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When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

Is that shut off preventable?
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croy wrote:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

I *can* listen to e.g. https://times.radio/ in firefox on android, but I
don't tend to do it that way for long periods of time, preferrig either
using RadioPlayer or Tunein apps.

Is that shut off preventable?

Have you tried apps? (I know it can be annoying to load a multitude of
apps for different stations).
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Andy Burns wrote:

croy wrote:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

I *can* listen to e.g. https://times.radio/ in firefox on android, but I don't tend to do it that way for long periods of time, preferrig either using RadioPlayer or Tunein apps.

Is that shut off preventable?

Have you tried apps? (I know it can be annoying to load a multitude of
apps for different stations).

I'm no expert in this but I am vaguely aware that a bunch of things prevent audio in the background on "my" Android phone.

One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when
I screenblank while the NewPipe equivalent will happily play all night.

From my extensive dealings with the Aloha Browser on Windows, I'm aware
also that Chrome browsers have built-in play-in-background restrictions.

Android's Battery Optimization may also play a role, I would think.

One suggestion for the OP might be to give us the browser name & version
and those with that same browser can test it out, perhaps on a known file.

Also, disabling battery optimization would be a quick test of that theory.
Settings > Apps > (Browser) > Battery usage > {Unrestricted,Optimized}

Does the OP have a "Data Saver" turned on? (this is using pseudopaths)
Browser > Settings > Privacy & Security > Accessibility > Data Saver

Another test is to download VLC (which is likely one of the most used media players on any platform) and stream the URL from VLC (as if it's a browser) where VLC (at least on Windows) can handle an entire text playlist to play.

Unlikely but do you have a screen timeout that is causing the dropoff?
Do you have network-sleep policies on your wi-fi or mobile data?
Wi-Fi > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep > Always (pseudopath)

Does it happen with both Mozilla and Chromium-based browsers?

Which browser are you currently using, and does the audio cut out the
moment the screen goes black, or is it a few minutes later?
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croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and
shuts off after a few minutes.

Is that shut off preventable?

Radio station.
Browser.
"It" times out.

Would "it" be the radio station's delivery of content, or the [web]
browser shuts off (exits)?

If the shut off is a discontinuance of streaming content from the web
site, you sure they don't implement an idle timeout? You're likely
listening to the content, but not doing anything else at the website, so
it sees you are idle. If idle too long, they may figure you abandoned
the playback. Just because the client (web browser) is receiving the
streamed audio doesn't mean anyone is there at the client end to listen
to the music, so it is a waste of their resources and bandwidth to
continue playing something for which no one is listening.

You may only have to move the mouse cursor within the web page, or hit a
hotkey that retains the same web page to keep the website from idling
out your connection rather than have to switch to a different web page
(and back) to have the server see you are still there.

You didn't specify WHICH website where you are listening to their
streamed audio content. Check their TOS or FAQ to see if they have an
idle timeout "feature". Or, while listening to the streamed audio, do something at the website that requires other new content, like moving to another web page, that does not interrupt the playback to check if not
being idle there eliminates the idle stop.

Other bandwidth-heavy processes can interfere with the buffering of
streamed content. What other network activity is present at the time
either on your own computer, or others connected to the same modem?
Maybe your kids are playing online games when you're trying to listen to
radio content. You could set a QoS (Quality of Service) setting in the
router before the modem, or within the modem's own router (if it has
settings you can adjust), to give priority to your traffic.

If using wifi from your computer to the modem, could be the two are too
far apart or there are obstructions to the signal that reduce signal
strength. If the wifi signal is too weak, you might be losing buffering
of the streamed content, or complete loss of a connection to a website. Streaming content requires a persistent network connection.

Besides the website perhaps timing out what it sees as a client-side
idle session, maybe you're using [a]DSL instead of an always-on cable connections. DSL has its own timeout. The DSL modem might have a
keep-alive option to prevent the disconnect. DSL works by disconnecting
an idle connection, but supposedly reestablishing the connection very
quickly, yet the disconnect can interfere with a persistent connection.

Websites incur maintenance, high traffic that exceeds their resources,
or outages. You didn't mention if you could reconnect to the website immediately after the loss of streaming content.

If using a VPN, does the "shut off" still occur when NOT using a VPN?
If using streaming capture software, still get disconnects when not
using that capture software?

Did you enable the web browser's tab sleep option, if it has one?
Android Edge does not yet have the tab sleep option available in its
desktop version. You did not mention which web browser you are using.
I did not investigate all possible Android web browsers to see if any
have a tab sleep option.

Does the website have their own Android app which you can try instead of
using a web browser generic to all websites?
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On 2026-04-12 18:57, croy wrote:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

Is that shut off preventable?

Maybe the shut off is related to a power saving feature.


Try listening with an app instead. I have tried "Simple Radio" or "Open
Radio" or "Radioline". Today I would recommend the first one.

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>
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Maria Sophia wrote:

One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when
I screenblank

Youtube Premium allows background play.

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Andy Burns wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when >> I screenblank

Youtube Premium allows background play.

Good point. How do they do it? Do they use the same YouTube app?

Looking it up... it turns out that it isn't at all that the regular YouTube
app can't play in the background. Instead, it's that it is programmed to actively stop itself when it loses focus due to how the app interacts with
the Android Activity Lifecycle and Foreground Services.

Apparently, on regular YouTube when we switch apps or home screen, the
Android system triggers onPause() and onStop(). The regular app is coded to detect these triggers and immediately send a "pause" command to the video player.

When these same triggers occur on YouTube Premium, the app checks our
account status. If we have Premium, it ignores the command to stop the
player and instead transitions the playback to a Foreground Service.
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Maria Sophia wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Youtube Premium allows background play.

Good point. How do they do it? Do they use the same YouTube app?

Yes same app, behaves differently when signed-in to a paid account.

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Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....
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Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...
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Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.
2. MPV also has no ads, no analytics, no Google dependencies.
3. RadioDroid lets you extract direct stream URLs without trackers.

Since this is off topic, I opened a separate thread on the privacy aspect.

Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: How to listen to an Internet radio station with privacy from Google?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 03:29:36 -0600
Message-ID: <10rid20$30no$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
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croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> writes:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

Is that shut off preventable?

If you are listening in a fixed location, like I used to do with the
phone plugged into a hifi, then you can switch on developer mode, and
set it so it doesn't go into standby. You have to leave it connected to
the charger.

Also maybe check battery saving generally, and on the browser.
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On 2026-04-13 10:08, Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

Indeed.
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On 2026-04-13 10:01, Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....

Huh?
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On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

2. MPV also has no ads, no analytics, no Google dependencies.
3. RadioDroid lets you extract direct stream URLs without trackers.

Since this is off topic, I opened a separate thread on the privacy aspect.

Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: How to listen to an Internet radio station with privacy from Google?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 03:29:36 -0600
Message-ID: <10rid20$30no$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

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Carlos E.R.:

Siard:

Carlos E.R.:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared with Google....

Huh?

I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google monitors you in this domain'.
In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly what's going on.
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On 2026-04-13 12:52, Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R.:

Siard:

Carlos E.R.:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
with Google....

Huh?

I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google monitors you in this domain'.
In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly what's going on.

Well, google tracks almost every web page through their adverts and
scripts. As far as knowing the station, that's... peculiar.
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Am 13.04.26 um 13:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:

On 2026-04-13 12:52, Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R.:

Siard:

Carlos E.R.:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>> with Google....

Huh?

I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance >> Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google >> monitors you in this domain'.
In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly >> what's going on.

Well, google tracks almost every web page through their adverts and
scripts. As far as knowing the station, that's... peculiar.

Use the extension NoScript with Firefox.

http://noscript.net/

Not recommended for beginners.
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"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>> with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

I have often done that that by using Firefox developer tools (F12
- on the desktop version of Firefox) Network tab.
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>> with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

A long, long time ago, I used 'URL Snooper' to find the actual
multimedia URLs used by the web-players.

'URL Snooper' <http://www.donationcoder.com/software/mouser/popular-apps/url-snooper>

The latest release is quite old (2017), but lists Windows 10 (I used
it on Windows 8.1).

[...]
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croy, 2026-04-12 18:57:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

Is that shut off preventable?

Not if there is no option for it in the browser.

You may use an app like Radio Garden or similar which allows to keep
running in the background.
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Maria Sophia, 2026-04-12 19:38:

Andy Burns wrote:

croy wrote:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts >>> off after a few minutes.

I *can* listen to e.g. https://times.radio/ in firefox on android, but I
don't tend to do it that way for long periods of time, preferrig either
using RadioPlayer or Tunein apps.

Is that shut off preventable?

Have you tried apps? (I know it can be annoying to load a multitude of
apps for different stations).

I'm no expert in this but I am vaguely aware that a bunch of things prevent audio in the background on "my" Android phone.

One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when
I screenblank while the NewPipe equivalent will happily play all night.

Yes, because NewPipe is designed to do that. YouTube not - at least not
without paying for a "premium" plan.

Internet radio apps usually also allow playback in the background.
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Maria Sophia, 2026-04-12 23:08:

Andy Burns wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when >>> I screenblank

Youtube Premium allows background play.

Good point. How do they do it? Do they use the same YouTube app?

Maybe - I don't know, since I use RVX which is YouTube without restrictions.
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On 2026-04-13 19:33, Dave Royal wrote:

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>>> with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

I have often done that that by using Firefox developer tools (F12
- on the desktop version of Firefox) Network tab.

Yes, but if you only have the phone or tablet?
And the trouble of transferring the link. A link that is not permanent,
the stations change them periodically, and I think intentionally so that
the browsers and third party apps stop working.
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On 2026-04-13 20:58, Arno Welzel wrote:

croy, 2026-04-12 18:57:

When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
off after a few minutes.

Is that shut off preventable?

Not if there is no option for it in the browser.

You may use an app like Radio Garden or similar which allows to keep
running in the background.

Also, a well designed third party app might use less battery than the
browser. Specially so if you are using the official page from the
station, it will have dynamic adverts.
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On 2026-04-13 15:21, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 13.04.26 um 13:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:

On 2026-04-13 12:52, Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R.:

Siard:

Carlos E.R.:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>>> with Google....

Huh?

I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance
Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google >>> monitors you in this domain'.
In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly >>> what's going on.

Well, google tracks almost every web page through their adverts and
scripts. As far as knowing the station, that's... peculiar.

Use the extension NoScript with Firefox.

http://noscript.net/

Not recommended for beginners.

I don't bother.
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Arno Welzel wrote:

Internet radio apps usually also allow playback in the background.

I noticed on my audio folder that I had long ago tested
a. Open Radio
b. FM Radio
In addition to downloading yesterday
c. RadioDroid

Looking in Muntashirakon App Manager for their unique package names
a. com.yuriy.openradio
b. com.liveradio.fmradio.radiotuner.radiostation.amradio
c. net.programmierecke.radiodroid2

I haven't tested them recently, but I suggest to the OP that he can.
Although, it seems the OP is a hit-and-run poster to this newsgroup.

What's with that?
Is he just wasting our valuable time like micky does?

Has anyone received any response about this question from the OP?
Is he just playing games on the Android newsgroup with our valuable help?
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2026-04-13 19:33, Dave Royal wrote:

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Siard wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>>> with Google....

In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me... >>> 1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

I have often done that that by using Firefox developer tools (F12
- on the desktop version of Firefox) Network tab.

Yes, but if you only have the phone or tablet?

A long time ago (2017) I used the Android tPacketCapture app to
capture packets and the Android SharkReader app to analyze the packets.
But sadly my old URLs for these apps no longer work.

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.taosoftware.android.packetcapture>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.sharkreader>

Perhaps a Google search will find other download locations or/and
alternative apps.

And if one has a computer (Windows, Linux, macOS), Wireshark can be an alternative for the SharkReader app

And the trouble of transferring the link. A link that is not permanent,
the stations change them periodically, and I think intentionally so that
the browsers and third party apps stop working.

Yes, that - changing URLs - has been my experience as well.
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:23:53 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

I *can* listen to e.g. https://times.radio/ in firefox on android, but I >don't tend to do it that way for long periods of time, preferrig either >using RadioPlayer or Tunein apps.

Is that shut off preventable?

Have you tried apps? (I know it can be annoying to load a multitude of
apps for different stations).

I have not tried adding apps yet.
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 10:38:06 -0700, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Just getting back to this.

Android's Battery Optimization may also play a role, I would think.

Thanks! That struck gold. It was the app's battery optimization settings
that did the trick.
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 13:55:43 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

If the shut off is a discontinuance of streaming content from the web
site, you sure they don't implement an idle timeout? You're likely
listening to the content, but not doing anything else at the website, so
it sees you are idle. If idle too long, they may figure you abandoned
the playback. Just because the client (web browser) is receiving the >streamed audio doesn't mean anyone is there at the client end to listen
to the music, so it is a waste of their resources and bandwidth to
continue playing something for which no one is listening.

Thanks. It turned out to be the app's battery setting.

This is my first smart phone, and the settings are a morass of confusion
for me (what does [some arcane setting name] mean?).
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