• California’s Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted, police horses charge and fires break out

    From Lissajous@megahurrts9911@kilos.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns on Sun Jul 5 16:09:04 2026
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    "California’s Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted, police
    horses charge and fires break out"

    <https://nypost.com/2026/07/05/us-news/california-july-fourth-chaos-stores- looted-police-horses-charge-fires-erupt/>

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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns on Sun Jul 5 11:15:40 2026
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    Lissajous wrote:

    "California’s Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted, police >horses charge and fires break out"

    <https://nypost.com/2026/07/05/us-news/california-july-fourth-chaos-stores-looted-police-horses-charge-fires-erupt/>

    No stereotypes were harmed by this video.

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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns on Sun Jul 5 19:18:03 2026
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    On 2026-07-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    Lissajous wrote:

    "CaliforniaÂ’s Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted, police >>horses charge and fires break out"
    <https://nypost.com/2026/07/05/us-news/california-july-fourth-chaos-stores-looted-police-horses-charge-fires-erupt/>

    No stereotypes were harmed by this video.


    And not a peep out of the leftist MSM. At least not that I have seen
    They are too busy covering patriots arriving in DC for the celebrations.

    So how much trouble have these rightest patriots caused?
    Stabbings?
    Arson?
    Attacking police?
    Attacking the opposite side?

    Maybe I missed it, but nothing like that video shows.
    And in fact nothing like leftist protests in general show.
    --
    pothead

    "The goal of socialism is Communism"
    -- Vladimir Lenin

    "Communism may be summed up in a single sentence: 'Abolition of private property"
    -- Karl Marx

    "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
    people's money"
    -- Margaret Thatcher
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  • From Newscum@newscum@sacbee.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns on Sun Jul 5 22:12:58 2026
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    On 05 Jul 2026, Lissajous <megahurrts9911@kilos.net> posted some news:XnsB4807B9C72684twwwe555@62.164.182.21:

    "California’s Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted,
    police horses charge and fires break out"

    <https://nypost.com/2026/07/05/us-news/california-july-fourth-chaos-stor >es-looted-police-horses-charge-fires-erupt/>

    It's all part of the Democrat plan to destroy California as a state.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,nz.politics on Sun Jul 5 23:45:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,nz.politics on Sun Jul 5 19:53:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...


    Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists
    want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
    him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Mon Jul 6 00:47:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...


    Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists
    want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
    him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.

    Exactly.

    MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far right Christian white cishet male.

    They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while cheering a president who pressures states, universities, businesses, media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government" now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom, boardroom, and doctor’s office, and even your bedroom.

    The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a failed dystopia, you'd think they’d just ignore it. Instead, they can't stop talking about it because they need a villain to keep the outrage machine running.

    It’s amazing how quickly "don’t tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
    not like us."
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Mon Jul 6 00:48:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:45:39 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <112eqb2$1h8ub$4@dont-email.me>:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...

    Because people are celebrated for being different.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Sun Jul 5 20:52:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 7/5/2026 8:47 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:
    On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...

    Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists
    want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
    him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.

    Exactly.

    MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly what we
    tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far right Christian white cishet male.

    They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while cheering a
    president who pressures states, universities, businesses, media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government" now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom, boardroom, and doctor’s office, and even your bedroom.

    The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a failed dystopia, you'd think they’d just ignore it. Instead, they can't stop talking
    about it because they need a villain to keep the outrage machine running.

    It’s amazing how quickly "don’t tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
    not like us."


    My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
    about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
    establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
    minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up
    to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Omar@Omarsgoat109817@hotmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Mon Jul 6 01:06:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a4afb31$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...


    Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white
    nationalists want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse
    psychology. They see him as their great leader, he's in reality
    making asses of them.

    Exactly.

    MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly
    what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far
    right Christian white cishet male.

    They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while
    cheering a president who pressures states, universities, businesses,
    media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government"
    now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom,
    boardroom, and doctor’s office, and even your bedroom.

    The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a
    failed dystopia, you'd think they’d just ignore it. Instead, they
    can't stop talking about it because they need a villain to keep the
    outrage machine running.

    It’s amazing how quickly "don’t tread on me" became "please tread
    on everyone not like us."

    You have taken stupid to a whole different level. Are you a moron or just playing one on usenet?

    People focus on Cali because Newsom is currently one of the top picks for
    the 2028 election.
    Cali has been a total disaster under the leadership of Newsom.

    Why do you think people and businesses are leaving Cali in favor of other better run states, mostly red states like texas and Florida.
    It's not because things are great for the working class in Cali.

    <https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/fleeing-futures-massive-california- exodus-unleashes-florida-gold-rush>

    Here is a partial list of what Newsom's liberal governing has done to
    destroy once great Cali.

    Get your head out of your ass and engage your brain for once in your
    goddamned life and do some research instead of muttering like some
    liberal retard.

    <https://nypost.com/2026/06/30/opinion/california-budget-swells-70-under- gov-gavin-newsom/>

    "This week, Democratic legislators approved a state budget — Gavin
    Newsom’s last as governor.

    When Newsom took office in 2019, California’s budget totaled
    approximately $209 billion. The budget he and the Legislature are now
    sending to his desk comes in at roughly $356 billion. In seven years,
    total state spending has increased by nearly $147 billion — a staggering
    70% increase (40%, after inflation).

    That is not merely a budget increase. It is a governing philosophy
    expressed in dollars.

    California’s population did not grow by anything close to 70% during
    those years. Inflation did not come close to that either. State
    government grew because the political conditions existed to make it grow.

    Gavin Newsom delivering a speech at a conference.
    When Gov. Gavin Newsom took office in 2019, California’s budget totaled approximately $209 billion.
    When a liberal governor sits down with liberal supermajorities in both
    the state Senate and state Assembly, the result is not difficult to
    predict. More programs become permanent. Temporary spending becomes
    ongoing spending. Every surplus becomes an excuse to expand government
    rather than prepare for the downturn that eventually follows every
    economic expansion.

    The state spent tens of billions of dollars addressing homelessness, yet California still has the nation’s largest homeless population. Medi-Cal spending climbed to record levels and has become one of the major drivers
    of the state’s budget pressure. Education spending continued rising even
    as enrollment declined in many districts throughout the state.

    This is not complicated. Sacramento demanded more money, spent more
    money, and promised better results. Yet the core failures remain: homelessness, affordability, weak schools, rising energy costs, insurance instability and basic quality of life.

    Taxpayers are entitled to ask what exactly they received in exchange for
    an additional $147 billion in annual spending.

    California has built one of the most progressive — and volatile — tax
    systems in America. In boom years, stock market gains, IPO activity and investment income can flood Sacramento with revenue. That money feels permanent when it arrives, but much of it is tied to financial markets
    that can reverse quickly.

    That is the trap. Sacramento builds ongoing programs with revenues that
    may not continue. When markets rise, politicians expand government. When markets fall, capital gains disappear, tax receipts drop, and the state suddenly discovers that permanent spending commitments were built on
    temporary money.

    Put plainly, California’s budget does not simply rise and fall with the economy. It rises and falls with the stock market.

    The volatility would be risky enough on its own. But California’s
    political class has added another danger: It increasingly treats wealth creation as something to punish rather than protect.

    Just the mere possibility of California imposing a billionaire wealth tax
    has already sent a message to the taxpayers Sacramento depends upon to
    keep the money flowing. You may be next.

    California has already watched entrepreneurs, investors and business
    leaders leave for states with lower taxes and less hostility toward
    success. Whether Sacramento likes it or not, the people capable of paying
    the largest tax bills are also among the people most capable of leaving.

    Building a $356 billion government while telling your largest taxpayers
    that they are the enemy is not fiscal planning. It is wishful thinking.

    For much of the Newsom era, California benefited from technology booms, surging markets and extraordinary capital gains revenues. Sacramento
    treated those revenues not as temporary windfalls, but as the new normal.

    But the bigger issue is not simply whether California can afford a $356 billion government.

    It is whether Californians should want one.

    America was founded on a very different idea: That free people, families, communities, businesses, religious institutions, and civic associations
    should carry the primary responsibility for building prosperous lives and strong communities, with government serving as a limited backstop rather
    than the central actor in every aspect of society.

    California’s political leadership has embraced a different vision. Under
    Gov. Newsom and Democratic supermajorities, the assumption increasingly
    seems to be that every problem requires another program, another subsidy, another bureaucracy, and another demand on taxpayers.

    Seven years later, the bill has arrived.

    And so has the question of whether a government this large, this
    expensive, and this dependent upon perfect economic conditions was ever sustainable in the first place"
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Mon Jul 6 01:13:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 06 Jul 2026 01:06:44 GMT, Omar wrote:

    People focus on Cali because Newsom is currently one of the top
    picks for the 2028 election. Cali has been a total disaster under
    the leadership of Newsom.

    And? Are you worried he might somehow win your election regardless?
    Doesn’t your system pick the best candidate for the job? Or don’t you
    have that much faith in it?

    (After you express your opinion, we can discuss how the *present*
    incumbent won the last run of that contest ...)
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Mon Jul 6 01:20:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jul 5, 2026 at 6:06:44 PM MST, "Omar" wrote <XnsB480D6C497EF9122020@62.164.182.24>:

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a4afb31$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
    <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...


    Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white
    nationalists want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse
    psychology. They see him as their great leader, he's in reality
    making asses of them.

    Exactly.

    MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly
    what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far
    right Christian white cishet male.

    They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while
    cheering a president who pressures states, universities, businesses,
    media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government"
    now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom,
    boardroom, and doctor’s office, and even your bedroom.

    The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a
    failed dystopia, you'd think they’d just ignore it. Instead, they
    can't stop talking about it because they need a villain to keep the
    outrage machine running.

    It’s amazing how quickly "don’t tread on me" became "please tread
    on everyone not like us."

    You have taken stupid to a whole different level. Are you a moron or just playing one on usenet?

    People focus on Cali because Newsom is currently one of the top picks for
    the 2028 election.
    Cali has been a total disaster under the leadership of Newsom.

    Why do you think people and businesses are leaving Cali in favor of other better run states, mostly red states like texas and Florida.
    It's not because things are great for the working class in Cali.

    <https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/fleeing-futures-massive-california-exodus-unleashes-florida-gold-rush>

    Here is a partial list of what Newsom's liberal governing has done to
    destroy once great Cali.

    Get your head out of your ass and engage your brain for once in your goddamned life and do some research instead of muttering like some
    liberal retard.

    <https://nypost.com/2026/06/30/opinion/california-budget-swells-70-under-gov-gavin-newsom/>

    "This week, Democratic legislators approved a state budget — Gavin Newsom’s last as governor.

    When Newsom took office in 2019, California’s budget totaled
    approximately $209 billion. The budget he and the Legislature are now
    sending to his desk comes in at roughly $356 billion. In seven years,
    total state spending has increased by nearly $147 billion — a staggering 70% increase (40%, after inflation).

    That is not merely a budget increase. It is a governing philosophy
    expressed in dollars.

    California’s population did not grow by anything close to 70% during
    those years. Inflation did not come close to that either. State
    government grew because the political conditions existed to make it grow.

    Gavin Newsom delivering a speech at a conference.
    When Gov. Gavin Newsom took office in 2019, California’s budget totaled approximately $209 billion.
    When a liberal governor sits down with liberal supermajorities in both
    the state Senate and state Assembly, the result is not difficult to
    predict. More programs become permanent. Temporary spending becomes
    ongoing spending. Every surplus becomes an excuse to expand government
    rather than prepare for the downturn that eventually follows every
    economic expansion.

    The state spent tens of billions of dollars addressing homelessness, yet California still has the nation’s largest homeless population. Medi-Cal spending climbed to record levels and has become one of the major drivers
    of the state’s budget pressure. Education spending continued rising even
    as enrollment declined in many districts throughout the state.

    This is not complicated. Sacramento demanded more money, spent more
    money, and promised better results. Yet the core failures remain: homelessness, affordability, weak schools, rising energy costs, insurance instability and basic quality of life.

    Taxpayers are entitled to ask what exactly they received in exchange for
    an additional $147 billion in annual spending.

    California has built one of the most progressive — and volatile — tax systems in America. In boom years, stock market gains, IPO activity and investment income can flood Sacramento with revenue. That money feels permanent when it arrives, but much of it is tied to financial markets
    that can reverse quickly.

    That is the trap. Sacramento builds ongoing programs with revenues that
    may not continue. When markets rise, politicians expand government. When markets fall, capital gains disappear, tax receipts drop, and the state suddenly discovers that permanent spending commitments were built on temporary money.

    Put plainly, California’s budget does not simply rise and fall with the economy. It rises and falls with the stock market.

    The volatility would be risky enough on its own. But California’s
    political class has added another danger: It increasingly treats wealth creation as something to punish rather than protect.

    Just the mere possibility of California imposing a billionaire wealth tax
    has already sent a message to the taxpayers Sacramento depends upon to
    keep the money flowing. You may be next.

    California has already watched entrepreneurs, investors and business
    leaders leave for states with lower taxes and less hostility toward
    success. Whether Sacramento likes it or not, the people capable of paying
    the largest tax bills are also among the people most capable of leaving.

    Building a $356 billion government while telling your largest taxpayers
    that they are the enemy is not fiscal planning. It is wishful thinking.

    For much of the Newsom era, California benefited from technology booms, surging markets and extraordinary capital gains revenues. Sacramento
    treated those revenues not as temporary windfalls, but as the new normal.

    But the bigger issue is not simply whether California can afford a $356 billion government.

    It is whether Californians should want one.

    America was founded on a very different idea: That free people, families, communities, businesses, religious institutions, and civic associations should carry the primary responsibility for building prosperous lives and strong communities, with government serving as a limited backstop rather
    than the central actor in every aspect of society.

    California’s political leadership has embraced a different vision. Under Gov. Newsom and Democratic supermajorities, the assumption increasingly
    seems to be that every problem requires another program, another subsidy, another bureaucracy, and another demand on taxpayers.

    Seven years later, the bill has arrived.

    And so has the question of whether a government this large, this
    expensive, and this dependent upon perfect economic conditions was ever sustainable in the first place"


    Nice rant. Too bad most of it boils down to “Fox Business and the New York Post said so.”

    Yes, California has serious problems: housing costs, homelessness, insurance markets, and a volatile tax base. Nobody denies that. But pretending it’s some
    socialist wasteland ignores a few inconvenient facts.

    California remains the largest state economy in the U.S. and, if treated as a country, one of the largest economies in the world. It consistently leads the nation in venture capital, technology, entertainment, and agricultural output.

    People also leave California for lower-cost states, while plenty continue moving in for high-paying jobs. Migration isn’t a scoreboard for ideology -- it’s largely about housing prices and cost of living.

    As for the budget, simply citing that it grew 70% without mentioning
    inflation, population changes, expanded programs, or the state’s constitutional spending requirements is political spin, not analysis.

    Maybe try reading something besides Fox Business and the Post before telling everyone else to “do some research.”

    https://www.bea.gov/
    https://www.census.gov/topics/population/migration.html
    https://lao.ca.gov/
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,nz.politics on Mon Jul 6 01:22:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jul 5, 2026 at 5:52:40 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eu8r$1ikij$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 7/5/2026 8:47 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
    <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:
    On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
    they don’t even care about ...

    Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists >>> want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
    him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.

    Exactly.

    MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly what we
    tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far right Christian >> white cishet male.

    They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while cheering a
    president who pressures states, universities, businesses, media, and even
    judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government" now means a government >> big enough to fit into every classroom, boardroom, and doctor’s office, and
    even your bedroom.

    The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a failed
    dystopia, you'd think they’d just ignore it. Instead, they can't stop talking
    about it because they need a villain to keep the outrage machine running.

    It’s amazing how quickly "don’t tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
    not like us."

    My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
    about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
    establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
    minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up
    to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.

    I am hoping for a huge backlash... but it is taking longer than I thought it would. Or hoped, anyway. We are seeing it to some extent.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2