• New night mare Linux distros approach!!! Origami 2026.06 review inlast DistroWatch Weekly Issue 1167

    From jmj@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Wed Apr 8 17:46:03 2026
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    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Apr 8 12:45:05 2026
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    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


    1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

    2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
    to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

    3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
    run their distro (and half my computing is
    on PIs these days anyhow).

    You can build perfectly good and secure servers
    on top of vanilla Debian, Arch derivs or even
    Centos (if you can stand the Gnome DT (I can't))
    or some of the BSDs. In short the world doesn't
    need Origami or their weird schemes.

    But then everybody thinks they have the Better Plan.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Wed Apr 8 21:04:24 2026
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    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 17:46:03 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>

    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will automatically upgrade to running it next week!
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  • From jmj@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 00:52:58 2026
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    W dniu 8.04.2026 o 23:04, Lawrence D’Oliveiro pisze:
    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat

    This is only half true: Since 2018-10-28, sun. Fedora belongs to evil
    IBM corpo, which made German concentration camps available.

    There is not so bad Jewish book about IBM and III Reich business:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust>

    , but the book leave important/basic questions without answers. For eg.:
    1. Why there is only one photograph IBM machine in whole book?
    2. Why the photograph of IBM machine is silly described?
    3. Why lack in the book complete photograph catalogue all IBM machines
    used in concentration camps in III Reich?
    4. Why lack in the book complete catalogue with description about all
    tasks can be performed by IBM machines used in concentration camps in
    III Reich?
    5. Why lack in the book description how IBM machines were used every day
    by concentration camps SS staff?
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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Wed Apr 8 22:55:03 2026
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    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company. He doesn't
    have the brains to program. Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    What GNU/Linux requires is APPLICATIONS, but neither Poettering
    nor RedHat could ever deliver.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 11:46:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 08/04/2026 23:55, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will
    automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company. He doesn't
    have the brains to program. Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    And that's why he now works for Microsoft


    What GNU/Linux requires is APPLICATIONS, but neither Poettering
    nor RedHat could ever deliver.

    --
    WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 07:58:49 2026
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    On Thu, 4/9/2026 6:46 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 08/04/2026 23:55, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will
    automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company.  He doesn't
    have the brains to program.  Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    And that's why he now works for Microsoft

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering

    Poettering worked for Red Hat from 2008 to 2022.[2][3]

    He then joined Microsoft.[4][5][6][7]

    In 2026, Poettering left Microsoft to cofound Amutable, <===
    a company focused on integrity verification for Linux systems.[8][9]

    And the review, is of the distro from Amutable.

    Based on the three reviews on the Distrowatch page,
    I would guess the "engine" of the OS is what they worked
    on first. The rest of what you would want in a distro
    is left for later.

    https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=origami

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 14:07:54 2026
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    On 2026-04-09 00:55, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will
    automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company. He doesn't
    have the brains to program. Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    Sure. Testified by the many people that have created working
    alternatives or improved existing alternatives.


    What GNU/Linux requires is APPLICATIONS, but neither Poettering
    nor RedHat could ever deliver.


    LOL.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 23:04:00 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 14:07:54 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    On 2026-04-09 00:55, Distro Lackey wrote:

    Systemd is a piddling accomplishment that could have equaled by any
    script kiddy.

    Sure. Testified by the many people that have created working
    alternatives or improved existing alternatives.

    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.

    <https://github.com/InitWare/InitWare>
    <https://github.com/Jamesits/SvcGuest>
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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 01:01:10 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    Systemd is useful only to those who can't do anything for themselves,
    i.e. a distro lackey.

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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 05:51:06 2026
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    At Wed, 8 Apr 2026 17:46:03 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote:

    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>

    Why do you nutzos think people will want such a monstrosity?

    ObReply:

    I saw your comments, DFS, just haven't gotten caught up with
    this group yet.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 10:39:58 2026
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    On 2026-04-10 03:01, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    Systemd is useful only to those who can't do anything for themselves,
    i.e. a distro lackey.


    Yeah, sure.
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    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 08:56:19 2026
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    At Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:39:58 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-04-10 03:01, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    Systemd is useful only to those who can't do anything for themselves,
    i.e. a distro lackey.


    Yeah, sure.

    Word on the street is that he ripped off his "personal init system"
    from LFS.

    Loopy Larry also runs his system with no cgroups, MAC, or security
    mitigations in his kernel. Indeed, he's apparently never heard
    of sysctl(8). I don't think he's as familiar with Linux as he
    plays at...

    He also can't build vanilla kernels and run them, because he
    relies on his distro to feed him his kernels. Nom-nom-nom,
    just like a "distro lackey" should...
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Apr 11 12:27:03 2026
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    On 4/9/2026 12:45 AM, c186282 wrote:

    3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
    run their distro (and half my computing is
    on PIs these days anyhow).

    You can build perfectly good and secure servers
    on top of vanilla Debian, Arch derivs or even
    Centos (if you can stand the Gnome DT (I can't))
    or some of the BSDs. In short the world doesn't
    need Origami or their weird schemes.

    Wanna bring in FreeBSD to compare? :)
    --

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    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Apr 11 06:46:05 2026
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    On Sat, 11 Apr 2026 12:27:03 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Wanna bring in FreeBSD to compare? :)

    No smiley. Somebody already did that.

    Chapter 1 <https://www.zdnet.com/article/freebsd-linux-review/>, full
    of effusive praise:

    Sure, I talk a lot about how reliable Debian is, but even Debian
    can't touch the stability of FreeBSD.

    Chapter 2 <https://www.zdnet.com/article/freebsd-linux-review/>,
    enthusiasm waning ever so slightly:

    Once you get FreeBSD up and running, you can absolutely rely on
    it.

    Getting it up and running is the issue.

    and

    However, upon glancing at the start menu, there were very few apps
    installed. So, I fired up KDE Discover, only to find out it
    wouldn't work. The reason for this is PackageKit, an open-source
    software suite that simplifies the installation and management of
    software packages on Linux systems. Simplify, being the operative
    word.

    Unfortunately, PackageKit continually crashed, so KDE Discover was
    useless, and all app installations had to be done via the command
    line. Given I'm very comfortable with the command line, that's
    perfectly fine.

    On a whim, I installed GNOME, but the GDM login manager wouldn't
    start, so I stuck with KDE Plasma.

    Then finally, Chapter 3 <https://www.zdnet.com/article/best-linux-server-distros-for-your-home-lab/>:

    The primary reason I would recommend Debian as your server OS is
    its legendary stability. There simply is not a more stable OS on
    the planet. Some people might argue that Slackware is more stable
    because of its Unix-like nature. I say this call is too close to
    make, but either OS is solid. However, Debian is easier to use.

    No more mention of FreeBSD at all ...
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  • From Woozy Song@suzyw0ng@outlook.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 16:00:27 2026
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    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


      1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

      2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
         to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

      3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
         run their distro (and half my computing is
         on PIs these days anyhow).


    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 08:03:04 2026
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    Woozy Song wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


       1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

       2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
          to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

       3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
          run their distro (and half my computing is
          on PIs these days anyhow).


    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.

    figures
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 14:40:53 2026
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    c186282 wrote:

    ??Jacek Marcin Jaworski?? wrote:

    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>

    Good review, even though he clearly doesn't like it.

    1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

    2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
    to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

    3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
    run their distro (and half my computing is
    on PIs these days anyhow).

    You can build perfectly good and secure servers
    on top of vanilla Debian, Arch derivs or even
    Centos (if you can stand the Gnome DT (I can't))
    or some of the BSDs. In short the world doesn't
    need Origami or their weird schemes.

    But then everybody thinks they have the Better Plan.

    It probably is a Better Plan, for some subset of the market. As the
    reviewer says, this distro "underlines how important it is to have
    multiple distributions in the world. Not only because I very much want
    to use an operating system which is the polar opposite of Origami
    Linux, but also because I'm aware there are probably lots of people in
    the world who will be delighted to have a bleeding-edge,
    Flatpak-focused, Wayland-powered, immutable, build-optimized
    distribution. People should have the freedom to choose what they want,
    whether I like it or not. Just as I would like to have options which
    match my workflow and preferences."
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    two int comparisons on each iteration of the loop" - "DFS", putting
    his ignorance on display
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 17:45:32 2026
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    On 4/16/26 11:03, % wrote:
    Woozy Song wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


       1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

       2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
          to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

       3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
          run their distro (and half my computing is
          on PIs these days anyhow).


    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.

    figures

    They work !

    And fairly low-end laptops and PIs do everything I need
    these days. Don't do video games. Don't do 8k streaming.
    Not running a corporate web server.

    Still have a working Core2-Quad ... and it runs quite
    well with Linux. WILL run 8/16 bit apps, you can boot
    CP/M-86. Also has plugs for floppies on board. A keeper.

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