Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net>wrote:
Micro$oft is such a great OS that they've always needed sabotageand bribery to succeed:
<https://www.makeuseof.com/microsofts-windows-fake-error-ended-in-a-280-million-settlement/>
GNU/Linux, in sharp contrast, blazes forever forward ahead with superior >quality.
Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net>wrote:
Micro$oft is such a great OS that they've always needed sabotage
and bribery to succeed:
<https://www.makeuseof.com/microsofts-windows-fake-error-ended-in-a-280-million-settlement/>
GNU/Linux, in sharp contrast, blazes forever forward ahead with superior quality.
I have read that these days Microsoft has shares in hardware
companies and making ever more bloated software forces people
to buy ever more powerful hardware...
All about dollars..
Who needs Microsoft? I do not need it, and with US listening
in / having a say in it, it is probably a security risk.
I have read that these days Microsoft has shares in hardware
companies and making ever more bloated software forces people to buy
ever more powerful hardware...
I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi 4 8 GB with a 4 TB Toshibaba
harddisc connected.
Nothing I cannot do raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a Linux raspberrypi
5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
2022 ? what's new?
I think it is running Debian If I need something I write the code and
open source it:
Much of that “jarring” comes from the fact that the whole Windows environment is inherently unsuited to command-line operation, and
Microsoft can’t seem to do anything about that.
On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 21:52:32 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Much of that “jarring” comes from the fact that the whole Windows
environment is inherently unsuited to command-line operation, and
Microsoft can’t seem to do anything about that.
Funny, I've been mostly using cmd on Windows for years with gVim as my primary editor. I will admit the relatively new Windows Terminal is nice.
I can have a couple of Windows tabs and a tab for the WSL instance. About all I do in PowerShell is copypasta stuff I usually don't understand.
I found a collection of Unix-style utilities (ls, grep, cut, uniq,
etc.) years ago. The .EXEs' date stamps range from 1999 to 2003.
They're enough for me to sort of pretend I'm using real tools,
rather than CMD.EXE's brain-damaged not-quite-equivalents.
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 00:03:42 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
I found a collection of Unix-style utilities (ls, grep, cut, uniq,
etc.) years ago. The .EXEs' date stamps range from 1999 to 2003.
They're enough for me to sort of pretend I'm using real tools, rather
than CMD.EXE's brain-damaged not-quite-equivalents.
Thinking about it, instead of trying to graft Linux-style functionality
onto the Windows command line, why don’t they just have a desktop menu option that says “Open Linux Terminal”. This will directly open window offering a native Linux command line, where you can have full access to
the Linux environment without having to go through any cumbersome kind
of Windows-based intermediary at all.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 15:26:45 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi 4 8 GB with a 4 TB Toshibaba
harddisc connected.
Nothing I cannot do raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a Linux raspberrypi
5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
2022 ? what's new?
I think it is running Debian If I need something I write the code and
open source it:
I'm running a Pi 5 with the Raspberry Pi OS which is Debian based. uname >shows a 6.18 kernel and 06/09/2026. Right now it's running a weather page.
Temperature: 81.7 F
Humidity: 36.0%
Outside Temperature: 69.8 F
Outside Humidity: 52.8%
The inside temperature comes from a DHT11 and I scrape the NWS site for
the current outside temperature and humidity. I thought it felt a little >stuffy, but it has been in the 50s and raining so I closed the windows.
Time for some natural AC.
I definitely could use it for my main machine in a pinch. I bought it
before the prices went crazy.
Thinking about it, instead of trying to graft Linux-style
functionality onto the Windows command line, why don’t they just have
a desktop menu option that says “Open Linux Terminal”. This will
directly open window offering a native Linux command line, where you
can have full access to the Linux environment without having to go
through any cumbersome kind of Windows-based intermediary at all.
On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 00:03:42 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
I found a collection of Unix-style utilities (ls, grep, cut, uniq,
etc.) years ago. The .EXEs' date stamps range from 1999 to 2003.
They're enough for me to sort of pretend I'm using real tools, rather
than CMD.EXE's brain-damaged not-quite-equivalents.
Thinking about it, instead of trying to graft Linux-style functionality
onto the Windows command line, why don’t they just have a desktop menu
option that says “Open Linux Terminal”. This will directly open window >> offering a native Linux command line, where you can have full access to
the Linux environment without having to go through any cumbersome kind
of Windows-based intermediary at all.
You mean the pulldown in Windows Terminal that says fedora and when you select it you're in Fedora? Have you ever used Windows or do you just
bitch about it?
On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 00:03:42 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
I found a collection of Unix-style utilities (ls, grep, cut, uniq,
etc.) years ago. The .EXEs' date stamps range from 1999 to 2003.
They're enough for me to sort of pretend I'm using real tools, rather
than CMD.EXE's brain-damaged not-quite-equivalents.
Thinking about it, instead of trying to graft Linux-style functionality
onto the Windows command line, why don’t they just have a desktop menu
option that says “Open Linux Terminal”. This will directly open window >> offering a native Linux command line, where you can have full access to
the Linux environment without having to go through any cumbersome kind
of Windows-based intermediary at all.
You mean the pulldown in Windows Terminal that says fedora and when you select it you're in Fedora? Have you ever used Windows or do you just
bitch about it?
I think we all know the answer to *that* question.Thinking about it, instead of trying to graft Linux-style
functionality onto the Windows command line, why don’t they just
have a desktop menu option that says “Open Linux Terminal”. This
will directly open window offering a native Linux command line,
where you can have full access to the Linux environment without
having to go through any cumbersome kind of Windows-based
intermediary at all.
You mean the pulldown in Windows Terminal that says fedora and when
you select it you're in Fedora? Have you ever used Windows or do you
just bitch about it?
They do, that’s what WSL is.
On 7/1/26 00:54, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:48:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 00:03:42 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
I found a collection of Unix-style utilities (ls, grep, cut, uniq,
etc.) years ago. The .EXEs' date stamps range from 1999 to 2003.
They're enough for me to sort of pretend I'm using real tools, rather
than CMD.EXE's brain-damaged not-quite-equivalents.
Thinking about it, instead of trying to graft Linux-style
functionality onto the Windows command line, why don’t they just have
a desktop menu option that says “Open Linux Terminal”. This will
directly open window offering a native Linux command line, where you
can have full access to the Linux environment without having to go
through any cumbersome kind of Windows-based intermediary at all.
You mean the pulldown in Windows Terminal that says fedora and when you
select it you're in Fedora? Have you ever used Windows or do you just
bitch about it?
Well, I wouldn't encourage anyone, EVER, to use Winders :-)
Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
Well, I wouldn't encourage anyone, EVER, to use Winders 🙂That's fine if you're not a working programmer.
In my Amiga days I got hold of an Amiga port of Samba, which
enabled me to access files on a Windows machine. Part of a
software update for Windows 2000 was a patch which made Windows
boxes send an invalid command to SMB boxes to which it was
connecting, and checking the response. If it wasn't exactly
what a Windows box would return, it would refuse to connect.
It took the Amiga gurus only two or three days to come up
with a fix for that one.
rbowman <bowmqan@montana.com>wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a >RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.
rbowman <bowmqan@montana.com>wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a
RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.
A cheap Nexus temperature and humidity sensor that hangs outside,
als has an inside box with diplay
Using:
rtl_433 -p 40 -R19 | weather sensor_to_xgpspc;
The -p is the frequency correction for the RTL stick.
For plane traffic I use dump1090, from this script:
raspberrypi: # cat /usr/local/send_planes_to_xgpspc
#!/bin/bash
#echo "Usage: send_planes_to_xgpspc device_number"
#echo "default device_number is 0"
if [ "$1" == "" ]
then
let device_number=0
else
device_number="$1"
fi
#echo "device_number=$device_number"
#dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %sN %sE\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | tee planes13.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
#dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | tee /root/planes.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
dump1090 --device-index $device_number --metric --interactive | \
grep -v -e ---- -e Flight | \
awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | \
tee /dev/stderr | \
netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
=================================
This sends the planes info to Raspbery with IP address 192.168.178.73 that runs 'xgpspc' using netcat
netcat is cool for communication between ethernet connected stuff
Some have multitasking operating systems .. I also use computers for several tasks. :-)
Easy with those cheap Raspberries.
For air pressure I use a chip that is mounted on a raspi 'hat' I build,
that hat also holds compass and attitude chips:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/raspi_add_on_compass_accelerometer_pressure_GPS_interface_IMG_4949.JPG
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote:
On 7/2/26 02:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
rbowman <bowmqan@montana.com>wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick >>>> and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a
RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.
A cheap Nexus temperature and humidity sensor that hangs outside,
als has an inside box with diplay
Using:
rtl_433 -p 40 -R19 | weather sensor_to_xgpspc;
The -p is the frequency correction for the RTL stick.
For plane traffic I use dump1090, from this script:
raspberrypi: # cat /usr/local/send_planes_to_xgpspc
#!/bin/bash
#echo "Usage: send_planes_to_xgpspc device_number"
#echo "default device_number is 0"
if [ "$1" == "" ]
then
let device_number=0
else
device_number="$1"
fi
#echo "device_number=$device_number"
#dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %sN %sE\n", $1, $2, $3, $4,
$5, $6}' | tee planes13.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
#dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4,
$5, $6}' | tee /root/planes.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
dump1090 --device-index $device_number --metric --interactive | \
grep -v -e ---- -e Flight | \
awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | \
tee /dev/stderr | \
netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
=================================
This sends the planes info to Raspbery with IP address 192.168.178.73 that runs 'xgpspc' using netcat
netcat is cool for communication between ethernet connected stuff
Some have multitasking operating systems .. I also use computers for several tasks. :-)
Easy with those cheap Raspberries.
For air pressure I use a chip that is mounted on a raspi 'hat' I build,
that hat also holds compass and attitude chips:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/raspi_add_on_compass_accelerometer_pressure_GPS_interface_IMG_4949.JPG
Hmm ... interesting link. Don't NEED the positional
stuff for anything now, but temperature/pressure/RH
might be of value.
Yea, there ARE individual modules, SPI,I2C,1W, but an
all-in-one can save a lot of time.
Made a bunch of 1W temp sensors with the Dallas chip
embedded in an epoxy-filled little tube. You can kinda
buy those, now.
Note : you wrap the DS "chip" in metal-foil tape and
leave one end kinda free. Then put the thing into the
little metal tube and squeeze in the epoxy. The free
end will gravitate to the wall of the enclosing tube,
fair thermal bond.
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