• $80 for Grand Theft Auto 6?

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 19:28:58 2026
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    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be
    interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch



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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 18:28:21 2026
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    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the >end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be >interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true >https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch



    **-

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 18:31:48 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch


    No way. I'm the poster boy for GTA, and I plan on getting a PS6 or a PS5
    if that's all I can on Black Friday, and I'll get the nostalgia version
    of GTA 4 and the GTA 5 for the system. Then I will play these over a
    period of thirteen or fourteen. It's because I have a backlog, and it's
    just unnecessary to fork out right away for GTA 6. I'm the best there
    ever was at GTA, but I'm going right into Grand Theft Auto 4. Plus it
    will be a nostalgia on the PS 6, and I will have full control of the
    bowling game. Roman won't be able to hold a candle to my bowling scores.
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 18:34:12 2026
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    PW wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the
    end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be
    interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true
    https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch



    **-

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I don't do this very often. Sometimes when I'm at one star, I will,
    because getting that guy chasing me off my ass can be a help and I'll be
    able to evade the stars. Never above that. The most stars I ever evaded
    was 4. When I went to the safe house to save after, the game crashed.
    When I looked at the logs I saw bill wilson's name up and down my ISP
    router. I'm fairly certain I wouldn't get that many stars against me if
    bill wilson wasn't feeding my identification details into my GTA game.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 15:47:44 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow
    so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 06:57:53 2026
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    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow
    so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated
    with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different
    Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the foreseeable future?

    Because if they do that again, Rockstar will make bank because each
    player will have to buy it two or three times to play it -- that's
    already $240 per person!
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  • From rms@rmsmoo@moomoo.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 10:05:14 2026
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    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in this game.

    rms

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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 10:14:57 2026
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    rms wrote:
    Nope.  Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

      More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios,
    just makes me tired.  The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold.  No interest in this game.

    rms

    I'm totally the opposite. With the ubiquitous job offers coming up in
    the recruiting online places where the only hope for getting a job is,
    it's bleak. Most of these jobs are fake. All they are doing is gauging
    what people would bring to fantasy jobs that they don't intend to hire on.

    In the housing industry, it's inflated price after egotistical landlord.

    At the restaurants, if you're in anything nicer than a McDonald's, they
    will present you with the encouragement to tip whatever you can and have
    left in your wallet.

    Basically we're all living in inner city slavery, the whole lot of us,
    from lower class all the way to upper middle class. I can jostle my arms
    in cameraderie with the people of San Andreas and Liberty City.

    We're all slaves, all alike, while the police get in their free vehicles
    and roll all over the city causing mayhem and mischief.

    Inner city slavery, fostered by the government's blatant drug dealing.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 16:46:56 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:05:14 -0600, "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> said
    this thing:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    I'm not so put off with the gameplay and cthe ops-n-robbers setting as
    the whole satirical take on the world that Rockstar embeds into its
    games. It just feels so dated. They can't do anything half as
    ridiculous as what's actually going on in the USA now.





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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nothanks.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 18:08:09 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:57:53 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow
    so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated
    with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different >Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the >foreseeable future?

    Red Dead Redemption 2 offered some bonuses that included a special
    horse on purchases through the Rockstar store. That's one of the few
    times I broke my "Steam only" rule and took a chance. It turned out
    to be a decision that definitely was worth it, because that horse had
    a tremendous impact on my enjoyment of the game, only because in-game
    currency is important in and relatively difficult to come by early on
    in the online mode. Decent payouts for races were based on
    1st/2nd/3rd place, so winning a lot of races really helped my
    financial situation.

    It probably wouldn't matter as much if I had stuck to the SP game, but
    I only played a few hours of that versus hundreds in the outstanding
    online mode.

    Needless to say, I will be at least evaluating any specials they offer
    only through their store... cosmetic only shit I don't really care
    about, but items like weapons or cars with features that help with
    areas of struggle can make a difference.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 23:21:05 2026
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    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 00:20:10 2026
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    At Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:28:21 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    [GTA 6]

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I used to agonize about Counterstrike in the same way.

    And there was a place in Soma where I couldn't advance without
    killing someone that I didn't think needed to be killed. (That
    one, I got refunded.)

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence,
    unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    It's the same in Elite Dangerous Odyssey. I try to sneak and not
    cause any injuries -- but sometimes, a situation goes South, and
    people get hurt.

    Sure, they're shooting at you, but if the EDO version of
    Interpol is shooting at you, maybe it's time for a hasty
    retreat -- but then, you will fail the mission, mostly.

    Finally, I'll mention that some people go to anarchy stations
    and straight-up murder everybody before looting the station.
    Where's the sport in that?
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 18:21:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    vallor wrote:
    At Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:28:21 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    [GTA 6]

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I used to agonize about Counterstrike in the same way.

    And there was a place in Soma where I couldn't advance without
    killing someone that I didn't think needed to be killed. (That
    one, I got refunded.)

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence, unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    It's the same in Elite Dangerous Odyssey. I try to sneak and not
    cause any injuries -- but sometimes, a situation goes South, and
    people get hurt.

    Sure, they're shooting at you, but if the EDO version of
    Interpol is shooting at you, maybe it's time for a hasty
    retreat -- but then, you will fail the mission, mostly.

    Finally, I'll mention that some people go to anarchy stations
    and straight-up murder everybody before looting the station.
    Where's the sport in that?

    What's your Rank in that game? Surely you've achieved Dangerous by now.
    What about Deadly?
    --
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    Make our dreams come true
    And hungry eyes are passing by
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 00:35:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    At Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:21:44 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote: [regarding Elite Dangerous Odyssey]
    What's your Rank in that game? Surely you've achieved Dangerous by now.
    What about Deadly?

    Triple Elite.

    I have Trade Elite V, which I got during the Golconda gold rush.

    The advantage to having at least one Elite rank is one can go
    to the Founder's World, visiting Jameson Memorial. There, you
    can buy any module or ship, at a discount.

    Still have only moderate rank in exobiology and on-foot combat
    though...haven't worked my way to the upper ranks yet.
    --
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 00:40:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    At Thu, 25 Jun 2026 16:46:56 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:05:14 -0600, "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> said
    this thing:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    I'm not so put off with the gameplay and cthe ops-n-robbers setting as
    the whole satirical take on the world that Rockstar embeds into its
    games. It just feels so dated. They can't do anything half as
    ridiculous as what's actually going on in the USA now.

    There was a hint of the polarization with one of the FarCry's. For
    example, one of the mission givers delivers a spot-on rant while
    sitting on his porch about the "libtards". The satire was excellent.

    (I think the FarCry franchise is underrated, as well as Just Cause...)

    I have GTA V, and tended to do more siteseeing than missions. The
    on-call blimp was an excellent touch.
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nothanks.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 20:48:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:20:10 +0000, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
    wrote:

    At Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:28:21 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    [GTA 6]

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I used to agonize about Counterstrike in the same way.

    And there was a place in Soma where I couldn't advance without
    killing someone that I didn't think needed to be killed. (That
    one, I got refunded.)

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence, >unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    The whole "video games lead to real world violence" thing was always
    about as credible to me as when Ted Bundy said the existence of porn
    led him to kill dozens of women.

    That whole theoretical stance fails to acknowledge all of the people
    who have successfully existed in society without strict adherence to
    Quaker rules, and still never harmed anyone who didn't try to harm
    them first... and also managed to not bludgeon college girls and shove
    tree branches into their genitalia like Bundy's realization of his
    fantasy (which to my knowledge was never part of popular porn).

    Whenever a human identifies a behavioral scapegoat like that, the
    remedy is to rectify the behavior of said human (even if it means the
    death penalty).
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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 18:58:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:05:14 -0600, "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> wrote:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    rms

    *--

    I agree. No 'hood for me. Sort of lived in an area like that out of
    college because I couldn't afford a better place to live. Had to take
    the public bus through sections like that.

    Not interested in that culture!

    -pw
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:25:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:58:56 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    I agree. No 'hood for me. Sort of lived in an area like that out of
    college because I couldn't afford a better place to live. Had to take
    the public bus through sections like that.

    Not interested in that culture!

    -pw

    I never lived in that kind of area and I don't want to play a video
    game in that kind of environment either. GTA is a big fat NO for me.
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:28:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:20:10 +0000, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
    wrote:

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence, >unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    I'm not playing GTA because it is violent. I am not playing it because
    the gameplay and, especially, the setting do not interest me. Rockstar
    does not need my money. They will likely be getting plenty of that
    soon enough.
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:54:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> looked up from reading the entrails of the
    porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    I pretty much gave up on GTA after 3, I bought 4 but then Microsoft
    insisted it needed games for windows live login which I did not want and
    which they later closed making it impossible to install.

    I Played from the original top down ones, played the gta3 ones, vice
    city, San Andreas then basic gta3.

    Loved vice city, except for the instant death on hitting water bit.
    Playing basic gta3 last with the mime character (he never talked) was
    just a bit meh.
    San Andreas, yeah the "good guy" being a gangbanger left me cold.

    Vice City at least had good music, and that Miami Vice kind of feel.

    San Andreas and the whole gang thing with a rap soundtrack was just meh.
    At least it was moddable to add interesting cars.

    Vice City in the San Andreas engine would be cool since you could add in
    better water stuff.

    But I guess this is not what kids today want, so all we get is crap.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:24:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:21:05 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the >original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    You've been down that ant-hole for too long Ant! Come up and breath
    some fresh air! Even I tried GTA5! :-)
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 11:18:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Rin Stowleigh wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:57:53 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are >>>> you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow >>> so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated
    with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different
    Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the
    foreseeable future?

    Red Dead Redemption 2 offered some bonuses that included a special
    horse on purchases through the Rockstar store. That's one of the few
    times I broke my "Steam only" rule and took a chance. It turned out

    Why do you have a "Steam only" rule?

    Not sure if you've noticed, but some networks eliminate Steam but don't
    touch GOG for example, so it's nice to have as a backup whenever surfing anal-retentive networks, such as places where they have big heads.
    --
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 11:04:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 6/24/2026 4:28 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?


    I'll wait until it's given away. I never finished the single player of
    5, because to get much money you have to use the stock market at a
    certain point and I could never get it to work. The previous games you
    were able to accumulate enough money through races, and pickups. Even
    though the online mode isn't tied directly to the single player game, it
    feels like the idea was to make it so you have to buy money with real
    money.

    And don't get me started on the online multiplayer game which is a
    disgusting market for pay-to-win and microtransactions, which I expect
    to be even more linked to single player, and even worse.

    I at least finished GTA 4 even though I didn't like it as much as VC, or
    even 3 or SA. GTA 5 went down a not-fun route, there's barely any
    races, and no rampages (my favorite), police or firefighter missions.
    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
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    ^'
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 11:10:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 6/26/2026 8:24 AM, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:21:05 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the
    original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    You've been down that ant-hole for too long Ant! Come up and breath
    some fresh air! Even I tried GTA5! :-)

    I'd say GTA 3 Vice City. It's the best one.
    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
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    `-'\ `--.___,
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    \\
    ^'
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nothanks.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 14:20:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:18:27 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Rin Stowleigh wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:57:53 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are >>>>> you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or >>>>> freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or >>>> 5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So >>>> maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow >>>> so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I >>>> could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated
    with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different
    Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the
    foreseeable future?

    Red Dead Redemption 2 offered some bonuses that included a special
    horse on purchases through the Rockstar store. That's one of the few
    times I broke my "Steam only" rule and took a chance. It turned out

    Why do you have a "Steam only" rule?

    Because for the most part having a bunch of different game clients is
    a needless pain in the ass, my friends are on Steam and I play a lot
    of multiplayer games, I could go on, but preferences are what they are
    and not really worthwhile to debate.

    Not sure if you've noticed, but some networks eliminate Steam but don't >touch GOG for example, so it's nice to have as a backup whenever surfing >anal-retentive networks, such as places where they have big heads.

    To each their own, I only play games from my home so no worries there.
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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 12:45:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:04:12 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 4:28 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the
    end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be
    interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?


    I'll wait until it's given away. I never finished the single player of
    5, because to get much money you have to use the stock market at a
    certain point and I could never get it to work. The previous games you
    were able to accumulate enough money through races, and pickups. Even >though the online mode isn't tied directly to the single player game, it >feels like the idea was to make it so you have to buy money with real
    money.

    And don't get me started on the online multiplayer game which is a >disgusting market for pay-to-win and microtransactions, which I expect
    to be even more linked to single player, and even worse.

    I at least finished GTA 4 even though I didn't like it as much as VC, or >even 3 or SA. GTA 5 went down a not-fun route, there's barely any
    races, and no rampages (my favorite), police or firefighter missions.

    *---

    I had no idea about any of that stuff!!!! Good thing I soon lost
    interest in the last one. What a bunch of cr**!!

    Thanks!
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 16:20:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the >original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    You missed out on GTA2 and GTA:London 1969, the other 2d GTAs?

    Gouranga!

    The game lost something valuable when you could no longer run down a
    crowd of chanting Hari Krishas.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 18:18:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 09:25:08 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:58:56 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    I agree. No 'hood for me. Sort of lived in an area like that out of >>college because I couldn't afford a better place to live. Had to take
    the public bus through sections like that.

    Not interested in that culture!

    -pw

    I never lived in that kind of area and I don't want to play a video
    game in that kind of environment either. GTA is a big fat NO for me.

    *---

    We need more Mike's in the USA!
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Jun 27 04:42:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 8:24 AM, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:21:05 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the
    original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    You've been down that ant-hole for too long Ant! Come up and breath
    some fresh air! Even I tried GTA5! :-)

    I'd say GTA 3 Vice City. It's the best one.

    I'll wait for the free giveaways. /s
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jun 28 11:37:33 2026
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    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 04:42:47 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) said
    this thing:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 8:24 AM, PW wrote:


    You've been down that ant-hole for too long Ant! Come up and breath
    some fresh air! Even I tried GTA5! :-)


    I'd say GTA 3 Vice City. It's the best one.


    I'll wait for the free giveaways. /s


    A wise course. Would that I had such sagacity and patience!

    Many of the Grand Theft Auto games have, at one time or another, been
    given away for free. Given how GTA6 will likely push the online
    aspect, and how lucrative the MTX for that part of the game will be
    for Rockstar, I suspect it won't be too long (e.g., three or four
    years) before the base GTA6 games gets the free-game treatment too.

    Can't sell MTX if people don't own the game, after all.

    Let's shelve this discussion until 2030, and then ask Ant his opinion
    on the game ;-)

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jun 28 23:38:30 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 04:42:47 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) said
    this thing:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 8:24 AM, PW wrote:


    You've been down that ant-hole for too long Ant! Come up and breath
    some fresh air! Even I tried GTA5! :-)


    I'd say GTA 3 Vice City. It's the best one.


    I'll wait for the free giveaways. /s


    A wise course. Would that I had such sagacity and patience!

    Many of the Grand Theft Auto games have, at one time or another, been
    given away for free. Given how GTA6 will likely push the online
    aspect, and how lucrative the MTX for that part of the game will be
    for Rockstar, I suspect it won't be too long (e.g., three or four
    years) before the base GTA6 games gets the free-game treatment too.

    Can't sell MTX if people don't own the game, after all.

    Let's shelve this discussion until 2030, and then ask Ant his opinion
    on the game ;-)

    Assuming I am still alive. /s
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nothanks.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jun 28 20:45:39 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:21:05 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the >original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    This GTA title might actually rescue the gaming industry.

    I've linked to a specific time in this video here explaining why:

    https://youtu.be/uxBJcPqdNo8?t=1048

    But it probably won't be out for PC for maybe a year or so after the
    console releases... fine with me, let 'em work the bugs out and get
    the online version polished up.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 29 13:40:04 2026
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    Rin Stowleigh <nospam@nothanks.com> wrote at 18:20 this Friday (GMT):
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:18:27 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Rin Stowleigh wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:57:53 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are >>>>>> you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or >>>>>> freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been >>>>>> given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or >>>>> 5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So >>>>> maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow >>>>> so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I >>>>> could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated >>>> with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different >>>> Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the >>>> foreseeable future?

    Red Dead Redemption 2 offered some bonuses that included a special
    horse on purchases through the Rockstar store. That's one of the few
    times I broke my "Steam only" rule and took a chance. It turned out

    Why do you have a "Steam only" rule?

    Because for the most part having a bunch of different game clients is
    a needless pain in the ass, my friends are on Steam and I play a lot
    of multiplayer games, I could go on, but preferences are what they are
    and not really worthwhile to debate.

    Also, I don't think most of them are compatible with Linux.

    Not sure if you've noticed, but some networks eliminate Steam but don't >>touch GOG for example, so it's nice to have as a backup whenever surfing >>anal-retentive networks, such as places where they have big heads.

    To each their own, I only play games from my home so no worries there.


    What do you mean by "eliminating Steam"? Also, if it's a network
    problem, couldn't you just use offline mode?
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 29 10:55:18 2026
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    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 23:38:30 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) said
    this thing:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Let's shelve this discussion until 2030, and then ask Ant his opinion
    on the game ;-)


    Assuming I am still alive. /s


    Ants never really die. They just respawn from the nearest egg creche.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 29 23:11:10 2026
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    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> writes:

    I'll wait until it's given away. I never finished the single player
    of 5, because to get much money you have to use the stock market at a
    certain point and I could never get it to work.

    Hmm, I don't remember that at all. To be sure, I didn't much like 5 and
    it's been a while, but I don't remember needing to make money for
    anything. But then, I think it took something like three stints to get
    through it, meaning I lost interest at least twice.

    But some simple stuff was so hard in 5. If you ended up in the sticks somewhere, you couldn't just steal a car to get around. Get in front of
    a car, they'd run you over. Shoot the driver or the car and the car just
    keeps going and going, maybe in a ditch or over a cliff. Realistic but
    not much fun.

    I at least finished GTA 4 even though I didn't like it as much as VC,
    or even 3 or SA. GTA 5 went down a not-fun route, there's barely any
    races, and no rampages (my favorite), police or firefighter missions.

    Those were cool, no? I played the updated versions of 3/VC/SA fairly
    recently and did the ambulance missions in Vice City. The health boost
    is handy. It was fun sliding that ambulance around since the roads are
    so slippery. But I didn't even try the police missions. I remember I did
    grind those so many times originally, I managed to blow up the police
    "ferrari" or other ride by accident or get run over or something so many
    times. I don't think I want to play that ever again.

    Rampages though... Not a fan. I went for 100% in GTA3 at some point but
    some rampages were *not* fun, the targets just wouldn't spawn fast
    enough. I had to retry some of them ridiculously many times to
    eventually get them.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 29 23:47:02 2026
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    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    writes:

    What do you mean by "eliminating Steam"? Also, if it's a network
    problem, couldn't you just use offline mode?

    Firewalls maybe? For example, my employer blocks the Steam website but
    not Epic or GoG. Or at least they used to. Could be some other public
    networks do that too.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Jun 30 01:00:28 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 23:38:30 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) said
    this thing:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Let's shelve this discussion until 2030, and then ask Ant his opinion
    on the game ;-)


    Assuming I am still alive. /s

    Ants never really die. They just respawn from the nearest egg creche.
    I learned that playing some Maxis game back in the 90s ;-)

    Really? /me goes to die.
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jul 3 11:51:48 2026
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    On 6/29/2026 1:11 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> writes:

    I'll wait until it's given away. I never finished the single player
    of 5, because to get much money you have to use the stock market at a
    certain point and I could never get it to work.

    Hmm, I don't remember that at all. To be sure, I didn't much like 5 and
    it's been a while, but I don't remember needing to make money for
    anything. But then, I think it took something like three stints to get through it, meaning I lost interest at least twice.

    But some simple stuff was so hard in 5. If you ended up in the sticks somewhere, you couldn't just steal a car to get around. Get in front of
    a car, they'd run you over. Shoot the driver or the car and the car just keeps going and going, maybe in a ditch or over a cliff. Realistic but
    not much fun.

    I at least finished GTA 4 even though I didn't like it as much as VC,
    or even 3 or SA. GTA 5 went down a not-fun route, there's barely any
    races, and no rampages (my favorite), police or firefighter missions.

    Those were cool, no? I played the updated versions of 3/VC/SA fairly
    recently and did the ambulance missions in Vice City. The health boost
    is handy. It was fun sliding that ambulance around since the roads are
    so slippery. But I didn't even try the police missions. I remember I did grind those so many times originally, I managed to blow up the police "ferrari" or other ride by accident or get run over or something so many times. I don't think I want to play that ever again.

    Rampages though... Not a fan. I went for 100% in GTA3 at some point but
    some rampages were *not* fun, the targets just wouldn't spawn fast
    enough. I had to retry some of them ridiculously many times to
    eventually get them.

    I don't remember that, though it's been around 25 years since I played it.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jul 5 01:50:07 2026
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 01:00 this Tuesday (GMT):
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 23:38:30 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) said
    this thing:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Let's shelve this discussion until 2030, and then ask Ant his opinion
    on the game ;-)


    Assuming I am still alive. /s

    Ants never really die. They just respawn from the nearest egg creche.
    I learned that playing some Maxis game back in the 90s ;-)

    Really? /me goes to die.


    nooo domt :(
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jul 5 01:50:08 2026
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    Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote at 20:47 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    writes:

    What do you mean by "eliminating Steam"? Also, if it's a network
    problem, couldn't you just use offline mode?

    Firewalls maybe? For example, my employer blocks the Steam website but
    not Epic or GoG. Or at least they used to. Could be some other public networks do that too.


    Again, offline mode would work fine then?
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jul 5 22:17:35 2026
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    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 01:00 this Tuesday (GMT):
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 23:38:30 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) said
    this thing:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Let's shelve this discussion until 2030, and then ask Ant his opinion >> >> on the game ;-)


    Assuming I am still alive. /s

    Ants never really die. They just respawn from the nearest egg creche.
    I learned that playing some Maxis game back in the 90s ;-)

    Really? /me goes to die.

    nooo domt :(

    /me respawns.
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