you're still living with your parents
    considering your attitude.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Thu Jan 25 01:51:26 2024
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    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    ...
    If I were in that situation, I'd just use a screwdriver to remove the platters and bend and/or sand them with sandpaper.

    I'd have to find someone to open up the drive then. It is easier just to
    throw the drive into a shredder. Ha, I was pondering in buying a drive shredder. Yikes, those prices.
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Wed Jan 24 23:35:56 2024
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    I'd have to find someone to open up the drive then. It is easier just to throw the drive into a shredder. Ha, I was pondering in buying a drive shredder. Yikes, those prices.

    Yep, $6K, $25K, $35K. They are very pricey. Pricing reflects low,
    medium, and high volume units. They have to be well built to survive
    shredding thousands of drives; else, no one would buy them if they died quickly. They're meant for purchase by professional and commercial
    shredding services. It would take you shredding 300 to 1800 drives to
    recoup the cost of a shredder. If you had that many, you're something
    very wrong and very cost ineffective regarding hard drives. So, you use someone else's shredder that charges by drive.

    It's like company jets. Very rarely does a company own its own jet. It
    leases a jet along with several other companies leasing the same jet.
    The one owning the jet uses all those leases to pay for the jet. You
    probably don't want to buy a bobcat to dig a ditch around your house to
    put in French drains. You rent one. However, I don't recall seeing
    drive shredders at equipment rental shops. A lot of tool don't take
    much expertise, but I suspect a drive shredder would, plus there are
    inherent dangers in using one by the untrained.

    Have you yet contacted any pro/commercial drive shredders to see what
    prices they quote? I've seen prices mentioned around $20 to $40 per
    drive. If they're not local, you'll have to mail it to them.

    If you are averse to shipping the drives to elsewhere, and doing the destruction using the aforementioned methods, there are drive crushers
    (e.g., https://purelev.com/videos.php). I was thinking of using a vice
    with long handles to give you leverage in bending the drives, but this
    one using a long handle to leverage an arm into the case to bend it.
    Drive crushers aren't super cheap ranging from $400 to $450. For that
    amount of money, I'm sure I can find a really big vice with really long
    handles to crush the drive between the jaws, or crush a small pipe into
    the middle of the drive.

    If this is still too much for you to handle, got any friends that would
    enjoy destroying drives? Give then googles (not just safety glasses), a sledgehammer, and a construction block to smash your drive. Or bribe a neighbor's kid to do it.

    There are hydraulic vises that could crush the drive. Here's how to
    make one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw_uRNQe3cs

    Yeah, right. You can buy them, but prices are high, like over $1K, and
    much higher. You won't find that at your local hardware store.

    If you, or a friend, have a heavy-duty vise attached to a heavy
    workbench, you could vise the drive, and use a large pipe wrench to bend
    the drive. Most methods would cost you more in tools than what it would
    cost to send your drive to a professional drive destruction service.

    Are you concerned about a forensic lab reading data off the undamaged
    portions of the platters? Or just anyone happening upon your undamaged
    drive who tries to repair it to make it usable to get your data off of
    it? Who is going to repair your smashed drive to get data off of it?
    And is your data really that sensitive?
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Thu Jan 25 16:34:10 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On 2024-01-25, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-01-24, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jolly doesn't mention this "company" that will shred drives for free
    in order to see if there are other branches that'll do the same
    work, or if they accept mail-ins (so the cost to you is the shipping
    cost).

    That's because they are a small, local company that serves my local
    community. They don't take donations via mail, so you'll have to find
    your own. Sorry.

    That's what I did to find my city has shredding events, and includes
    hard drives. They're free, but they occur only on a few days during
    the year.

    Somehow I think others can do that too.

    An unindentified "company" is of no use to anyone except Jolly.

    Not only did I not claim otherwise, but you're wrong in that the idea
    that such organizations exist might just clue someone in to the
    possibility that they can find one that is local to them. But by all
    means, do cry harder. Your salty tears are somewhat nourishing, if
    not entertaining. 🤣

    You didn't identify. So no one but you would know they don't have
    branches elsewhere, or they don't accept mail-ins.

    If anyone had asked, I would have gladly provided that information.
    Instead, you got a hair up your ass, and here we are.

    https://www.recordnations.com/hard-drive-shredding/

    That's one of the places I found in an online search

    Well, look at that. It was helpful after all. 🙂

    No

    Yes. Mentioning that there are local organizations that will destroy
    hard drives is all that is needed to prompt others to look for local
    companies that will do the same.

    *I* was helpful, not you.

    Sure, kiddo.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From bilsch01@usenet@writer.com to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Feb 4 06:58:10 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On 1/21/2024 8:17 AM, Ant wrote:
    Hello,

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
    Put the drive on a concrete floor and beat on it (hard) with a sledge
    hammer. It's that simple.
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.periphs.hdd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage on Sun Feb 4 10:41:18 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    bilsch01 <usenet@writer.com> wrote:

    Ant wrote:

    What do you do with your personal home dead/broken storage drives (e.g.,
    old HDDs) that you want to get rid of? Do you physically destroy them at
    home and toss the pieces into trash? Go to a place that have drive
    shredders (can't find many around my location)?

    Put the drive on a concrete floor and beat on it (hard) with a sledge hammer. It's that simple.

    The OP mentioned a disability, but not if that meant about physically destroying a drive, or driving to deliver to a shredder service. I
    would think the shredders would accept postal mail-ins, and our USPS
    will deliver priority shipping packaging for free.

    Drilling through the drive to destroy the platters was mentioned, as was
    using a torx screwdriver to remove the cover plate to have a go at the platters, or just prying the PCB off the drive. Instead, he's looking
    at how to get someone else to destroy the drive (presumably it won't
    mount in an OS where it could be thoroughly wiped using software).
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