The reality is: Nobody needs or wants RCS. Not really a surprise.
For those who speak German or know how to use a translator:
https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000281435/rcs-der-traum-vom-universellen-sms-nachfolger-scheint-in-oesterreich-ausgetraeumt
In Europe RCS never flew.
On 18.11.25 18:49, Andy Burns wrote:
Jörg Lorenz wrote:
The reality is: Nobody needs or wants RCS.
Those of us who won't touch WhatsApp use RCS, to and from friends with
both Android and iPhones, it works nicely thanks.
*LOL*
Companies still use SMS because ist is still unclear which provider
supports this useless Google stuff and which not.
Housewives and senior people prefer clearly WhatsApp.
On 20.11.25 23:14, AJL wrote:
On 11/20/25 2:18 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
The only region where MMS played a certain role and afaik still does are >>> the USA. God knows why.
In my case various members of my large family around the country (US) use
various modes (RCS/MMS/SMS). I'd probably miss out if Google Messages
didn't automatically handle it all for me. And with my provider it's
unlimited, no extra charges so I just sit back and enjoy the chatter...
My friends and relatives are scattered over the whole Western
Hemishphere and nobody uses either SMS or RCS.
On 21.11.25 07:34, AJL wrote:
On 11/20/25 11:09 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 20.11.25 23:14, AJL wrote:
On 11/20/25 2:18 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:My friends and relatives are scattered over the whole Western
The only region where MMS played a certain role and afaik still does are >>>>> the USA. God knows why.
In my case various members of my large family around the country (US) use >>>> various modes (RCS/MMS/SMS). I'd probably miss out if Google Messages >>>> didn't automatically handle it all for me. And with my provider it's >>>> unlimited, no extra charges so I just sit back and enjoy the chatter... >>>
Hemishphere and nobody uses either SMS or RCS.
YMMV...
Sure. Including the US btw.
it's a pity, if the chance to establish an alternative to
proprietary messengers is missed again.
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-18 16:56:
The reality is: Nobody needs or wants RCS. Not really a surprise.
I use it on a regular basis.
For those who speak German or know how to use a translator:
https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000281435/rcs-der-traum-vom-universellen-sms-nachfolger-scheint-in-oesterreich-ausgetraeumt
In Europe RCS never flew.
For me it did. But it's a pity, if the chance to establish an
alternative to proprietary messengers is missed again.
Arno Welzel wrote:
it's a pity, if the chance to establish an alternative to
proprietary messengers is missed again.
It's only Jörg that thinks RCS is dead ...
RCS is propriatary
Jörg Lorenz wrote:
RCS is propriatary
<https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/gsma_resources/rich-communication-suite-advanced-communications-services-and-client-specification-version-14-0>
The E2E encryption part *is* proprietary ...
On 24.11.25 19:21, Andy Burns wrote:
Jörg Lorenz wrote:
RCS is propriatary
<https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/
gsma_resources/rich-communication-suite-advanced-communications-
services-and-client-specification-version-14-0>
The E2E encryption part *is* proprietary ...
Bingo!
And that is exactly the part the user does not want to be proprietary
under no circumstances.
On 24.11.25 18:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Arno Welzel wrote:
it's a pity, if the chance to establish an alternative to
proprietary messengers is missed again.
It's only Jörg that thinks RCS is dead ...
*ROTFLSTC*
On 24.11.25 18:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-18 16:56:
The reality is: Nobody needs or wants RCS. Not really a surprise.
I use it on a regular basis.
For those who speak German or know how to use a translator:
https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000281435/rcs-der-traum-vom-universellen-sms-nachfolger-scheint-in-oesterreich-ausgetraeumt
In Europe RCS never flew.
For me it did. But it's a pity, if the chance to establish an
alternative to proprietary messengers is missed again.
*RCS is propriatary*
On 24.11.25 19:21, Andy Burns wrote:
Jörg Lorenz wrote:
RCS is propriatary
<https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/gsma_resources/rich-communication-suite-advanced-communications-services-and-client-specification-version-14-0>
The E2E encryption part *is* proprietary ...
Bingo!
And that is exactly the part the user does not want to be proprietary
under no circumstances.
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-24 18:59:
On 24.11.25 18:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-18 16:56:
The reality is: Nobody needs or wants RCS. Not really a surprise.
I use it on a regular basis.
For those who speak German or know how to use a translator:
https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000281435/rcs-der-traum-vom-universellen-sms-nachfolger-scheint-in-oesterreich-ausgetraeumt
In Europe RCS never flew.
For me it did. But it's a pity, if the chance to establish an
alternative to proprietary messengers is missed again.
*RCS is propriatary*
No, only the encryption part in the way how Google implemented it first:
<https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/rcs/>
I use RCS on a regular basis.
Housewives and senior people prefer clearly WhatsApp.
I don't even have a WhatsApp account.
On 2025-11-24 21:17, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 24.11.25 19:21, Andy Burns wrote:
Jörg Lorenz wrote:
RCS is propriatary
<https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/
gsma_resources/rich-communication-suite-advanced-communications-
services-and-client-specification-version-14-0>
The E2E encryption part *is* proprietary ...
Bingo!
And that is exactly the part the user does not want to be proprietary
under no circumstances.
That's no worse than WhatsApp.
On 24.11.25 21:57, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-11-24 21:17, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 24.11.25 19:21, Andy Burns wrote:
Jörg Lorenz wrote:
RCS is propriatary
<https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/
gsma_resources/rich-communication-suite-advanced-communications-
services-and-client-specification-version-14-0>
The E2E encryption part *is* proprietary ...
Bingo!
And that is exactly the part the user does not want to be proprietary
under no circumstances.
That's no worse than WhatsApp.
That is a comparison at the lowest possible level.
WhatsApp is for housewives and elderly people.
On 2025-11-25 03:38, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
That is a comparison at the lowest possible level.
WhatsApp is for housewives and elderly people.
You are nuts and out of contact with reality. WhatsAppp has a
penetration in Spain of 91% of the digital population. That's about 42 million users, out of a population of 49,442,844.
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-24 19:00:
On 24.11.25 18:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Arno Welzel wrote:
it's a pity, if the chance to establish an alternative to
proprietary messengers is missed again.
It's only Jörg that thinks RCS is dead ...
*ROTFLSTC*
You have a cat?
On 25.11.25 08:23, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-11-25 03:38, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
That is a comparison at the lowest possible level.
WhatsApp is for housewives and elderly people.
You are nuts and out of contact with reality. WhatsAppp has a
penetration in Spain of 91% of the digital population. That's about 42
million users, out of a population of 49,442,844.
Not using WhatsApp I do not miss a thing. I prefer iMessage, Threema,
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-26 11:53:
On 25.11.25 08:23, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-11-25 03:38, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
That is a comparison at the lowest possible level.
WhatsApp is for housewives and elderly people.
You are nuts and out of contact with reality. WhatsAppp has a
penetration in Spain of 91% of the digital population. That's about 42
million users, out of a population of 49,442,844.
[...]
Not using WhatsApp I do not miss a thing. I prefer iMessage, Threema,
You are completely missing the point. It's not about the question if
using WhatsApp is good or bad or neccessary but only about your claim,
that WhatsApp is only used by "housewives and elderly people". And this
claim is just bullshit.
You are completely missing the point. It's not about the question if
using WhatsApp is good or bad or neccessary but only about your claim,
that WhatsApp is only used by "housewives and elderly people". And this
claim is just bullshit.
You do not want to use WhatsApp? Fine, but you do have a problem; for example, the plumber that you asked to fix your dripping tap will ask
for a photo in WhatsApp of it. It is just a fact of life that here about everybody uses it.
On 27.11.25 23:25, Arno Welzel wrote:
You are completely missing the point. It's not about the question if
using WhatsApp is good or bad or neccessary but only about your claim,
that WhatsApp is only used by "housewives and elderly people". And this
claim is just bullshit.
And you understand exactly nothing: What you see is by no means what you
get.
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-11-28 03:34:
On 27.11.25 23:25, Arno Welzel wrote:
You are completely missing the point. It's not about the question if
using WhatsApp is good or bad or neccessary but only about your claim,
that WhatsApp is only used by "housewives and elderly people". And this
claim is just bullshit.
And you understand exactly nothing: What you see is by no means what you
get.
Well - I see, that WhatsApp is still used widely. I don't like this
either, but that's the reality.
Exactly.
Here it is used even by Swiss insurance companies. And banks.
You do not want to use WhatsApp? Fine, but you do have a problem; for example, the plumber that you asked to fix your dripping tap will ask
for a photo in WhatsApp of it. It is just a fact of life that here about everybody uses it.
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|---|---|
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| Users: | 1,090 |
| Nodes: | 10 (0 / 10) |
| Uptime: | 163:48:36 |
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