• P70 and TI 486 CPU

    From SteffenU@steffen@udolph.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Mon Jan 6 19:12:55 2025
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    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI upgrade
    CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the following CPU: TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is the
    BGA 132 Socket variant. Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my P70 is a
    20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock speed? I am likely
    to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these
    machines.

    Cheers/2
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  • From Kevin Bowling@kevin.bowling@kev009.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Mon Jan 6 14:11:13 2025
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    On 1/6/25 11:12, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI upgrade
    CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the following CPU: TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is the
    BGA 132 Socket variant.  Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my P70 is a 20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock speed? I am likely
    to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these machines.

    Cheers/2

    I have had success with the Cyrix 40mhz 486 upgrade chip on the P70.
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  • From SteffenU@steffen@udolph.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Mon Jan 6 22:37:53 2025
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    Hi,

    great news, so I will try the TI chips, hopefully I find one of 8kb
    variant. Did you change the quartz also? This would be a bit beyond me.

    Cheers/2


    On 06.01.2025 22:11, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 1/6/25 11:12, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI upgrade
    CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the following CPU:
    TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is the
    BGA 132 Socket variant.  Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my P70 is
    a 20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock speed? I am
    likely to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these
    machines.

    Cheers/2

    I have had success with the Cyrix 40mhz 486 upgrade chip on the P70.

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  • From SteffenU@steffen@udolph.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Mon Jan 6 22:39:59 2025
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    And I noticed you have an MCA PCMCIA Board, wow, didn't know that exists.

    On 06.01.2025 22:11, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 1/6/25 11:12, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI upgrade
    CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the following CPU:
    TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is the
    BGA 132 Socket variant.  Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my P70 is
    a 20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock speed? I am
    likely to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these
    machines.

    Cheers/2

    I have had success with the Cyrix 40mhz 486 upgrade chip on the P70.

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  • From Kevin Bowling@kevin.bowling@kev009.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Tue Jan 7 00:09:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware

    On 1/6/25 14:37, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi,

    great news, so I will try the TI chips, hopefully I find one of 8kb
    variant. Did you change the quartz also? This would be a bit beyond me.

    I did not change the oscillator yet, it will run at a lower speed but
    with the new instructions and cache without doing so.

    Cheers/2


    On 06.01.2025 22:11, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 1/6/25 11:12, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI
    upgrade CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the
    following CPU:
    TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is
    the BGA 132 Socket variant.  Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my
    P70 is a 20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock speed?
    I am likely to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these
    machines.

    Cheers/2

    I have had success with the Cyrix 40mhz 486 upgrade chip on the P70.


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  • From Kevin Bowling@kevin.bowling@kev009.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Tue Jan 7 00:14:38 2025
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    On 1/7/25 00:09, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 1/6/25 14:37, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi,

    great news, so I will try the TI chips, hopefully I find one of 8kb
    variant. Did you change the quartz also? This would be a bit beyond me.

    I did not change the oscillator yet, it will run at a lower speed but
    with the new instructions and cache without doing so.

    Oh I used the Cx486DRx2 which is internally clock doubled so no
    oscillator change necessary.

    There is some generic info on this family of Cyrix chips at https://www.ardent-tool.com/CPU/Cyrix_Cx486.html

    Cheers/2


    On 06.01.2025 22:11, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 1/6/25 11:12, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI
    upgrade CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the
    following CPU:
    TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is
    the BGA 132 Socket variant.  Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my
    P70 is a 20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock
    speed? I am likely to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these
    machines.

    Cheers/2

    I have had success with the Cyrix 40mhz 486 upgrade chip on the P70.



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  • From Kevin Bowling@kevin.bowling@kev009.com to comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware on Tue Jan 7 00:35:01 2025
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    On 1/6/25 14:39, SteffenU wrote:
    And I noticed you have an MCA PCMCIA Board, wow, didn't know that exists.

    These are mostly a curiosity and the card software support is not great.
    You are effectively getting a 16-bit ISA bus out of PCMCIA so better
    off going 32-bit MCA wherever possible.

    One past curious use is PCMCIA sound cards, but a good one is now more
    rare than MCA sound cards. Note that CardBus (i.e. Creative AudigyZS)
    is 32-bit PCI-based and will not work.

    There are new recreation MCA soundcards and CF/IDE adapters (https://zzxio.com/product/mcide-cf/).


    On 06.01.2025 22:11, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 1/6/25 11:12, SteffenU wrote:
    Hi all,

    in my quest to improve my old P70, I ran across the Cyrix / TI
    upgrade CPUs. I could source one for relatively cheap, it is the
    following CPU:
    TX486DLC/E040C-GA. I am waiting for the confirmation whether it is
    the BGA 132 Socket variant.  Of course, it is a 40 MHz CPU, and my
    P70 is a 20MHz Model. Would that CPU run with the slower clock speed?
    I am likely to buy it and just try it out.

    This one would be even nicer with the 8kb Cache: Ti486 SXL-40 40MHz.
    Would that run in my 20Mhz machine?

    I am truly impressed about the vast information available for these
    machines.

    Cheers/2

    I have had success with the Cyrix 40mhz 486 upgrade chip on the P70.


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