• How to empty recycle bin

    From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to comp.mobile.android on Thu Nov 27 18:01:41 2025
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    Hi all,

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
    With best regards,

    Fokke Nauta
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Thu Nov 27 18:23:00 2025
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    On 27.11.25 18:01, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
    With best regards,

    On Samsung tablets running Android 11, the "Recycle Bin" is typically
    part of the Gallery or My Files app, not a standalone feature like on a computer. Here’s how you can find and empty it:

    1. Gallery App Recycle Bin

    Open the Gallery app.
    Tap the three-line menu (☰) or three dots (⋮) in the top-right corner.
    Look for Recycle Bin or Trash.
    Select the files you want to delete permanently, then tap Delete or Empty.

    2. My Files App Recycle Bin

    Open the My Files app.
    Tap the three-line menu (☰) or three dots (⋮) in the top-right corner. Select Recycle Bin or Trash.
    Choose the files to delete, then tap Delete all or Empty.

    3. Google Photos Recycle Bin
    If your friend uses Google Photos:

    Open the Google Photos app.
    Tap Library > Bin.
    Select files and tap Delete or Empty bin.
    Note: If you don’t see a Recycle Bin in either app, it’s possible that
    the feature is disabled or not available on that specific model or
    Android version. Some Samsung devices only keep deleted files in the
    Recycle Bin for a limited time (e.g., 15 or 30 days) before
    auto-deleting them.

    Mistral's answer to your complete post.

    Fokke Nauta

    Jörg
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.mobile.android on Thu Nov 27 12:02:27 2025
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    Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9cmWguIvZ8

    That user has a file manager on whatever Samsung he has with an
    unidentified version of Android that shows the Trash folder. You might
    have to change from whatever one you now use that doesn't show it.

    Might find more focused articles by including your phone make and model,
    and android version, in an online search, like criteria of:

    <make> <model> android <majorversion> empty trash recycle bin

    Besides variance between Android versions there is variance due to phone
    maker customizations. Perhaps it is the same on your phone, but on my
    ancient LG V20 running Android 8, I can go to Android settings ->
    General -> Storage -> tap on a storage type, and there is a "Free up
    space" choice. Currently mine is saying 2.81 GB could be freed up. For
    me, most of that (1.78 GB) is for "Idle apps". I'm not uninstalling any
    apps, so I won't get much from the rest of the clean up. Just because I haven't use an app in 6 months does not mean I no longer want it;
    however, the idle app list did show one app that I forgot to uninstall
    after I no longer subscribed to its service.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 13:55:02 2025
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    On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 18:01:41 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:
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    s|b
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 13:10:41 2025
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    "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote or quoted:
    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:

    Yeah, I was wondering about that too! I knew some file managers have
    their own trash bins, so I figured the OP either uses one of those
    or maybe some Android version I haven't heard of that includes one.


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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 13:26:32 2025
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    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 18:01:41 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:

    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app function. (I don't know which 'apps' other than (Windows) File Explorer
    use the Recycle Bin.)

    An advantage of the Android-type Trash is that it is timed, typically
    for 30 days, so after an item is deleted, it will be kept for 30 days.

    So my Windows Recycle Bin is nearly always empty, because I don't like
    cruft, but my Android Trash cans just empty themselves.

    (And yes, I of course saw and noted the smiley.)
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 15:49:40 2025
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    On 29.11.25 14:26, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app function.

    That is exactly what I wrote already two days ago.
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    "De gustibus non est disputandum."
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 15:06:44 2025
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    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 29.11.25 14:26, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app function.

    That is exactly what I wrote already two days ago.

    Yes, but s|b's (snipped) 'question' was today.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 16:09:38 2025
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    On 29 Nov 2025 13:10:41 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:

    "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote or quoted:

    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:

    Yeah, I was wondering about that too! I knew some file managers have
    their own trash bins, so I figured the OP either uses one of those
    or maybe some Android version I haven't heard of that includes one.

    I was vaguely aware of files (pictures) not being removed immediately,
    but staying available for 30 days or so.

    I have Total Commander on my phone and when I remove files the name is
    changed.

    file.jpg

    to

    .file.jpg

    I don't think Android's File Manager shows these hidden files, but I
    believe they're automatically removed after 30 days.
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    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 16:13:36 2025
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    On 29 Nov 2025 13:26:32 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:

    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app function. (I don't know which 'apps' other than (Windows) File Explorer
    use the Recycle Bin.)

    An advantage of the Android-type Trash is that it is timed, typically
    for 30 days, so after an item is deleted, it will be kept for 30 days.

    Do you know if one can change 30 days to something else?

    So my Windows Recycle Bin is nearly always empty, because I don't like cruft, but my Android Trash cans just empty themselves.

    I use Total Commander and delete them by hand. (I blame OCD.)

    (And yes, I of course saw and noted the smiley.)

    (-:
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    s|b
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 15:59:21 2025
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    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On 29 Nov 2025 13:26:32 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:

    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app function. (I don't know which 'apps' other than (Windows) File Explorer
    use the Recycle Bin.)

    An advantage of the Android-type Trash is that it is timed, typically
    for 30 days, so after an item is deleted, it will be kept for 30 days.

    Do you know if one can change 30 days to something else?

    That depends on the phone brand, Android version and app.

    For example for my Samsung (Android 16) phone, its (photo/video)
    'Gallery' app, it's fixed at 30 days. For the (Samsung) Messages app it
    was also 30 days, but now it's the Google 'Messages' and that only seems
    to have a permanent delete. The (Samsung) file manager 'My Files' has a
    30 day 'Trash'.

    BTW, apparently the (Samsung) Gallery and (Samsung) My Files apps
    share the same Trash can, because in the My Files Trash, I see the same
    files (photos) which are also shown in the Gallery Trash.

    So my Windows Recycle Bin is nearly always empty, because I don't like cruft, but my Android Trash cans just empty themselves.

    I use Total Commander and delete them by hand. (I blame OCD.)

    (And yes, I of course saw and noted the smiley.)

    (-:
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 12:04:55 2025
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    On 11/29/2025 8:26 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 18:01:41 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    There's a recycle bin on Android? o-:

    Yes, but it's called 'the Trash'. And like on Windows, it's a per-app function. (I don't know which 'apps' other than (Windows) File Explorer
    use the Recycle Bin.)

    An advantage of the Android-type Trash is that it is timed, typically
    for 30 days, so after an item is deleted, it will be kept for 30 days.

    So my Windows Recycle Bin is nearly always empty, because I don't like cruft, but my Android Trash cans just empty themselves.

    (And yes, I of course saw and noted the smiley.)
    On my Motorola G pure cellphone, in the Settings, I can see the and
    delete the amount of data in documents, images, apps, and trash. If I
    click Trash, and delete all of part.

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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 17:12:05 2025
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    On 11/29/25 8:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    my Samsung (Android 16) phone, its (photo/video)
    'Gallery' app, it's fixed at 30 days. For the (Samsung) Messages app it
    was also 30 days, but now it's the Google 'Messages' and that only seems
    to have a permanent delete. The (Samsung) file manager 'My Files' has a
    30 day 'Trash'.

    30 days seems to be the standard trash delete for all my stuff. Gmail,
    Samsung phone, my online Google Drive, my Chromebooks, this Chrome tablet,
    etc.

    BTW, apparently the (Samsung) Gallery and (Samsung) My Files apps
    share the same Trash can, because in the My Files Trash, I see the same
    files (photos) which are also shown in the Gallery Trash.

    On Chromebooks (and this tablet) the installed Files app has both local
    files and online Google Drive files and they also share the same trash bin.

    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years. Especially when
    I get pissed and delete something and then later have a change of heart.
    Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O


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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 19:44:26 2025
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    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years. Especially when
    I get pissed and delete something and then later have a change of heart.
    Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English speaking
    audience, don't you!? :-)
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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 19:54:48 2025
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    On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years. Especially when >> I get pissed and delete something and then later have a change of heart.
    Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English speaking
    audience, don't you!? :-)

    Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different in UK English? Clue
    me in...


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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 21:07:08 2025
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    Fokke Nauta, 2025-11-27 18:01:

    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    There is no "recycle bin" in Android. Only individual apps, like file
    managers or picture galleries may have such a thing, but that depends on
    the app.
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de
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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to comp.mobile.android on Sat Nov 29 13:57:34 2025
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    Arno Welzel wrote:
    My friend has a Samsung tablet with Android 11. We want to empty the
    recycle bin, but I can't find it. How can I find it?

    There is no "recycle bin" in Android. Only individual apps, like file managers or picture galleries may have such a thing, but that depends on
    the app.

    To always strive to add value...

    As many have stated already, there's only a per-app don't-delete-now but delete-it-later concept in Android, where if the goal is to free up space,
    one option is to use Device Care options (such as Settings > Battery and
    device care > Storage) to clear cached data and unnecessary files.

    While I hesitate to suggest "Files by Google" products, apparently it has a duplicate finder & a large-file-size finder with its built-in "Clean" tab.

    "Files by Google" also highlights unused apps and temporary files.

    If the team wants to flesh out non-Google cleaners, this suggests some.
    <https://www.techcommuters.com/duplicate-files-remover-apps-for-android/>
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sun Nov 30 10:52:33 2025
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    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years. Especially when
    I get pissed and delete something and then later have a change of heart. >> Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English speaking
    audience, don't you!? :-)

    Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different in UK English? Clue
    me in...

    "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."
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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to comp.mobile.android on Sun Nov 30 15:58:26 2025
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    On 11/30/25 3:52 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years. Especially when
    I get pissed and delete something and then later have a change of heart. >> >> Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English speaking
    audience, don't you!? :-)

    Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different in UK English? Clue >> me in...

    "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."

    Ah. Didn't know that. Thanks. Ok, for the UK English folks out there when I
    say I got pissed I meant I got mad. I actually shortened it from its proper
    term of pissed off. That might have helped the confusion? Anyway I'll try
    not to dick around next time. Gee I hope the word dick doesn't confuse
    things... 8-O


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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 13:31:00 2025
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    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/30/25 3:52 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years.
    Especially when I get pissed and delete something and then later
    have a change of heart.
    Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English speaking
    audience, don't you!? :-)

    Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different in UK English? Clue >> me in...

    "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."

    Ah. Didn't know that. Thanks. Ok, for the UK English folks out there when I
    say I got pissed I meant I got mad. I actually shortened it from its proper
    term of pissed off. That might have helped the confusion? Anyway I'll try
    not to dick around next time. Gee I hope the word dick doesn't confuse
    things... 8-O

    The UK English folks *do* use "pissed off", with the same meaning as
    yours, but without the " off" part, the difference is as I described.

    This is what the Google 'AI Overview' for a "pissed in UK English"
    search says:

    "In UK English, "pissed" means very drunk. To convey the meaning of
    being angry, British speakers say "pissed off". "

    Disclaimer: English is not my native language and Google's AI might be
    wrong.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 16:29:30 2025
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    On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 12:04:55 -0500, knuttle wrote:

    On my Motorola G pure cellphone, in the Settings, I can see the and
    delete the amount of data in documents, images, apps, and trash. If I
    click Trash, and delete all of part.

    Found it. In Dutch it's called 'Prullenbak'. On my Pixel 10:

    Settings > Storage > Trash

    I can also find it in Files.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePlDDEgaHrk>
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    s|b
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 17:43:03 2025
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    Frank Slootweg, 2025-12-01 14:31:

    [...]
    "In UK English, "pissed" means very drunk. To convey the meaning of
    being angry, British speakers say "pissed off". "

    Disclaimer: English is not my native language and Google's AI might be wrong.

    A real human living in UK for many years can confirm this ;-)
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de
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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 16:44:32 2025
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    On 12/1/25 6:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/30/25 3:52 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the years.
    Especially when I get pissed and delete something and then later
    have a change of heart.
    Like Usenet? Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English speaking
    audience, don't you!? :-)

    Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different in UK English? Clue
    me in...

    "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."

    Ah. Didn't know that. Thanks. Ok, for the UK English folks out there when I >> say I got pissed I meant I got mad. I actually shortened it from its proper >> term of pissed off. That might have helped the confusion? Anyway I'll try >> not to dick around next time. Gee I hope the word dick doesn't confuse
    things... 8-O

    The UK English folks *do* use "pissed off", with the same meaning as
    yours, but without the " off" part, the difference is as I described.

    This is what the Google 'AI Overview' for a "pissed in UK English"
    search says:

    "In UK English, "pissed" means very drunk. To convey the meaning of
    being angry, British speakers say "pissed off". "

    Disclaimer: English is not my native language and Google's AI might be
    wrong.

    I don't speak anything but English but I understand it's one of the hardest
    languages to learn. I have enough problems with it myself so I admire those
    of you that can speak it as a second language. I suppose the word piss
    (urinate), pissed (drunk or mad per Oxford), or pissed off (mad) is an
    example of it's complications.

    Anyway I now return this group to its regularly scheduled agenda...




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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 18:22:27 2025
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    On 30 Nov 2025 10:52:33 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."

    I prefer 'pished'.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 18:23:36 2025
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    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 16:44:32 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:

    I don't speak anything but English but I understand it's one of the hardest
    languages to learn.

    I've been told the same is being said about Dutch.
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    s|b
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 18:31:31 2025
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    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 16:44:32 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:

    I don't speak anything but English but I understand it's one of the hardest
    languages to learn.

    I've been told the same is being said about Dutch.

    We say "Dutch isn't a language, it's a throat disease!"

    But it's dead easy, even small children speak it! :-)
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Dec 1 21:08:39 2025
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    On 1 Dec 2025 18:31:31 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    We say "Dutch isn't a language, it's a throat disease!"

    But it's dead easy, even small children speak it! :-)

    håhå (-:
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    s|b
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 13:10:15 2025
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    On 2025-12-01 17:44, AJL wrote:
    On 12/1/25 6:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/30/25 3:52 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 12:44 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote: [...]
    The trash feature has saved me several times over the
    years. Especially when I get pissed and delete something
    and then later have a change of heart. Like Usenet?
    Nah... 8-O

    You *do* realise that this group also has some UK English
    speaking audience, don't you!? :-)
    Sorry, don't understand. Did I say something different
    in UK English? Clue me in...

    "when I get pissed..." -> "when I get very drunk..."

    Ah. Didn't know that. Thanks. Ok, for the UK English folks out
    there when I say I got pissed I meant I got mad. I actually
    shortened it from its proper term of pissed off. That might have
    helped the confusion? Anyway I'll try not to dick around next
    time. Gee I hope the word dick doesn't confuse things... 8-O

    The UK English folks *do* use "pissed off", with the same meaning
    as yours, but without the " off" part, the difference is as I
    described.

    This is what the Google 'AI Overview' for a "pissed in UK
    English" search says:

    "In UK English, "pissed" means very drunk. To convey the meaning
    of being angry, British speakers say "pissed off". "

    Disclaimer: English is not my native language and Google's AI
    might be wrong.

    I don't speak anything but English but I understand it's one of the
    hardest languages to learn. I have enough problems with it myself so
    I admire those of you that can speak it as a second language. I
    suppose the word piss (urinate), pissed (drunk or mad per Oxford),
    or pissed off (mad) is an example of it's complications.

    Anyway I now return this group to its regularly scheduled agenda...

    I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

    There are no declinations, no verbal forms, aside from the "s" on
    "he/she". Correct spelling is a bitch, though: we have to learn by heart
    both the spelling and the pronunciation of each word. They never
    bothered to try to teach us the rules.

    Yes, there are nuances as the same word having several different
    meaning. You can never learn it perfectly, there are subtle meaning that
    are really cultural.

    Still, it is a very viable language for international exchange. I tried
    to learn French as an adult, did not manage that well.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 14:53:32 2025
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    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 13:10:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

    I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
    German for 2 years and it was a PITA.

    There are no declinations, no verbal forms, aside from the "s" on
    "he/she". Correct spelling is a bitch, though: we have to learn by heart both the spelling and the pronunciation of each word. They never
    bothered to try to teach us the rules.

    Well, there's rules and then there's exception from the rules.

    Yes, there are nuances as the same word having several different
    meaning. You can never learn it perfectly, there are subtle meaning that
    are really cultural.

    Still, it is a very viable language for international exchange.

    That's what all Germans think. (-;

    I tried
    to learn French as an adult, did not manage that well.

    We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO
    it's easier than German.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 15:10:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2025-12-02 14:53, s|b wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 13:10:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

    I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
    German for 2 years and it was a PITA.

    There are no declinations, no verbal forms, aside from the "s" on
    "he/she". Correct spelling is a bitch, though: we have to learn by heart
    both the spelling and the pronunciation of each word. They never
    bothered to try to teach us the rules.

    Well, there's rules and then there's exception from the rules.

    Spanish has exact rules that can be written in a single page :-)
    We always know the exact correct pronunciation for a written word. The
    reverse is not true, there can be several spellings that sound the same,
    so we need a speller or dictionary (or memory).



    Yes, there are nuances as the same word having several different
    meaning. You can never learn it perfectly, there are subtle meaning that
    are really cultural.

    Still, it is a very viable language for international exchange.

    That's what all Germans think. (-;

    I tried
    to learn French as an adult, did not manage that well.

    We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO
    it's easier than German.

    It is easier at that age.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 14:56:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote or quoted:
    On 2025-12-02 14:53, s|b wrote:
    We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO >>it's easier than German.
    It is easier at that age.

    I'm a late self-taught learner of French myself. I can
    understand simple texts with no special vocabulary, but
    can't speak nor write myself.

    The "equal complexity hypothesis" claims that, in the end, all
    language have the same complexity. One language might have fewer
    word forms but makes up for this by a more complex grammar etc.

    Measured by the number of hours of instruction required
    to bring native English speakers to a certain level of
    proficiency, the simplest languages are French (indeed!),
    Afrikaans, Danish, Dutch, Haitian Creole, Italian, Norwegian,
    Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swahili, and Swedish.

    German is in the next, more difficult, group together with
    Bulgarian, Dari, Farsi (Persian), (Modern) Greek, Hindi-Urdu,
    Indonesian and Malay.

    But the list does not stop here, the third group has languages
    that are even more difficult than German: Amharic, Bengali,
    Burmese, Czech, Finnish, (Modern) Hebrew, Hungarian, Khmer
    (Cambodian), Lao, Nepali, Pilipino (Tagalog), Polish, Russian,
    Serbo-Croatian, Sinhala, Thai, Tamil, Turkish, and Vietnamese.

    And, finally, we have the most difficult languages of all
    (as far as languages were part of that survey): Arabic,
    Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.

    So, how much French can I understand?

    Well, I listened to TV shows, and whenever I got something,
    I wrote it down. So here are some French sentences I once understood
    listening to TV shows. (I would not have been able to write them down
    in correct French spelling, so I used a service for the writing.)

    Monsieur Data, vous prenez les commandes.

    Vous êtes capable de rire.

    Vous pouvez disposer. (Here, I actually got the meaning of
    "disposer" from the situation in the TV show.)

    Vous avez des raisons personnelles ?

    Ma mémoire fonctionne parfaitement bien.

    alimentation principale, alimentation de secours

    Je crois que maintenant ça marche.

    . . . (about 160 lines altogether)


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 16:57:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 02.12.25 14:53, s|b wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 13:10:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

    I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
    German for 2 years and it was a PITA.

    I tend to disagree. Basic English is easy to learn but a sophisticated
    let's say Shakespearian English is quite different.

    The real challenge for speakers of Germanic based languages are the
    Latin languages.

    Let me tell you that as someone living in a country with four languages.

    Bonne soirée!

    Jörg
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 17:01:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    s|b wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I do not find English particularly difficult. German is worse.

    I agree and my native language, Dutch, is related to German. I studied
    German for 2 years and it was a PITA.
    I heard that unless you grow up as a child in a Dutch speaking
    household, you may well learn the language, but will never get the
    phonetics right?

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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 20:37:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:57:07 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    I tend to disagree. Basic English is easy to learn but a sophisticated
    let's say Shakespearian English is quite different.

    Do people still speak that?

    The real challenge for speakers of Germanic based languages are the
    Latin languages.

    I studied Latin for 6 years, but this was only one way. Translations to
    Dutch. Still, a good base for learning Spanish.

    Let me tell you that as someone living in a country with four languages.

    That's one more than Belgium.

    Bonne soirée!

    Goeienavond!
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 20:48:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 17:01:56 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

    I heard that unless you grow up as a child in a Dutch speaking
    household, you may well learn the language, but will never get the
    phonetics right?

    I don't know. Children pick up new languages pretty easy. It's different
    for adults.

    I think Queen Maxima of the Netherlands speaks Dutch very well, better
    than the King an Queen of Belgium. They've got horrible French accents.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Dec 2 22:36:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2025-12-02 15:56, Stefan Ram wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote or quoted:
    On 2025-12-02 14:53, s|b wrote:
    We had to learn French from the age of 12 and then another 6 years. IMHO >>> it's easier than German.
    It is easier at that age.

    I'm a late self-taught learner of French myself. I can
    understand simple texts with no special vocabulary, but
    can't speak nor write myself.

    The "equal complexity hypothesis" claims that, in the end, all
    language have the same complexity. One language might have fewer
    word forms but makes up for this by a more complex grammar etc.

    Measured by the number of hours of instruction required
    to bring native English speakers to a certain level of
    proficiency, the simplest languages are French (indeed!),
    Afrikaans, Danish, Dutch, Haitian Creole, Italian, Norwegian,
    Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swahili, and Swedish.

    German is in the next, more difficult, group together with
    Bulgarian, Dari, Farsi (Persian), (Modern) Greek, Hindi-Urdu,
    Indonesian and Malay.

    But the list does not stop here, the third group has languages
    that are even more difficult than German: Amharic, Bengali,
    Burmese, Czech, Finnish, (Modern) Hebrew, Hungarian, Khmer
    (Cambodian), Lao, Nepali, Pilipino (Tagalog), Polish, Russian,
    Serbo-Croatian, Sinhala, Thai, Tamil, Turkish, and Vietnamese.

    And, finally, we have the most difficult languages of all
    (as far as languages were part of that survey): Arabic,
    Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.

    Interesting list!


    So, how much French can I understand?

    Well, I listened to TV shows, and whenever I got something,
    I wrote it down. So here are some French sentences I once understood
    listening to TV shows. (I would not have been able to write them down
    in correct French spelling, so I used a service for the writing.)

    Monsieur Data, vous prenez les commandes.

    Vous êtes capable de rire.

    Vous pouvez disposer. (Here, I actually got the meaning of
    "disposer" from the situation in the TV show.)

    Vous avez des raisons personnelles ?

    Ma mémoire fonctionne parfaitement bien.

    alimentation principale, alimentation de secours

    Je crois que maintenant ça marche.

    . . . (about 160 lines altogether)

    :-)


    I started to read "Vingt Mille Lieues sous les mers", but my teacher
    told me to stop, because I would get a bad pronunciation. However, it is
    what I did with English, reading first Enid Blyton then Agatha Christie.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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