• Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT !

    From bonkmaykr@bonkymaykr@canithesis.org to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Jul 4 00:40:37 2026
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    c186282 wrote:
    WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED ???
    Someone decided politics and publicity were more important than
    developing the software, and the only people left to work on SUSE are
    now performative RedHat elitists.
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    *bonkmaykr*
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Jul 4 05:46:45 2026
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    On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 00:40:37 -0500, bonkmaykr wrote:

    Someone decided politics and publicity were more important than
    developing the software, and the only people left to work on SUSE
    are now performative RedHat elitists.

    So what happened to the people developing the software?
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  • From Marc Haber@mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Jul 4 10:59:27 2026
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    Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 00:40:37 -0500, bonkmaykr wrote:

    Someone decided politics and publicity were more important than
    developing the software, and the only people left to work on SUSE
    are now performative RedHat elitists.

    So what happened to the people developing the software?

    If you want a Distribution without commercial background, use Debian.

    Greetings
    Marc
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Jul 4 23:43:43 2026
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    On Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:59:27 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

    Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 00:40:37 -0500, bonkmaykr wrote:

    Someone decided politics and publicity were more important than
    developing the software, and the only people left to work on SUSE
    are now performative RedHat elitists.

    So what happened to the people developing the software?

    If you want a Distribution without commercial background, use
    Debian.

    The point being, that person complaining abut SUSE is another of these
    armchair critics who loves how to complain about Free Software
    projects not catering to their particular needs.

    To paraphrase JFK: “Ask not what Free Software can do for you, ask
    what you can do for Free Software”.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Jul 5 01:59:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 7/4/26 19:43, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:59:27 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

    Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 00:40:37 -0500, bonkmaykr wrote:

    Someone decided politics and publicity were more important than
    developing the software, and the only people left to work on SUSE
    are now performative RedHat elitists.

    So what happened to the people developing the software?

    If you want a Distribution without commercial background, use
    Debian.

    The point being, that person complaining abut SUSE is another of these armchair critics who loves how to complain about Free Software
    projects not catering to their particular needs.

    No, I don't love it AT ALL.

    I just remember when it used to be Much Better and
    now wonder What The Fuck Has Happened. I thought
    'tools' and 'AI' were supposed to make code better,
    right ?

    Sorry, but I've become too old now to spend days
    or weeks pumped on caf digging through endless
    undocumented config files and trying to read
    somebody's crappy 'C' to fix some little problems
    that fuck up everything. Soon Linux will NOT be
    a viable M$/Apple alt system anymore. The days
    of being an 'experimental' system should be over.

    Maybe somebody is helping along the shittification
    of Linux ... ???

    To paraphrase JFK: “Ask not what Free Software can do for you, ask
    what you can do for Free Software”.

    I've done my bit. Now I want some *return* on
    my investment instead of just a bigger and
    bigger shit heap.

    Bound to be a 2010 ISO of OpenSUSE around ... maybe
    that's the best tact eh ? :-)

    Still some hope in the BSDs ... not as pretty, but
    they do what they do quite well.

    As for the 'C' these days, LOOK at it ... still
    see unbounded unchecked I/O fields like from
    the 1980s. I mean WHY would anyone put more than
    ten bytes into a ten byte field ?

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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Jul 5 13:32:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 2026-07-05 07:59, c186282 wrote:
    On 7/4/26 19:43, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 04 Jul 2026 10:59:27 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

    Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 00:40:37 -0500, bonkmaykr wrote:

    Someone decided politics and publicity were more important than
    developing the software, and the only people left to work on SUSE
    are now performative RedHat elitists.

    So what happened to the people developing the software?

    If you want a Distribution without commercial background, use
    Debian.

    The point being, that person complaining abut SUSE is another of these
    armchair critics who loves how to complain about Free Software
    projects not catering to their particular needs.

      No, I don't love it AT ALL.

      I just remember when it used to be Much Better and
      now wonder What The Fuck Has Happened. I thought
      'tools' and 'AI' were supposed to make code better,
      right ?

      Sorry, but I've become too old now to spend days
      or weeks pumped on caf digging through endless
      undocumented config files and trying to read
      somebody's crappy 'C' to fix some little problems
      that fuck up everything. Soon Linux will NOT be
      a viable M$/Apple alt system anymore. The days
      of being an 'experimental' system should be over.

      Maybe somebody is helping along the shittification
      of Linux ... ???

    I am using right now openSUSE Leap 16.0 without a problem.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Jul 5 19:07:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 13:32:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    I am using right now openSUSE Leap 16.0 without a problem.

    I replaced EndeavourOS on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. So far it has been trouble free without the Endeavour quirks. I'm using KDE both on SUSE and Fedora. SUSE has older versions of the kernel, Plasma, konsole and so
    forth but nothing that affects me.

    The only snag was VirtualBox. Once again, that was an experiment after
    reading C123456's posts and I personally have no interest in running VB. virt-manager works fine.

    Python on SUSE is 3.13 versus 3.14 on Fedora and Ubuntu 26.04 but that's
    not a problem either. I haven't tried lately but there were some libraries that didn't support 3.14 so that initially was a bug rather than a
    feature.


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