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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:

Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time offenders,.

Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

You don't really need peer review - that bastion of the Lefts Bandar
Logic: "We all say it, so it must be true" - to spot a truism.

By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come
across. Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

In the unlikely event that you're unfamiliar with Brock McNuggets—who
posts under numerous aliases, including "snit" and "Michael Glasser"
(his real nameame)—he is a longtime Usenet troll who has spent decades disrupting discussions across countless newsgroups.

According to those who have had the unpleasent experience of
interacting with him, he does not hold a regular job and instead relies
on public assistance while claiming to suffer from multiple medical
conditions.

They argue that someone who is able to post to Usenet around the clock
would likely be capable of working, but that he chooses not to. They
further describe him as lazy and intellectually unimpressive, pointing
to the quality and frequency of his online posts as evidence for that
opinion.

Here are a couple of links describing this Usenet loon Brock McNuggets.
As you will learn, this troll specimen has slipped a cog or two and is obviously mentally unstable. And in case you have not picked it up he
fancies himself a psychologist as he has a psychology degree from a
paper mill pay to graduate diploma mill.

<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
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Tim
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On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:53:24 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111mos4$qk78$5@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:52, Brock McNuggets wrote:

. What would you say the youngest a mid 50s old man should
be dating?

Unlike you, I don't presume to judge. Should is a dirty word.

I was not the one judging.
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On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:

Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
offenders,.

Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

You don't really need peer review -

You are going with feelings. OK.

that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
"We all say it, so it must be true" - to spot a truism.

You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.

By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
all... but that is idiotic reasoning.

I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across. Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.

Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
method. Nor will you. That is clear.

As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:

* Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future crime:
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime

* Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce recidivism:
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

* Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower recidivism
An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
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On 27/06/2026 07:39, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:53:24 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111mos4$qk78$5@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:52, Brock McNuggets wrote:

. What would you say the youngest a mid 50s old man should
be dating?

Unlike you, I don't presume to judge. Should is a dirty word.

I was not the one judging.

Your whole post is a judgement. As is your use of the word 'should'
You sound like one of those Americans who has lost God but kept Religion.
--
“Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of
a car with the cramped public exposure of 
an airplane.”

Dennis Miller


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On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:

Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
offenders,.

Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

You don't really need peer review -

You are going with feelings. OK.

Mo. You are

that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
"We all say it, so it must be true" - to spot a truism.

You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.

No, you are

By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them all... but that is idiotic reasoning.

I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a
punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple
expedient of repealing all laws.

Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people
breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime

I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across. >> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.

You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no
such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.

Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group?
And so on.
Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better method. Nor will you. That is clear.

I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better'
method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to
measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a
scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact
being made 'better' compared with what?

You talk pure Libtard advertising speak.

"Persil washes whiter". (Than what? distilled engine oil?)
"Nothing works faster than Aspirin" (So why not use nothing, instead)
"Drink Brawndo: it's got electrolytes"

Let me collect the full text of the Bandar Log. whom you so closely
resemble.

"A great roofless palace crowned the hill, and the marble of the
courtyards and the fountains was split, and stained with red and green,
and the very cobblestones in the courtyard where the king’s elephants
used to live had been thrust up and apart by grasses and young trees.
From the palace you could see the rows and rows of roofless houses that
made up the city looking like empty honeycombs filled with blackness;
the shapeless block of stone that had been an idol in the square where
four roads met; the pits and dimples at street corners where the public
wells once stood, and the shattered domes of temples with wild figs
sprouting on their sides. The monkeys called the place their city, and pretended to despise the Jungle-People because they lived in the forest.
And yet they never knew what the buildings were made for nor how to use
them. They would sit in circles on the hall of the king’s council
chamber, and scratch for fleas and pretend to be men; or they would run
in and out of the roofless houses and collect pieces of plaster and old
bricks in a corner, and forget where they had hidden them, and fight and
cry in scuffling crowds, and then break off to play up and down the
terraces of the king’s garden, where they would shake the rose trees and
the oranges in sport to see the fruit and flowers fall. They explored
all the passages and dark tunnels in the palace and the hundreds of
little dark rooms, but they never remembered what they had seen and what
they had not; and so drifted about in ones and twos or crowds telling
each other that they were doing as men did. They drank at the tanks and
made the water all muddy, and then they fought over it, and then they
would all rush together in mobs and shout: “There is no one in the
jungle so wise and good and clever and strong and gentle as the
Bandar-log.” Then all would begin again till they grew tired of the city
and went back to the tree-tops, hoping the Jungle-People would notice them."...

In this passage we see the basic essence of the Bandar Log. The pretend
to live in a city they didn't build, which they have no real knowledge
of,. Just as Liberals today live in a technological society that they
have no knowledge of, and didnt build.

And like the Bandar Log, they cover their ignorance my making a huge
noise, chattering and praising each other, and saying how wonderful they
are and throwing dung at anyone who dioesn't live in the trees like they do.

..."Sore, sleepy, and hungry as he was, Mowgli could not help laughing
when the Bandar-log began, twenty at a time, to tell him how great and
wise and strong and gentle they were, and how foolish he was to wish to
leave them. “We are great. We are free. We are wonderful. We are the
most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must
be true," they shouted. “Now as you are a new listener and can carry our words back to the Jungle-People so that they may notice us in future, we
will tell you all about our most excellent selves." Mowgli made no
objection, and the monkeys gathered by hundreds and hundreds on the
terrace to listen to their own speakers singing the praises of the
Bandar-log, and whenever a speaker stopped for want of breath they would
all shout together: “This is true; we all say so.” Mowgli nodded and blinked, and said “Yes” when they asked him a question, and his head
spun with the noise. “Tabaqui the Jackal must have bitten all these people,” he said to himself, “and now they have madness. Certainly this
is dewanee, the madness. Do they never go to sleep? Now there is a cloud coming to cover that moon. If it were only a big enough cloud I might
try to run away in the darkness. But I am tired.”

Her we see the true essence of the Bandar Log. They are not really
interested in facts, or reality, or anything. They are only interested
in self importance. So they tell themselves how fantastic they are and
then assume that because they all are saying the same thing, it must be
true. This is called 'peer review' in today's most modernism.
Underlying it is the metaphysiocs of the narcissist. "The truth is a
social construct". That is, they *believe* that the only real thing is
what people think or can be persuaded to think, is real.

Hence the slogans. 'Black lives matter!' 'Climate Denier'! 'fascist'
'racist' ''capitalist' 'Planet friendly' 'saving the planet' 'saving the children' (from exactly what is never, of course specified).

Facts are not, as Wittgenstein remarked 'whatever is the case' - No.,
Facts are *what everyone agrees they are* using a scientific practice -
peer review - for something it was never intended.

it doesn't matter what 98% of scientists think it it is in fact wrong.

But the woke Left have no concept of objective reality. Reality is what
they say it is, and that's that.

Discovered not by experiment, but by opinion poll marketing survey and
peer review.

As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:

* Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future crime:
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime

* Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce recidivism:
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

* Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower recidivism
An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway

Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison
isn't there to 'cure' people. Its there to remove people from society.

The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be
sent to prison at all.
Then There wont be any recidivism.

Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a
coherent society.
--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.


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Le 23-06-2026, Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> a écrit :

On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 04:31:34 -0400, c186282 wrote:

Yes, DO see how it can be potentially abused and
the added complication. Kinda OUR job to watch
for that happening and act.

The fact that you consider systemd acceptable is a definite
indication that YOU are not doing YOUR job.

It's unrelated.

Anyone who understands the technicality and proposed goals
of systemd realizes that it is an insidious usurpation of
GNU/Linux freedom.

You are not fighting for freedom. You are fighting for everyone to use
your awkward way. So, don't speak about freedom when you are fighting
against freedom.

If the overwhelming majority of GNU/Linux distros have
converted to systemd then the idea of "choice" is merely
a pipe dream of deluded idiots.

When there are no better alternative, there is no real choice, I agree.
Now, systemd is far from the only thing that's running on my computer.

Choice still exists, but not for distro slaves.

Choice exists for me, you just can't understand that because in your
fight against freedom you consider the only possible choice is to chose
the tools you are using.
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On Jun 27, 2026 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111o1qs$14qc4$1@dont-email.me>:

On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:

Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
offenders,.

Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

You don't really need peer review -

You are going with feelings. OK.

Mo. You are

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. That is boring.

that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
"We all say it, so it must be true" - to spot a truism.

You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.

No, you are

You did it again.

By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
all... but that is idiotic reasoning.

I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a
punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple
expedient of repealing all laws.

Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people
breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime

You are missing the point. I am not focused on laws -- but on how to improve equal rights. I back evidence based policies to do that.

I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across. >>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.

You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no
such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.

Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group?
And so on.
Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

Note how you just babble rage bate. Not very exciting.

Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
method. Nor will you. That is clear.

I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better'
method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to
measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a
scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact
being made 'better' compared with what?

Your goal seems just to try to get people engaged.

...

As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:

* Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future >> crime:
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime

* Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
recidivism:
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

* Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
recidivism
An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway

Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison isn't there to 'cure' people. It's there to remove people from society.

What is your overall goal? Your value?

The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be
sent to prison at all.
Then There wont be any recidivism.

That is not true. That would not be the best way to support equal rights and this is not tied to my views.

Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a
coherent society.

You are just looking to engage -- not to be reasoned or logical.
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On Jun 27, 2026 at 12:50:19 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111nvbr$13vpm$1@dont-email.me>:

On 27/06/2026 07:39, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:53:24 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111mos4$qk78$5@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:52, Brock McNuggets wrote:

. What would you say the youngest a mid 50s old man should
be dating?

Unlike you, I don't presume to judge. Should is a dirty word.

I was not the one judging.

Your whole post is a judgement. As is your use of the word 'should'
You sound like one of those Americans who has lost God but kept Religion.

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. Not very interesting.
--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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On 27 Jun 2026 09:39:43 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

If the overwhelming majority of GNU/Linux distros have
converted to systemd then the idea of "choice" is merely
a pipe dream of deluded idiots.

When there are no better alternative, there is no real choice, I agree.

As usual, you understand nothing.

The reason that most distros offer only systemd is NOT because it
is the better alternative.

The true reason is that distro developers are too LAZY and INCOMPETENT
to offer a choice of init systems and service managers. To save
themselves the expense and effort of supporting different systems they
have decided to offer only systemd.

Indeed, Linux From Scratch explicitly states that is was a severe
manpower shortage that caused them to drop support for alternative
init systems. Other distros keep their laziness and incompetence
a secret, but the reason is the same.

It takes a LOT of effort and expense to offer a lot of choice and
most distros do not desire to assume the burden.

That is the only reason for systemd, for wayland, for GNOME, etc.,
etc.

Gentoo, to cite yet another example, used to produce a Live DVD/USB
that included many, many different GUI environments (about a dozen)
that the user could select. However they stopped doing that because
of the great effort involved. Now, the Gentoo Live DVD/USB only
includes KDE.

Thus, only an idiot, like you, assumes that systemd is selected because
it is the "best." It was selected because the distro developers are
too lazy and too stupid to offer freedom and choice.

Init systems cannot be ranked in terms of being better or best. An
init system is only a choice made by a user that is based on his needs
and/or preferences. That is all. But when that choice is removed
by lazy and incompetent distro developers then GNU/Linux can only
degenerate -- and that is exactly what is happening.

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On 27/06/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote:

What is your overall goal? Your value?

What on earth makes you think that people actually have them?
Its an indulgence that middle class spoilt suburbanites with no
experience of real life think they ought to have.,
Grown ups know better
--
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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On 27/06/2026 15:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 27, 2026 at 12:50:19 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111nvbr$13vpm$1@dont-email.me>:

On 27/06/2026 07:39, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:53:24 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111mos4$qk78$5@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:52, Brock McNuggets wrote:

. What would you say the youngest a mid 50s old man should
be dating?

Unlike you, I don't presume to judge. Should is a dirty word.

I was not the one judging.

Your whole post is a judgement. As is your use of the word 'should'
You sound like one of those Americans who has lost God but kept Religion.

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. Not very interesting.

I see you are projecting again
--
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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On Jun 27, 2026 at 11:38:13 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111p5al$354ha$2@dont-email.me>:

On 27/06/2026 15:50, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 27, 2026 at 12:50:19 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111nvbr$13vpm$1@dont-email.me>:

On 27/06/2026 07:39, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:53:24 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111mos4$qk78$5@dont-email.me>:

On 26/06/2026 18:52, Brock McNuggets wrote:

. What would you say the youngest a mid 50s old man should
be dating?

Unlike you, I don't presume to judge. Should is a dirty word.

I was not the one judging.

Your whole post is a judgement. As is your use of the word 'should'
You sound like one of those Americans who has lost God but kept Religion. >>

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. Not very interesting.

You ignored this to troll.

I see you are projecting again

--
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On Jun 27, 2026 at 11:37:49 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <111p59t$354ha$1@dont-email.me>:

On 27/06/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote:

What is your overall goal? Your value?

What on earth makes you think that people actually have them?

Others may or may not -- I do ... and you make it clear you do not have any... at least meaningful ones.

Its an indulgence that middle class spoilt suburbanites with no
experience of real life think they ought to have.,
Grown ups know better

--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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