• Re: 486sx VS 486dx Differences needed please...

    From Tanvir Hafiz@tanvir.pro@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Wed Nov 4 07:23:53 2020
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    go with ryzen 7 3700x. it smokes sx, dx all other intel processor for last 20 generations out of water
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  • From Jj J@jaejunks@googlemail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Fri Nov 6 05:40:30 2020
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    On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 10:23:54 PM UTC+7, Tanvir Hafiz wrote:
    go with ryzen 7 3700x. it smokes sx, dx all other intel processor for last 20 generations out of water

    Seriously? How is that relevant? And how is it meaningful to reply an almost 20 years old thread?
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  • From Jj J@jaejunks@googlemail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Fri Nov 6 05:42:40 2020
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    On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:40:31 PM UTC+7, Jj J wrote:
    ... almost 20 years old thread

    Scratch that. I meant _more_ than 20 years old thread.
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  • From vladimir...@gmail.com@vladimir.rodionov@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Mon Nov 16 20:48:10 2020
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    On Monday, August 9, 1993 at 9:27:13 AM UTC+8, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Hi fellow Netters,
    I'm trying to convince may boss to get me a PC and I said that I would
    like to have an 486DX compared to 486SX, then came the fatel question
    "What are the differences between an SX and a DX...? How is it going
    to help you do your work more efficiently...can the cost difference
    be justified....?"
    eeeeeekkkkk !!! I screamed, I was able to give him some answers on the
    spur of the moment such as
    1. the way memory is accessed...
    2. Speed
    3. .......started to choke......
    Can any kind soul please give some pros and cons (I'll keep the cons away from my boss...;-)) between a Intel 80486sx and a 80486dx...
    thanks,

    SC
    please mail responses to med...@emunix.emich.edu
    In my opinion you should go with 486sx, the premium on the DX part will be hard to justify to your boss. Applications don't automatically take advantage of the x87 FPU, the y need to be compiled specifically with x87 support. This means any older programs will not benefit from the FPU and many newer ones also since not all compilers support targeting x87.
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  • From Robert Riebisch@Robert.Riebisch@arcor.de to comp.os.msdos.misc on Tue Nov 17 10:51:39 2020
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    vladimir...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Monday, August 9, 1993 at 9:27:13 AM UTC+8, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Hi fellow Netters,
    I'm trying to convince may boss to get me a PC and I said that I would
    like to have an 486DX compared to 486SX, then came the fatel question
    "What are the differences between an SX and a DX...? How is it going
    to help you do your work more efficiently...can the cost difference
    be justified....?"
    eeeeeekkkkk !!! I screamed, I was able to give him some answers on the
    spur of the moment such as
    1. the way memory is accessed...
    2. Speed
    3. .......started to choke......
    Can any kind soul please give some pros and cons (I'll keep the cons away
    from my boss...;-)) between a Intel 80486sx and a 80486dx...
    thanks,

    SC
    please mail responses to med...@emunix.emich.edu

    In my opinion you should go with 486sx, the premium on the DX part will be hard to justify to your boss. Applications don't automatically take advantage of the x87 FPU, the y need to be compiled specifically with x87 support. This means any older programs will not benefit from the FPU and many newer ones also since not all compilers support targeting x87.

    I think, you're late. By 27 years only. *g*

    --
    Robert Riebisch
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  • From vladimir...@gmail.com@vladimir.rodionov@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Tue Nov 17 02:32:16 2020
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 5:51:34 PM UTC+8, Robert Riebisch wrote:
    vladimir...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Monday, August 9, 1993 at 9:27:13 AM UTC+8, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Hi fellow Netters,
    I'm trying to convince may boss to get me a PC and I said that I would
    like to have an 486DX compared to 486SX, then came the fatel question
    "What are the differences between an SX and a DX...? How is it going
    to help you do your work more efficiently...can the cost difference
    be justified....?"
    eeeeeekkkkk !!! I screamed, I was able to give him some answers on the
    spur of the moment such as
    1. the way memory is accessed...
    2. Speed
    3. .......started to choke......
    Can any kind soul please give some pros and cons (I'll keep the cons away >> from my boss...;-)) between a Intel 80486sx and a 80486dx...
    thanks,

    SC
    please mail responses to med...@emunix.emich.edu

    In my opinion you should go with 486sx, the premium on the DX part will be hard to justify to your boss. Applications don't automatically take advantage of the x87 FPU, the y need to be compiled specifically with x87 support. This means any older programs will not benefit from the FPU and many newer ones also since not all compilers support targeting x87.
    I think, you're late. By 27 years only. *g*

    --
    Robert Riebisch
    The truth is never late nor it is early. It arrives exactly at the right moment. 486 is still a very capable DOS cpu in the right hands.
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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Wed Nov 18 20:08:12 2020
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:51:39 +0100, Robert Riebisch wrote:

    I think, you're late. By 27 years only. *g*

    By now, OP probably would have upgraded the PC, never get the PC in the
    first place, became the boss himself, or no longer work at that company.

    Either way, the reality have already branched. Answering it now won't create another branch of reality.

    IOTW, no use on shooting the footprints of a deer, in hopes that it ran the other way.
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  • From Tom Pestak@thomas.pestak@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Thu Dec 2 11:49:51 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Sunday, August 8, 1993 at 9:27:13 PM UTC-4, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Hi fellow Netters,
    I'm trying to convince may boss to get me a PC and I said that I would
    like to have an 486DX compared to 486SX, then came the fatel question
    "What are the differences between an SX and a DX...? How is it going
    to help you do your work more efficiently...can the cost difference
    be justified....?"
    eeeeeekkkkk !!! I screamed, I was able to give him some answers on the
    spur of the moment such as
    1. the way memory is accessed...
    2. Speed
    3. .......started to choke......
    Can any kind soul please give some pros and cons (I'll keep the cons away from my boss...;-)) between a Intel 80486sx and a 80486dx...
    thanks,

    SC
    please mail responses to med...@emunix.emich.edu

    Go with the DX-k if you're looking to overclock. Just make sure you have a suitable cooling solution. They probably have something at Radio Shack.
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  • From R.Wieser@address@not.available to comp.os.msdos.misc on Thu Dec 2 22:12:49 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    Tom,

    On Sunday, August 8, 1993 at 9:27:13 PM UTC-4, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu
    wrote:

    Does the term "necrobumping" mean anything to you ? That message you responded to is almost *thirty years* old. Heck, there is a possibility
    its older than you. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Tom Pestak@thomas.pestak@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Thu Dec 2 19:26:07 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-5, R.Wieser wrote:
    Tom,
    On Sunday, August 8, 1993 at 9:27:13 PM UTC-4, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Does the term "necrobumping" mean anything to you ? That message you responded to is almost *thirty years* old. Heck, there is a possibility
    its older than you. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    I thought I could send a message back in time. I guess I forgot to put in the crystals.
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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Fri Dec 3 14:25:51 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 19:26:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Pestak wrote:
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-5, R.Wieser wrote:
    Tom,
    On Sunday, August 8, 1993 at 9:27:13 PM UTC-4, x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu
    wrote:
    Does the term "necrobumping" mean anything to you ? That message you
    responded to is almost *thirty years* old. Heck, there is a possibility
    its older than you. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    I thought I could send a message back in time. I guess I forgot to put in the crystals.

    You'll have to find crystals from the future. Otherwise it'll never work.
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to comp.os.msdos.misc on Fri Dec 3 07:44:02 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:25:51 +0700
    JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 19:26:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Pestak wrote:
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-5, R.Wieser wrote:
    Tom,
    On Sunday, August 8, 1993 at 9:27:13 PM UTC-4,
    x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Does the term "necrobumping" mean anything to you ? That message
    you responded to is almost *thirty years* old. Heck, there is a
    possibility its older than you. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    I thought I could send a message back in time. I guess I forgot to
    put in the crystals.

    You'll have to find crystals from the future. Otherwise it'll never
    work.

    In the future DOS will be forgotten.(or has that already happened? - not
    many on-topic posts here these days!)
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to comp.os.msdos.misc on Sat Dec 4 13:39:58 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.msdos.misc

    On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 07:44:02 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:25:51 +0700
    JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 19:26:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Pestak wrote:
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 4:13:03 PM UTC-5, R.Wieser wrote:
    Tom,
    On Sunday, August 8, 1993 at 9:27:13 PM UTC-4,
    x92dod...@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
    Does the term "necrobumping" mean anything to you ? That message
    you responded to is almost *thirty years* old. Heck, there is a
    possibility its older than you. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    I thought I could send a message back in time. I guess I forgot to
    put in the crystals.

    You'll have to find crystals from the future. Otherwise it'll never
    work.

    In the future DOS will be forgotten.(or has that already happened? - not
    many on-topic posts here these days!)

    If it already happened, how can you be here in the first place? o_O
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