From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Marian wrote:

Here is code that generates random (or sequential) BSSIDs to place into a file which can later be checked against Apple's highly insecure WPS DB.

Hi Carlos,

Note that I'm constantly adding value to the topic, unlike the Apple trolls (who seem to be defending Apple to the death, no matter what, using the
first inane excuse that they can think of, instead of helping us all).

My claim is that it's trivial to gather valid access points to check
against Apple's highly insecure WPS database, where below is that check.

Once we have tens of thousands of random (or sequential) BSSIDs (which we
can start at any start point but I stop at the FF:FF:FF wrap around), we
can then check each of them against Apple's highly insecure WPS database.

@echo off
:: This is C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssidcheck.bat
:: v1p0 20251217
:: checks a list of BSSIDs from bssidcheck.txt in Apple's WPS db
:: outputs to the console and into a timestamped log file
:: v1p1 20251217
:: added fullpath to output files in the console output
:: v1p2 20251217
:: only log when a lookup is successful
:: v1p3 20251217
:: added summary section of bssid's that were found

:: Begin Log setup
set LOGDIR=%~dp0log
if not exist "%LOGDIR%" mkdir "%LOGDIR%"

for /f %%A in ('wmic os get localdatetime ^| find "."') do set dt0=%%A
set "session_ts=%dt0:~0,8%_%dt0:~8,6%"
set "session_log=%LOGDIR%\session_%session_ts%.log"
:: End Log setup

:: --- begin Success list setup ---
set "FOUND_LIST="
:: --- end Success list setup ---

echo === New BSSID lookup session started at %date% %time% === >> "%session_log%"
echo Session log: %session_log%

:: Begin FILE MODE
if exist "%~dp0bssidcheck.txt" (
echo Processing BSSIDs from bssidcheck.txt...
for /f "usebackq tokens=*" %%X in ("%~dp0bssidcheck.txt") do (
set "BSSID=%%X"
call :process_bssid
)
goto end
)
:: End FILE MODE

:: Begin INTERACTIVE MODE
:loop
echo.
set /p BSSID=Enter the BSSID (or q to quit):
if /I "%BSSID%"=="q" goto end

call :process_bssid
goto loop

:: End INTERACTIVE MODE

:: Begin PROCESS ONE BSSID
:process_bssid
:: --- Clean up input ---
set "BSSID=%BSSID:"=%"
set "BSSID=%BSSID: =%"

:: --- begin Make filename-safe version ---
set "safeBSSID=%BSSID::=-%"
:: --- end Make filename-safe version ---

:: --- begin Generate timestamp for THIS lookup ---
for /f %%A in ('wmic os get localdatetime ^| find "."') do set dt=%%A
set "ts=%dt:~0,8%_%dt:~8,6%"
:: --- end Generate timestamp for THIS lookup ---

:: --- begin Timestamped output file ---
set "outfile=%LOGDIR%\bssidlookup_%ts%_%safeBSSID%.log"
:: --- end Timestamped output file ---

:: --- begin Clear previous coordinates ---
set LAT=
set LON=
:: --- end Clear previous coordinates ---

:: --- begin Run Python lookup ---
echo === Lookup started at %date% %time% === > "%outfile%"
echo BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%outfile%"
echo. >> "%outfile%"

python.exe apple_bssid_locator.py %BSSID% --all >> "%outfile%"
:: --- end Run Python lookup ---

:: --- begin Display results ---
echo -----------------------------------------------
type "%outfile%"
echo -----------------------------------------------
if defined LAT if defined LON echo Log written to: %outfile%
:: --- end Display results ---

:: --- begin Extract coordinates ---
for /f "tokens=2 delims=: " %%A in ('findstr /i "Latitude" "%outfile%"')
do set LAT=%%A
for /f "tokens=2 delims=: " %%B in ('findstr /i "Longitude" "%outfile%"')
do set LON=%%B

echo === Lookup finished at %date% %time% === >> "%outfile%"
echo. >> "%outfile%"
:: --- end Extract coordinates ---

:: --- begin Append to session log ---
if defined LAT if defined LON (
echo [%date% %time%] BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%session_log%"
echo Latitude: %LAT% >> "%session_log%"
echo Longitude: %LON% >> "%session_log%"
echo. >> "%session_log%"

:: Add to success list
set "FOUND_LIST=%FOUND_LIST% %BSSID%"
)
:: --- end Append to session log ---

:: --- begin Append to master log ---
if defined LAT if defined LON (
echo [%date% %time%] BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%LOGDIR%\bssidcheck_%session_ts%.log"
echo Latitude: %LAT% >> "%LOGDIR%\bssidcheck_%session_ts%.log"
echo Longitude: %LON% >> "%LOGDIR%\bssidcheck_%session_ts%.log"
echo. >> "%LOGDIR%\bssidcheck_%session_ts%.log"
)
:: --- end Append to master log ---

:: --- begin Open in Google Maps ---
if defined LAT if defined LON start msedge "https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=%LAT%,%LON%"
:: --- end Open in Google Maps ---

goto :eof
:: End PROCESS ONE BSSID


:end

:: --- begin Summary of successful lookups ---
echo.
echo ===== Summary of Successful BSSID Lookups =====
if defined FOUND_LIST (
echo %FOUND_LIST%
) else (
echo No BSSIDs were successfully located.
)
echo ===============================================
echo.
:: --- end Summary of successful lookups ---

echo Exiting. Goodbye!
:: end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssidcheck.bat
--
Never make the mistake of thinking I'm anything like the Apple trolls are.
I am not here for my ego; nor for my amusement; but to teach & learn.
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Marian wrote:

My claim is that it's trivial to gather valid access points to check
against Apple's highly insecure WPS database, where below is that check.

Anyone interested in running these TP-Link BSSIDs through Apple's
highly insecure WPS lookup database & reporting results to the team?
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid>

===== Summary of Successful BSSID Lookups =====
F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97
F4:F2:6D:38:43:72
F4:F2:6D:8E:DE:DC
F4:F2:6D:87:0A:CE
etc.
===============================================

Click on these links and let the team know what you find out from them:
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=F4-F2-6D-B6-A6-97>
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=F4-F2-6D-38-43-72>
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=F4-F2-6D-8E-DE-DC>
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=F4-F2-6D-87-0A-CE>
etc.

Here's a report of the nearest 400 APs to the Shreveport Louisiana BSSID:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/32°27'32.07"N+93°48'53.84"W/>
(4302 Josey Cir, Shreveport, LA 71109)

Enter the BSSID (or q to quit): F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97
-----------------------------------------------
=== Lookup started at Wed 12/17/2025 3:15:21.02 ===
BSSID: F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97

Searching for location of bssid: F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97
Saved 309 entries to results.txt
BSSID: f4:f2:6d:b6:a6:97
Latitude: 32.45974349
Longitude: -93.81695556

BSSID: 18:de:50:5b:14:6c
Latitude: 32.45925521
Longitude: -93.81757354

BSSID: 1a:1e:19:0d:c9:a9
Latitude: 32.45926666
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 1e:9e:cc:d6:cb:71
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81725311

BSSID: 1e:9e:cc:d6:cb:76
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81725311

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45988464
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 50:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.4591217
Longitude: -93.81761169

BSSID: 54:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45988082
Longitude: -93.81723022

BSSID: 62:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45986175
Longitude: -93.81723785

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45986938
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 6a:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45987701
Longitude: -93.81723022

BSSID: 6e:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.459846490000004
Longitude: -93.81730651000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:f8:36:d3
Latitude: 32.45880508
Longitude: -93.81717681

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:fa:b2:63
Latitude: 32.4595375
Longitude: -93.81742858

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:08:e0:72
Latitude: 32.45973968
Longitude: -93.81745147000001

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.45948791
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.4594841
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.4594841
Longitude: -93.81756591

BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.45910644
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 96:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.45948791
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 96:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45892715
Longitude: -93.81752014

BSSID: 9c:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.45941162
Longitude: -93.8166275

BSSID: 9e:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.45940017
Longitude: -93.81663513000001

BSSID: ae:4c:a5:65:93:62
Latitude: 32.45982742
Longitude: -93.81752014

BSSID: ae:4c:a5:65:93:67
Latitude: 32.45983505
Longitude: -93.81752014

BSSID: ba:5e:71:08:7c:6c
Latitude: 32.45958709
Longitude: -93.81726837000001

BSSID: ba:5e:71:08:7c:6f
Latitude: 32.45959091
Longitude: -93.81725311

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c0
Latitude: 32.45943069
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c1
Latitude: 32.4594078
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c3
Latitude: 32.459438320000004
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c5
Latitude: 32.45941543
Longitude: -93.81728363

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c6
Latitude: 32.45944976
Longitude: -93.81729125

BSSID: be:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.45941925
Longitude: -93.81661987

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:41:a5:59
Latitude: 32.45885467
Longitude: -93.81680297

BSSID: de:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.4594078
Longitude: -93.81664276000001

BSSID: ec:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45988845
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: fa:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45989227
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 12:3d:0a:47:68:48
Latitude: 32.45932769
Longitude: -93.81684875

BSSID: 3a:1e:19:0d:c9:a9
Latitude: 32.45920944
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 72:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.45911026
Longitude: -93.81761932

BSSID: 74:ea:e8:a0:a7:d7
Latitude: 32.45973205
Longitude: -93.81691741

BSSID: 78:d2:94:c9:68:48
Latitude: 32.45880889
Longitude: -93.81738281

BSSID: 82:da:c2:f4:9c:fd
Latitude: 32.45885086
Longitude: -93.81640625

BSSID: 88:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45894241
Longitude: -93.8175354

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45894622
Longitude: -93.8175354

BSSID: a2:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45894622
Longitude: -93.81755065

BSSID: 0a:1e:19:0d:c9:a9
Latitude: 32.45919799
Longitude: -93.81758117

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:41:a5:5e
Latitude: 32.45884704
Longitude: -93.81679534

BSSID: de:72:23:a3:8a:04
Latitude: 32.45986557
Longitude: -93.81764984

BSSID: e6:bf:fa:bb:35:f8
Latitude: 32.45929718
Longitude: -93.81698608

BSSID: e6:bf:fa:bb:35:fb
Latitude: 32.45929718
Longitude: -93.81697845000001

BSSID: 10:93:97:0a:e7:80
Latitude: 32.45983123
Longitude: -93.81554412

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:39
Latitude: 32.45924758
Longitude: -93.81565093

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3a
Latitude: 32.45924377
Longitude: -93.81565856

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3d
Latitude: 32.4592247
Longitude: -93.81564331

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3e
Latitude: 32.45925521
Longitude: -93.81563568

BSSID: 12:36:aa:85:84:c9
Latitude: 32.45958709
Longitude: -93.81570434

BSSID: 18:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Latitude: 32.45975494
Longitude: -93.81597137

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:42
Latitude: 32.45950698
Longitude: -93.81557464000001

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:43
Latitude: 32.45950698
Longitude: -93.81555938

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:45
Latitude: 32.45949935
Longitude: -93.81555938

BSSID: 36:e6:e6:86:cd:1c
Latitude: 32.45980453
Longitude: -93.81570434

BSSID: 3a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Latitude: 32.45976257
Longitude: -93.81599426

BSSID: 5a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Latitude: 32.45975112
Longitude: -93.81600189

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Latitude: 32.4597969
Longitude: -93.81586456000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:e4:35:dd
Latitude: 32.45980834
Longitude: -93.81555938

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.45982742
Longitude: -93.81553649

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.459030150000004
Longitude: -93.81517791

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Latitude: 32.4597969
Longitude: -93.81587982

BSSID: 94:a6:7e:31:02:35
Latitude: 32.45889282
Longitude: -93.81509399000001

BSSID: 96:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Latitude: 32.45978546
Longitude: -93.81589508

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.45982742
Longitude: -93.81553649

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.45904922
Longitude: -93.81517791

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.4598236
Longitude: -93.81553649

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.45904159
Longitude: -93.81518554

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.45983123
Longitude: -93.81555175

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.45905303
Longitude: -93.8152008

BSSID: be:61:e9:cd:aa:a8
Latitude: 32.458812710000004
Longitude: -93.81623077

BSSID: ca:3a:6b:db:9b:ba
Latitude: 32.45902252
Longitude: -93.81513977

BSSID: ce:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Latitude: 32.45965194
Longitude: -93.81586456000001

BSSID: d4:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Latitude: 32.45964431
Longitude: -93.81583404

BSSID: d6:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Latitude: 32.45964431
Longitude: -93.81583404

BSSID: da:e3:5e:f7:08:87
Latitude: 32.45980453
Longitude: -93.81556701

BSSID: f8:aa:3f:fe:b2:1e
Latitude: 32.4590187
Longitude: -93.81517791

BSSID: 4e:6b:b8:aa:8c:80
Latitude: 32.45885467
Longitude: -93.81540679

BSSID: 78:b2:13:e7:91:39
Latitude: 32.45882797
Longitude: -93.81607055

BSSID: 1e:30:08:a4:b8:64
Latitude: 32.45988082
Longitude: -93.81547546

BSSID: 9e:b3:f7:21:91:e7
Latitude: 32.459102630000004
Longitude: -93.81617736

BSSID: ce:8b:66:31:a1:df
Latitude: 32.45933151
Longitude: -93.81556701

BSSID: 80:30:dc:c2:05:26
Latitude: 32.45886993
Longitude: -93.81635284000001

BSSID: 6e:29:90:f7:23:74
Latitude: 32.45904159
Longitude: -93.81517028

BSSID: 0c:73:29:ff:29:93
Latitude: 32.45893096
Longitude: -93.81542968000001

BSSID: 7e:27:bc:95:f5:35
Latitude: 32.45974349
Longitude: -93.81566619

BSSID: 54:21:60:82:f9:80
Latitude: 32.45933914
Longitude: -93.81817626

BSSID: 66:c6:d2:a2:ca:41
Latitude: 32.45928955
Longitude: -93.81825256

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:24
Latitude: 32.45993041
Longitude: -93.81851959000001

BSSID: 82:da:c2:8e:e8:de
Latitude: 32.45935821
Longitude: -93.81826019

BSSID: 86:ea:ed:9d:93:56
Latitude: 32.45885467
Longitude: -93.81848144

BSSID: 88:57:1d:5f:b0:29
Latitude: 32.45927047
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45972442
Longitude: -93.81800079

BSSID: 8e:49:62:3e:0e:4a
Latitude: 32.45919418
Longitude: -93.81777191

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45974731
Longitude: -93.81801605

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45973968
Longitude: -93.81801605

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45972442
Longitude: -93.81801605

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:7e:64:69
Latitude: 32.45947647
Longitude: -93.81790924

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:7e:64:6f
Latitude: 32.45946502
Longitude: -93.81789398000001

BSSID: 2e:3f:75:b6:2f:07
Latitude: 32.45936203
Longitude: -93.81813812

BSSID: 82:da:c2:8e:e8:d9
Latitude: 32.459365840000004
Longitude: -93.81826019

BSSID: ae:ae:19:b3:82:47
Latitude: 32.45906448
Longitude: -93.81778717

BSSID: 32:9b:d6:b8:39:e9
Latitude: 32.45936965
Longitude: -93.81829833

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:23
Latitude: 32.459583280000004
Longitude: -93.81856536000001

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:26
Latitude: 32.45959091
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:27
Latitude: 32.45959091
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:25
Latitude: 32.45958709
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 50:fd:d5:04:5f:42
Latitude: 32.45814132
Longitude: -93.81715393

BSSID: 62:9c:8e:29:da:30
Latitude: 32.45869445
Longitude: -93.81692504

BSSID: 62:9c:8e:29:da:32
Latitude: 32.45867538
Longitude: -93.81691741

BSSID: 62:9c:8e:29:da:35
Latitude: 32.45868301
Longitude: -93.81696319

BSSID: 72:13:01:28:3a:49
Latitude: 32.4581108
Longitude: -93.81741333000001

BSSID: 72:13:01:28:3a:4a
Latitude: 32.45811462
Longitude: -93.81740570000001

BSSID: 88:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.4581871
Longitude: -93.81671905

BSSID: 96:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.45817947
Longitude: -93.81671905

BSSID: 9c:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.4576683
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: 9e:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.45766448
Longitude: -93.81726837000001

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.45819091
Longitude: -93.81671905

BSSID: bc:2e:48:ee:7e:a5
Latitude: 32.45818328
Longitude: -93.81676483

BSSID: be:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.45766448
Longitude: -93.81728363

BSSID: de:2e:48:ee:7e:a5
Latitude: 32.45818328
Longitude: -93.81674957

BSSID: de:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.45765686
Longitude: -93.81728363

BSSID: ee:79:0a:fc:38:85
Latitude: 32.45792388
Longitude: -93.81736755

BSSID: fa:79:0a:fc:38:85
Latitude: 32.45790863
Longitude: -93.81735229

BSSID: fe:2e:48:ee:7e:a5
Latitude: 32.4582138
Longitude: -93.81678771

BSSID: 12:3d:0a:60:d0:1c
Latitude: 32.45816421
Longitude: -93.81655883

BSSID: 18:9c:27:2c:f7:40
Latitude: 32.45811462
Longitude: -93.81652069

BSSID: 1c:e8:9e:86:6f:43
Latitude: 32.45815658
Longitude: -93.81722259

BSSID: 4a:bd:ce:cf:8f:71
Latitude: 32.458641050000004
Longitude: -93.81672668

BSSID: 4a:bd:ce:cf:8f:76
Latitude: 32.45863723
Longitude: -93.81671142

BSSID: 68:3a:48:cd:9b:2a
Latitude: 32.45803451
Longitude: -93.81713867

BSSID: a2:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.45833969
Longitude: -93.8167572

BSSID: a4:11:62:b8:a5:5a
Latitude: 32.45875167
Longitude: -93.81645965

BSSID: a6:53:d2:96:a3:a6
Latitude: 32.45819091
Longitude: -93.81773376

BSSID: d6:53:d2:96:a3:a6
Latitude: 32.45819854
Longitude: -93.81772613

BSSID: 72:c9:4e:2b:23:6b
Latitude: 32.4580574
Longitude: -93.81681823

BSSID: 5c:47:5e:a6:ed:ef
Latitude: 32.4579811
Longitude: -93.81711578000001

BSSID: 10:56:11:6a:80:86
Latitude: 32.46089553
Longitude: -93.81726074000001

BSSID: 10:da:43:3f:a1:0d
Latitude: 32.46057891
Longitude: -93.81767272

BSSID: 1e:9d:72:d4:4c:51
Latitude: 32.46066284
Longitude: -93.81764984

BSSID: 1e:9d:72:d4:4c:54
Latitude: 32.4606781
Longitude: -93.81765747

BSSID: 2c:7e:81:c7:f2:44
Latitude: 32.460353850000004
Longitude: -93.81745910000001

BSSID: 32:56:11:6a:80:86
Latitude: 32.46089172
Longitude: -93.81726837000001

BSSID: 38:17:b1:6e:e1:f6
Latitude: 32.46012115
Longitude: -93.81768035

BSSID: 42:17:b1:6e:e1:f6
Latitude: 32.46009063
Longitude: -93.81764984

BSSID: 4e:7e:81:c7:f2:44
Latitude: 32.46035003
Longitude: -93.81746673

BSSID: 52:56:11:6a:80:86
Latitude: 32.46089935
Longitude: -93.81726074000001

BSSID: 6e:7e:81:c7:f2:44
Latitude: 32.46036911
Longitude: -93.81747436

BSSID: 88:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.460617060000004
Longitude: -93.81711578000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:ba:9f:da
Latitude: 32.460742950000004
Longitude: -93.81735992

BSSID: 96:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.46060943
Longitude: -93.81713104

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.4606018
Longitude: -93.81712341000001

BSSID: a2:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.46061325
Longitude: -93.81712341000001

BSSID: ca:e5:da:d7:c2:44
Latitude: 32.45995712
Longitude: -93.81754302

BSSID: 00:1e:e5:7c:74:93
Latitude: 32.46081161
Longitude: -93.81645965

BSSID: 5c:b0:66:0b:d3:46
Latitude: 32.4608879
Longitude: -93.81703948

BSSID: 7e:b0:66:0b:d3:46
Latitude: 32.46088409
Longitude: -93.81703948

BSSID: 9e:b0:66:0b:d3:46
Latitude: 32.46088409
Longitude: -93.81703948

BSSID: 36:5e:08:70:77:09
Latitude: 32.46072006
Longitude: -93.81699371

BSSID: ce:8b:66:29:32:d4
Latitude: 32.4603157
Longitude: -93.81760406000001

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:29
Latitude: 32.46025848
Longitude: -93.81729888

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:2a
Latitude: 32.46026992
Longitude: -93.81729125

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:2e
Latitude: 32.460254660000004
Longitude: -93.81729888

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:2f
Latitude: 32.46035766
Longitude: -93.81731414000001

BSSID: 58:96:71:75:47:18
Latitude: 32.45874404
Longitude: -93.8155899

BSSID: b8:3a:9d:ff:8f:ba
Latitude: 32.45768737
Longitude: -93.81520843

BSSID: ce:6c:6d:bd:5a:e9
Latitude: 32.458641050000004
Longitude: -93.81510925

BSSID: d4:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45795822
Longitude: -93.81510162000001

BSSID: d4:6c:6d:bd:5a:e9
Latitude: 32.45866012
Longitude: -93.81512451

BSSID: d6:6c:6d:bd:5a:e9
Latitude: 32.458667750000004
Longitude: -93.81512451

BSSID: e2:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45796966
Longitude: -93.81510925

BSSID: ea:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45796203
Longitude: -93.81511688

BSSID: ee:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45796585
Longitude: -93.81511688

BSSID: 12:59:32:bf:8f:69
Latitude: 32.45852661
Longitude: -93.81599426

BSSID: 34:ea:e7:69:1a:03
Latitude: 32.45866012
Longitude: -93.81589508

BSSID: b0:7f:b9:01:3b:e3
Latitude: 32.45864868
Longitude: -93.81630706

BSSID: c8:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.458667750000004
Longitude: -93.81589508

BSSID: ce:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.45867156
Longitude: -93.81587982

BSSID: d6:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.45867156
Longitude: -93.81588745

BSSID: da:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.45867156
Longitude: -93.81587219000001

BSSID: 54:e0:19:43:85:8d
Latitude: 32.458667750000004
Longitude: -93.81587219000001

BSSID: 2e:3f:75:35:25:b9
Latitude: 32.45836257
Longitude: -93.8187561

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:74
Latitude: 32.45783233
Longitude: -93.81846618

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:75
Latitude: 32.45782852
Longitude: -93.81846618

BSSID: 04:17:b6:01:74:91
Latitude: 32.45777511
Longitude: -93.81830596

BSSID: 4c:bc:e9:ae:85:e6
Latitude: 32.458477020000004
Longitude: -93.8188095

BSSID: 54:a6:5c:b0:58:af
Latitude: 32.45839691
Longitude: -93.81859588

BSSID: 54:a6:5c:b0:58:b4
Latitude: 32.45838546
Longitude: -93.81859588

BSSID: 72:13:01:fd:d6:19
Latitude: 32.458404540000004
Longitude: -93.81896972

BSSID: 86:ef:16:b0:c3:44
Latitude: 32.4580307
Longitude: -93.81842803

BSSID: 88:ef:16:b0:c3:44
Latitude: 32.45802688
Longitude: -93.81842041

BSSID: 08:65:f0:85:af:46
Latitude: 32.458133690000004
Longitude: -93.81807708000001

BSSID: 9c:34:26:24:02:fe
Latitude: 32.45853042
Longitude: -93.81868743

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:e2:72:58
Latitude: 32.45835494
Longitude: -93.81844329

BSSID: a6:36:c7:93:a6:e3
Latitude: 32.45809555
Longitude: -93.81831359

BSSID: ac:91:9b:d4:bd:30
Latitude: 32.45775222
Longitude: -93.81910705

BSSID: ae:61:a3:82:38:31
Latitude: 32.45793151
Longitude: -93.81826782

BSSID: ae:97:cd:1d:65:1d
Latitude: 32.45816421
Longitude: -93.81831359

BSSID: ae:ae:19:be:75:b9
Latitude: 32.45865631
Longitude: -93.81803894000001

BSSID: be:34:26:24:02:fe
Latitude: 32.45854187
Longitude: -93.81868743

BSSID: be:d7:d4:c9:42:98
Latitude: 32.4582901
Longitude: -93.81867218000001

BSSID: c6:50:9c:9d:03:92
Latitude: 32.45809555
Longitude: -93.81854248

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:17
Latitude: 32.45872497
Longitude: -93.81905364

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:1a
Latitude: 32.45876693
Longitude: -93.81905364

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:1c
Latitude: 32.458740230000004
Longitude: -93.81904602

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:1d
Latitude: 32.45874404
Longitude: -93.81906127

BSSID: de:34:26:24:02:fe
Latitude: 32.45853424
Longitude: -93.8186798

BSSID: e2:db:d1:ca:98:99
Latitude: 32.45833587
Longitude: -93.8184967

BSSID: f6:79:0a:5a:0e:aa
Latitude: 32.45858383
Longitude: -93.81819915

BSSID: f8:79:0a:5a:0e:aa
Latitude: 32.45858001
Longitude: -93.81817626

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:6f
Latitude: 32.45782089
Longitude: -93.81845855

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:72
Latitude: 32.45783233
Longitude: -93.81846618

BSSID: 4a:ea:62:bb:12:84
Latitude: 32.45869445
Longitude: -93.81802368

BSSID: 08:65:f0:84:e3:7e
Latitude: 32.45810699
Longitude: -93.81805419

BSSID: 08:65:f0:85:ab:f6
Latitude: 32.45824813
Longitude: -93.81806182

BSSID: 9e:b3:f7:e9:12:d2
Latitude: 32.45869445
Longitude: -93.81893157

BSSID: a6:6a:44:d3:d3:fb
Latitude: 32.45800399
Longitude: -93.81819915

BSSID: b6:53:d2:96:a3:a6
Latitude: 32.45809936
Longitude: -93.81781768

BSSID: be:d7:d4:d1:6d:a5
Latitude: 32.4582138
Longitude: -93.81854248

BSSID: de:cd:2f:94:a1:f3
Latitude: 32.45821762
Longitude: -93.81860351

BSSID: bc:64:4b:13:e5:b4
Latitude: 32.45775985
Longitude: -93.81871795

BSSID: 0e:64:4b:13:e5:b4
Latitude: 32.4577713
Longitude: -93.81870269

BSSID: 6e:29:90:48:48:f8
Latitude: 32.45824813
Longitude: -93.81910705

BSSID: 6e:29:90:44:df:e4
Latitude: 32.45845794
Longitude: -93.81904602

BSSID: 6e:29:90:48:5c:92
Latitude: 32.45841598
Longitude: -93.81911468

BSSID: 10:9a:dd:89:81:75
Latitude: 32.46053314
Longitude: -93.81541442

BSSID: 16:93:7c:21:d8:cd
Latitude: 32.460472100000004
Longitude: -93.81539154000001

BSSID: 1c:93:7c:21:d8:cd
Latitude: 32.46047592
Longitude: -93.81538391000001

BSSID: 1e:51:a4:d5:ad:2e
Latitude: 32.46110534
Longitude: -93.81504821

BSSID: 22:76:13:0c:4a:e6
Latitude: 32.46063232
Longitude: -93.81548309

BSSID: 02:71:47:b8:8e:45
Latitude: 32.46051788
Longitude: -93.81537628

BSSID: 02:a0:0d:cf:38:92
Latitude: 32.46069717
Longitude: -93.81577301

BSSID: 2a:c5:c8:13:e4:09
Latitude: 32.46052169
Longitude: -93.81542205

BSSID: 3a:a0:97:ae:25:b0
Latitude: 32.46107101
Longitude: -93.81588745

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5d
Latitude: 32.45996475
Longitude: -93.81601715000001

BSSID: 48:ea:62:19:c1:37
Latitude: 32.46043395
Longitude: -93.81559753

BSSID: 58:07:f8:2c:e9:f4
Latitude: 32.46059417
Longitude: -93.81523895000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:39:d3:36
Latitude: 32.460472100000004
Longitude: -93.81536102

BSSID: c0:a0:0d:cf:38:92
Latitude: 32.46071243
Longitude: -93.81578826

BSSID: c2:38:96:68:ab:18
Latitude: 32.46050643
Longitude: -93.81540679

BSSID: e2:a0:0d:cf:38:92
Latitude: 32.46071243
Longitude: -93.81578063

BSSID: e8:97:b8:8e:f4:99
Latitude: 32.4604988
Longitude: -93.81613159

BSSID: 0e:93:7c:21:d8:cd
Latitude: 32.46048355
Longitude: -93.81538391000001

BSSID: f8:a0:97:ae:25:b0
Latitude: 32.46107482
Longitude: -93.8159027

BSSID: 28:6b:b4:e6:5a:6a
Latitude: 32.46052169
Longitude: -93.81571197

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:59
Latitude: 32.46013259
Longitude: -93.81605529000001

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5a
Latitude: 32.46012878
Longitude: -93.81604766

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5e
Latitude: 32.46014404
Longitude: -93.81604766

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5f
Latitude: 32.46013259
Longitude: -93.81605529000001

BSSID: 54:21:60:82:37:08
Latitude: 32.46048736
Longitude: -93.81610107

BSSID: 8c:61:a3:83:5c:19
Latitude: 32.4610939
Longitude: -93.81595611

BSSID: 8c:85:80:e4:91:ab
Latitude: 32.46012115
Longitude: -93.81610107

BSSID: 90:d0:92:56:be:64
Latitude: 32.46058654
Longitude: -93.81621551

BSSID: a2:ff:70:fe:7b:e8
Latitude: 32.46064376
Longitude: -93.81583404

BSSID: a2:ff:70:fe:7b:ed
Latitude: 32.46063995
Longitude: -93.81584167

BSSID: 0a:05:81:2b:bb:4d
Latitude: 32.4604988
Longitude: -93.81541442

BSSID: ae:61:a3:83:5c:19
Latitude: 32.4610939
Longitude: -93.81596374

BSSID: c2:e5:da:6e:1b:48
Latitude: 32.46081161
Longitude: -93.81608581

BSSID: ce:61:a3:83:5c:19
Latitude: 32.46108627
Longitude: -93.81595611

BSSID: 86:ea:ed:40:1b:57
Latitude: 32.4599533
Longitude: -93.81594848

BSSID: da:a0:11:b9:d5:51
Latitude: 32.46051788
Longitude: -93.81621551

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:21
Latitude: 32.4601593
Longitude: -93.81848907

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:22
Latitude: 32.46015167
Longitude: -93.81848907

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:26
Latitude: 32.46016311
Longitude: -93.81850433

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:39:cb:07
Latitude: 32.46070098
Longitude: -93.81808471000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:07:10:ef
Latitude: 32.46009826
Longitude: -93.81835174

BSSID: 8c:61:a3:a1:11:01
Latitude: 32.46061325
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:51:c7:f7
Latitude: 32.46059036
Longitude: -93.81776428

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.46043014
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 8e:49:62:6e:f4:8a
Latitude: 32.46063995
Longitude: -93.81803131

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:51:c7:f7
Latitude: 32.46057891
Longitude: -93.81777954

BSSID: 96:76:3f:51:c7:f7
Latitude: 32.46059417
Longitude: -93.81775665

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.46042251
Longitude: -93.81858825

BSSID: a0:68:7e:90:9d:50
Latitude: 32.46071243
Longitude: -93.81809997

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.460426330000004
Longitude: -93.81858825

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.46038436
Longitude: -93.81861877

BSSID: cc:58:30:61:e8:27
Latitude: 32.46091461
Longitude: -93.81833648

BSSID: d4:5d:df:e4:38:10
Latitude: 32.46094512
Longitude: -93.81808471000001

BSSID: 18:60:24:d6:92:0f
Latitude: 32.46081161
Longitude: -93.81790161

BSSID: 2a:c5:c8:04:a7:dd
Latitude: 32.46001434
Longitude: -93.81880187

BSSID: 4a:4b:d4:6a:36:fd
Latitude: 32.46064376
Longitude: -93.81900787000001

BSSID: 8e:49:62:f2:22:22
Latitude: 32.460762020000004
Longitude: -93.81889343

BSSID: ae:61:a3:a1:11:01
Latitude: 32.46060943
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: ce:61:a3:a1:11:01
Latitude: 32.46060943
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: d4:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46016311
Longitude: -93.81820678

BSSID: e2:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46017837
Longitude: -93.81820678

BSSID: ea:01:c7:48:27:3c
Latitude: 32.46076965
Longitude: -93.81806945

BSSID: ea:5d:df:e4:38:10
Latitude: 32.46091842
Longitude: -93.81809234

BSSID: ea:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46017074
Longitude: -93.81820678

BSSID: ee:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46022033
Longitude: -93.81821441

BSSID: fa:d2:ac:08:fd:ed
Latitude: 32.46027374
Longitude: -93.81826782

BSSID: fc:51:a4:ae:a5:50
Latitude: 32.46082305
Longitude: -93.81792449

BSSID: fe:51:a4:ae:a5:50
Latitude: 32.46081542
Longitude: -93.81790924

BSSID: e2:3e:cb:98:c8:2c
Latitude: 32.46010589
Longitude: -93.81864929

BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
Latitude: 32.45991134
Longitude: -93.81384277000001

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.458904260000004
Longitude: -93.81495666

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45891189
Longitude: -93.81496429

BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9a
Latitude: 32.45918273
Longitude: -93.81450653

BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9d
Latitude: 32.45917892
Longitude: -93.81450653

BSSID: ec:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45891189
Longitude: -93.81495666

BSSID: fa:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45890808
Longitude: -93.81495666
-----------------------------------------------
--
The point being made is not that I wish to track movement (I don't!);
but that it's trivial to do using the insecure Apple WPS database.
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Carlos E.R. wrote:

I'll dig a bit to see if maybe a repeater/bridge threw me under the bus.

Doubtful.

The SSID is the same, so would have the _nomap, but I'm unsure about the BSSID keeping or not.

In any case, you can find out if the SSID is published or hidden by any
of those repeaters/bridges. Just move near to each one of them, and
query the laptop information. Make sure it is connected to it by
comparing the strength of the signal.

I found out, directly from Apple, what the problem was.

I'm not at liberty to provide the details, but my neighbor, who is very
high in the Apple hierarchy, filed a RADAR internal bug report for me.

After a week of discussing the problem, and even with my high-level access, Apple pulled the typical stalling & denial (can't reproduce) tactic, I
stood my ground and asked Apple to answer one question to my satisfaction.

Q: Why, when I followed all Apple's published rules, am I in their WPS db?
A: The answer came back that they don't respect the fact my SSID is hidden.
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Andy Burns wrote:

If you have a free unused/old router or access point, you could set it
up with a hidden _nomap SSID, and without connecting any of your phones
to it, wait to see if the BSSID appears listed after a month or two. It
would be interesting to check every day with a script, to see how fast
they update.

Ask some friends who use iPhones to come round for a coffee, the more devices hoovering up data the better? They may only add BSSIDs to the
DB if they've seen them via multiple devices.

Hi Andy,

I respect you so I am explaining that I'm taking your suggestion to heart.
Yet we don't need any Apple devices to run this test, it's that easy to do.

Jan 1st I'm putting 3 old routers (which you may recognize) in Palo Alto.
<https://i.postimg.cc/44WKMKpJ/apple-wps-testing.jpg>

1. Normal SSID
2. _nomap SSID
3. _nomap SSID + hidden broadcast frames

I have a friend in Palo Alto who is willing to host these three routers for about a month, starting on January 1st, 2026. Then we will move the three routers to Cupertino on February 1st to simulate moving to a new flat.
From: Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless
Subject: Help! How do we get Apple to care about privacy for entities who own access points?
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2025 23:42:17 -0700
Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com)
Message-ID: <10ig209$29kr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

I already know EXACTLY what will happen, but this is simply the test
results that I will show to Apple when the time comes to show it to them.

Given virtually every router in the world has the HIDDEN broadcast frame feature, we can assume hundreds of millions of people use that feature.

Apple does not intend to honor their own published privacy policy, so the routers with that feature will be included in the public Apple WPS
database, which is expressly against the wishes of the people who do that.

What Apple "is doing" is the antithesis of what Apple "says" they will do.

To me, that's morally, ethically & legally reprehensible for Apple to do
that, and Apple can't say they're unaware because I know they're aware.
--
It used to be Apple only told the truth in court, but with Judge Gonzalez' case with Apple execs, it may be Apple doen't even tell the truth in court.
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Andy Burns wrote:

Nor mine, by SSID name (not hidden or _nomap suffix)

I wouldn't really expect anyone to have wardriven around here with a
laptop running Vistumbler, but you never know ...

Hi Andy,

In the United States, it's a public record where everyone who owns a home lives, so there's a 1:1 relationship between them and their router.

Cybernews: *Anyone can tap into your WiFi location data to track you*
explains how Apple's WPS can be exploited for mass surveillance. <https://cybernews.com/privacy/apple-beams-wifi-location-data-privacy-risk/>

The researchers already showed anyone in the world is already able to use Apple's WPS db to track Loretta Anne Jameson's AP which is currently
located at 4302 Josey Circle, Shreveport, LA 71109.

When she moves, I'll let you know where she moves her router to.
Likewise with any of her neighbors.

Ronda and Alfred Beel, 4310 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Benjamin and Eric Choyica 1/4 and, 4318 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Jeffrey Devin, 4306 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Flora Ann Jackson Gellion, 4338 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Lonzie D. Groniger, 4321 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Lutrisher Walton Hill, 4329 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Melvin Hawthorn, Jr. 1/2 and, 4823 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Mary E. Gebbs Hendy, 4816 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Shane Jameson Sr., 4330 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Rosemary Ellerbee Jones, 4317 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Charles Nesh, 4824 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
James and Dollie Henson Smythe, 4314 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Sherryn Marie Smythe, 4820 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Terrince Steedman, 4326 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Pamela Tomas, 4828 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Trivia Yashica Watken, 4827 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
etc.

Anyone can do this for any home in the United States.
Which is why this is so dangerous to privacy.
--
I'm here to help others understand the deeper mechanics of WPS that
most people never comprehend (& that Apple marketing never explains).
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

On 2025-12-28 16:14, Marian wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Nor mine, by SSID name (not hidden or _nomap suffix)

I wouldn't really expect anyone to have wardriven around here with a
laptop running Vistumbler, but you never know ...

Hi Andy,
In the United States, it's a public record where everyone who owns a home lives, so there's a 1:1 relationship between them and their router.

Only assuming the accuracy of the database...

...which isn't accurate...

...because devices that AREN'T in the supposed location of an AP are
reporting that one is NEAR their actual location.

Cybernews: *Anyone can tap into your WiFi location data to track you* explains how Apple's WPS can be exploited for mass surveillance. <https://cybernews.com/privacy/apple-beams-wifi-location-data-privacy- risk/>

The researchers already showed anyone in the world is already able to use Apple's WPS db to track Loretta Anne Jameson's AP which is currently
located at 4302 Josey Circle, Shreveport, LA 71109.

How do you know that?

When she moves, I'll let you know where she moves her router to.
Likewise with any of her neighbors.

Ronda and Alfred Beel, 4310 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Benjamin and Eric Choyica 1/4 and, 4318 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Jeffrey Devin, 4306 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Flora Ann Jackson Gellion, 4338 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Lonzie D. Groniger, 4321 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Lutrisher Walton Hill, 4329 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Melvin Hawthorn, Jr. 1/2 and, 4823 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Mary E. Gebbs Hendy, 4816 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Shane Jameson Sr., 4330 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Rosemary Ellerbee Jones, 4317 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Charles Nesh, 4824 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
James and Dollie Henson Smythe, 4314 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Sherryn Marie Smythe, 4820 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Terrince Steedman, 4326 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Pamela Tomas, 4828 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
Trivia Yashica Watken, 4827 Josey Cir, Unit #2-A
etc.

Anyone can do this for any home in the United States.
Which is why this is so dangerous to privacy.

--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

On Dec 28, 2025 at 11:55:12 PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-28 16:14, Marian wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Nor mine, by SSID name (not hidden or _nomap suffix)

I wouldn't really expect anyone to have wardriven around here with a
laptop running Vistumbler, but you never know ...

Hi Andy,
In the United States, it's a public record where everyone who owns a home
lives, so there's a 1:1 relationship between them and their router.

Only assuming the accuracy of the database...

...which isn't accurate...

...because devices that AREN'T in the supposed location of an AP are reporting that one is NEAR their actual location.

And STILL assuming that a moving router ALWAYS indicates the person moved. MUCH more likely that the router was sold/given away.

Not to mention that since their are "public records where everyone who owns a home
lives" then what is this router adding anyway? If you know where I live, why does the router even matter?

The answer to that is obvious. It only matters because Arlen thinks it makes Apple "look bad".

Which is Arlen's lifelong quest.
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Tyrone wrote:

it makes Apple "look bad".

What Apple does is what "makes Apple look bad", not me.

What's important is that Apple's WPS database implementation is insecure. That's not opinion. That's fact which was described in the research.

Google's WPS database access is nothing like Apple's WPS database access. Anyone in the world can access Apple's entire WPS db without restriction.

All I did was reproduce what the researchers said was easily possible.
And it was.

What the researchers didn't note, and which I learned, and I'm likely only
one out of millions who knows this, was not only does Apple not respect
their own published privacy policy on opting out, but they have no
intention of respecting their published privacy opt-out policy.

This is not opinion.
This is fact.

Only one out of millions of people know what I just said above.
We know it because we're extremely intelligent and well informed.

Bear in mind if Google or Mozilla did what Apple did, I would be on their
case too, because what Apple is doing is the antithesis of what Apple
"says" it does.

It's legally, morally & ethically reprehensible what Apple is doing.
If Google or Mozilla did what Apple does, I'd say the same of them.

But they didn't.
Only Apple does this.
--
I'm here to help others understand the deeper mechanics of WPS that
most people never comprehend (& that Apple marketing never explains).
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Marian wrote on 12/29/2025 4:04 PM:

Tyrone wrote:

it makes Apple "look bad".

What Apple does is what "makes Apple look bad", not me.

What's important is that Apple's WPS database implementation is
insecure. That's not opinion. That's fact which was described in the research.

Google's WPS database access is nothing like Apple's WPS database access. Anyone in the world can access Apple's entire WPS db without restriction.

All I did was reproduce what the researchers said was easily possible.
And it was.

What the researchers didn't note, and which I learned, and I'm likely only one out of millions who knows this, was not only does Apple not respect
their own published privacy policy on opting out, but they have no
intention of respecting their published privacy opt-out policy.

This is not opinion.
This is fact.

Only one out of millions of people know what I just said above.
We know it because we're extremely intelligent and well informed.

Bear in mind if Google or Mozilla did what Apple did, I would be on their case too, because what Apple is doing is the antithesis of what Apple
"says" it does.

It's legally, morally & ethically reprehensible what Apple is doing.
If Google or Mozilla did what Apple does, I'd say the same of them.

But they didn't.
Only Apple does this.

So, I have to ask ... WHY aren't you taking any positive action marion?

Anonymously Posting rubbish on usenet will not help us, nor you. Apple doesn't even read it, let alone anyone that could intervene.

I realize you are a secret agent and must maintain your privacy to top
secret level, but surely you realize few can even read your secret stuff.

You are pissing up a rainpipe, Marion 007.

This message will self-destruct in 3 seconds ... sssssss.

--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

Marian wrote on 12/29/2025 4:04 PM:

Tyrone wrote:

it makes Apple "look bad".

What Apple does is what "makes Apple look bad", not me.

What's important is that Apple's WPS database implementation is
insecure. That's not opinion. That's fact which was described in the research.

Google's WPS database access is nothing like Apple's WPS database access. Anyone in the world can access Apple's entire WPS db without restriction.

All I did was reproduce what the researchers said was easily possible.
And it was.

What the researchers didn't note, and which I learned, and I'm likely only one out of millions who knows this, was not only does Apple not respect
their own published privacy policy on opting out, but they have no
intention of respecting their published privacy opt-out policy.

This is not opinion.
This is fact.

Only one out of millions of people know what I just said above.

Thank goodness! If only a few people and yourself know this, the rest
of us likely have some time left.

We know it because we're extremely intelligent and well informed.

Your superior intellect is well known Marion. But who are the others in
the "We"?

I'm sure everyone would like to thank this genius cadre for their efforts.

No, on second thought perhaps not. I'm sure all these people are
cloaked in secrecy, and we should do nothing to blow their cover.


This message will self destruct in 3 seconds.



--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2