• Re: OT: US administration "yes people"

    From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 08:09:11 2026
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    On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:00:40 +0000, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    Let us not forget that the British citizens most affected by Brexit,
    that is to say ones who didn't live in the UK, were denied the vote.
    That was probably illegal, but I don't know if it was ever taken to
    court.

    The seems to have converted at least some ex-pats into immigrants.

    I know a Brit couple whose work took them to Cyprus, and after Brexit the became Cypriot citizens.
    --
    Steve Hayes http://khanya.wordpress.com
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 10:30:59 2026
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    On 23/06/2026 09:09, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:00:40 +0000, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    Let us not forget that the British citizens most affected by Brexit,
    that is to say ones who didn't live in the UK, were denied the vote.
    That was probably illegal, but I don't know if it was ever taken to
    court.

    My sister hasn't lived in Britain since 1964. She has a German passport.
    She expected to be able to vote.


    The seems to have converted at least some ex-pats into immigrants.

    I know a Brit couple whose work took them to Cyprus, and after Brexit the became Cypriot citizens.

    One example doesn't make a trend.


    Its sad how peole cannot accept that they were lied to by the EU and the
    BBC and that actually brexit, *once its taken proper advantage of* will
    be the saviour of the UK.
    --
    The difference bweteen a psychopath and a saint is that the psychpoath
    takes what he can and gives only what he must, but the saint gives
    everything he can and takes only what he needs.



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  • From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 10:51:52 2026
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    Ar an tríú lá is fiche de mí Meitheamh, scríobh The Natural Philosopher:

    [...] Its sad how peole cannot accept that they were lied to by the EU and the BBC and that actually brexit, *once its taken proper advantage of* will be the saviour of the UK.

    The real existing Brexit of today is not what Marx^H^H^H^H Farage wanted, clearly Brexiting harder will fix that country.
    --
    ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
    (C. Moore)
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 12:00:24 2026
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    On 2026-06-23 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 09:09, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:00:40 +0000, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    Let us not forget that the British citizens most affected by Brexit,
    that is to say ones who didn't live in the UK, were denied the vote.
    That was probably illegal, but I don't know if it was ever taken to
    court.

    My sister hasn't lived in Britain since 1964. She has a German passport.
    She expected to be able to vote.


    The seems to have converted at least some ex-pats into immigrants.

    I know a Brit couple whose work took them to Cyprus, and after Brexit the
    became Cypriot citizens.

    One example doesn't make a trend.

    «According to data cited from Spain's Immigration Observatory and
    Eurostat, about 2,363 British citizens acquired Spanish nationality
    between the 2016 Brexit referendum and 2023.»

    <https://www.thelocal.es/20250310/why-its-no-surprise-so-few-brits-have-applied-for-spanish-citizenship-since-brexit>

    «Across Europe, more than 120,000 Britons became citizens of European countries after the Brexit vote, but Spain accounted for only a small
    share of those naturalisations.»

    «The low number is often attributed to Spain's nationality rules, which generally require naturalising Britons to formally renounce their
    previous nationality, making Spanish citizenship less attractive than citizenship in countries that broadly allow dual nationality.»


    Its sad how peole cannot accept that they were lied to by the EU and the
    BBC and that actually brexit, *once its taken proper advantage of* will
    be the saviour of the UK.

    LOL

    About 60% of Britons now would vote against Brexit.

    <https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/10-years-brexit-vote-majority-britons-would-vote-apply-rejoin-eu>

    <https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/majority-britons-disappointed-by-brexit-according-ecfr-poll-2026-06-21/>
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 11:03:48 2026
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    On 23/06/2026 10:51, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    Ar an tríú lá is fiche de mí Meitheamh, scríobh The Natural Philosopher:

    > [...] Its sad how peole cannot accept that they were lied to by the EU and
    > the BBC and that actually brexit, *once its taken proper advantage of* will
    > be the saviour of the UK.

    The real existing Brexit of today is not what Marx^H^H^H^H Farage wanted, clearly Brexiting harder will fix that country.

    Oh dear,. Farage is a conservative. A pragmatist.
    We left the EU because it prevented us from doing what we needed to do.
    Now it is only the politicians themselves who are doing that.
    That will change.
    We (and the EU) will get the brexit we voted for - for better or for worse.
    --
    Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!



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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 11:06:14 2026
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    On 23/06/2026 11:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-06-23 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 09:09, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:00:40 +0000, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    Let us not forget that the British citizens most affected by Brexit,
    that is to say ones who didn't live in the UK, were denied the vote.
    That was probably illegal, but I don't know if it was ever taken to
    court.

    My sister hasn't lived in Britain since 1964. She has a German
    passport. She expected to be able to vote.


    The seems to have converted at least some ex-pats into immigrants.

    I know a Brit couple whose work took them to Cyprus, and after Brexit
    the
    became Cypriot citizens.

    One example doesn't make a trend.

    «According to data cited from Spain's Immigration Observatory and
    Eurostat, about 2,363 British citizens acquired Spanish nationality
    between the 2016 Brexit referendum and 2023.»

    <https://www.thelocal.es/20250310/why-its-no-surprise-so-few-brits-have-applied-for-spanish-citizenship-since-brexit>

    «Across Europe, more than 120,000 Britons became citizens of European countries after the Brexit vote, but Spain accounted for only a small
    share of those naturalisations.»

    «The low number is often attributed to Spain's nationality rules, which generally require naturalising Britons to formally renounce their
    previous nationality, making Spanish citizenship less attractive than citizenship in countries that broadly allow dual nationality.»


    Its sad how peole cannot accept that they were lied to by the EU and
    the BBC and that actually brexit, *once its taken proper advantage of*
    will be the saviour of the UK.

    LOL

    About 60% of Britons now would vote against Brexit.

    <https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/10-years-brexit-vote-majority-britons-would-vote-apply-rejoin-eu>

    <https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/majority-britons-disappointed-by-brexit-according-ecfr-poll-2026-06-21/>


    Brainwashing works
    However an overwhelming majority would not vote to return to the EU.
    --
    “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism
    (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
    about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
    the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
    'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
    a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
    rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
    things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
    you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.”

    Vaclav Klaus

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Tue Jun 23 22:57:23 2026
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    On 23/06/2026 11:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 11:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-06-23 11:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 23/06/2026 09:09, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:00:40 +0000, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    Let us not forget that the British citizens most affected by Brexit, >>>>> that is to say ones who didn't live in the UK, were denied the vote. >>>>> That was probably illegal, but I don't know if it was ever taken to
    court.

    My sister hasn't lived in Britain since 1964. She has a German
    passport. She expected to be able to vote.


    The seems to have converted at least some ex-pats into immigrants.

    I know a Brit couple whose work took them to Cyprus, and after
    Brexit the
    became Cypriot citizens.

    One example doesn't make a trend.

    «According to data cited from Spain's Immigration Observatory and
    Eurostat, about 2,363 British citizens acquired Spanish nationality
    between the 2016 Brexit referendum and 2023.»

    <https://www.thelocal.es/20250310/why-its-no-surprise-so-few-brits-
    have-applied-for-spanish-citizenship-since-brexit>

    «Across Europe, more than 120,000 Britons became citizens of European
    countries after the Brexit vote, but Spain accounted for only a small
    share of those naturalisations.»

    «The low number is often attributed to Spain's nationality rules,
    which generally require naturalising Britons to formally renounce
    their previous nationality, making Spanish citizenship less attractive
    than citizenship in countries that broadly allow dual nationality.»


    Its sad how peole cannot accept that they were lied to by the EU and
    the BBC and that actually brexit, *once its taken proper advantage
    of* will be the saviour of the UK.

    LOL

    About 60% of Britons now would vote against Brexit.

    <https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/10-years-brexit-vote-majority-britons-
    would-vote-apply-rejoin-eu>

    <https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/majority-britons-disappointed-by-
    brexit-according-ecfr-poll-2026-06-21/>


    Brainwashing works
    However an overwhelming majority would not vote to return to the EU.

    As with the withdrawal from the EU, people in favour of withdrawal
    seemed to forget/ignore the fact that EU members had a vote on what
    happened. The same applies to any proposed rejoining - but with nobs on.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Wed Jun 24 11:33:32 2026
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    On 23/06/2026 22:57, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    As with the withdrawal from the EU, people in favour of withdrawal
    seemed to forget/ignore the fact that EU members had a vote on what happened.

    Not directly.

    The only people who had any power was the EU commission, and their fully
    paid up puppets in the UK government, who have done everything in their
    power to destroy and independent Britain in order to coerce a population
    back into being re colonised.,

    The same applies to any proposed rejoining - but with nobs on.

    Indeed, and they will exact such a high price that it will never
    happen,. Britain would lose sterling for a start. The United Kingdom
    would cease to exist and become merely Wales Scotland, England and
    Northern Ireland, simple provincial parliaments under EU control

    Britain would be flooded with any immigrants the EU wanted to get rid of.

    Oh people may *think* they want to rejoin the EU, but they have no idea
    what that would actually mean.
    --
    There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do
    that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Jun 29 07:27:32 2026
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    On Wed, 01 Apr 2026 18:01:46 +0200, Andreas Eder wrote:

    On Do 26 Mär 2026 at 22:38, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    Ar an séú lá is fiche de mí Márta, scríobh Snidely:

    Common Lisp is the only language I have had dealings with where I
    am happy and convinced that the people making the design decisions
    were consistently rational adults making sensible decisions.

    +1

    Multi-value returns, though ...
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Jun 29 07:59:22 2026
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    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 06:57:35 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:

    On 2026-03-27 13:44, rbowman wrote:

    And now almost all come with Python. C still is my goto but if I'm
    going to query a REST API, parse out the JSON return, and make it
    presentable Python saves a lot of boilerplate.

    Surely, that is not due to the LANGUAGE, but due to the fact that
    there are better and more intuitive LIBRARIES readily available?

    Why are there more and better libraries for doing that sort of thing
    in Python than in other languages?

    Remember that Perl, as the former biggest example of this, had CPAN
    years before Python came on the scene. So it had a big head start in
    being able to accumulate lots of similarly useful libraries.

    Yet Python not only caught up, but it surpassed Perl.

    Why? Because the core language of Python is more amenable to this
    sort of extensibility.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Jun 29 08:05:55 2026
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    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:37:48 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:

    Over the years I used several different Modula-2 compilers for the
    IBM-PC.

    I was a Mac man, initially programming in TML Pascal, then switched to Metrowerks Modula-2. Why? Because Modula-2 was Niklaus Wirth’s
    anointed successor to Pascal. It did modularity better for one (hence
    the name).

    You probably remember Metrowerks because they abandoned their Modula-2
    compiler to create CodeWarrior, which became the IDE de rigueur for
    PowerPC Macintoshes when Apple made that platform shift.

    Eventually I realized that Modula-2 was never going to outlast Pascal.
    I gave in to the horde and switched to C at that point.

    Nowadays you have a nice range of languages available -- more than I
    ever imagined.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Mon Jun 29 08:07:14 2026
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    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 17:23:34 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    To which I point out that there is a difference between evolution
    and decay.

    Like when our ancestors lost the ability to digest cellulose and
    and became parasites on those who kept that ability?
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Mon Jun 29 08:11:41 2026
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    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 10:29:07 +0100, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Harrison's H1 was a bit bigger, and from the looks of it heavier, than
    that.

    Certainly, but Harrison's H1 was never intended to go to sea

    And yet that’s exactly what he did with it. That was part of the
    conditions of winning the prize, after all.
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Mon Jun 29 10:47:30 2026
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    On 2026-06-29 10:07, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 17:23:34 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    To which I point out that there is a difference between evolution
    and decay.

    Like when our ancestors lost the ability to digest cellulose and
    and became parasites on those who kept that ability?

    "Loosing" the ability to digest cellulose gives us a smaller intestine
    and a faster digestion, less time spent trying to find food, and more
    time to rest or invent things.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english on Mon Jun 29 10:19:03 2026
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    Le 29/06/2026 à 09:07, Lawrence D’Oliveiro a écrit :
    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 17:23:34 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    To which I point out that there is a difference between evolution
    and decay.

    Like when our ancestors lost the ability to digest cellulose and
    and became parasites on those who kept that ability?


    It was a good trade, IMHO. Becoming omnivorous, inventing agriculture
    and cooking have cut the overhead, allowed us to spread throughout the
    world and become its masters.

    Better a chinwag than chewing the cud.

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Jun 29 16:39:53 2026
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    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 07:59:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Remember that Perl, as the former biggest example of this, had CPAN
    years before Python came on the scene. So it had a big head start in
    being able to accumulate lots of similarly useful libraries.

    Yet Python not only caught up, but it surpassed Perl.

    Perl may have suffered a bit from the Osborne effect. Perl 6 is coming
    real soon now.

    It doesn't have to be but Perl has a reputation of being cryptic. That's
    not to say Python can't be cryptic but it does force some structure onto
    the neophyte.

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