• Many French govt workers could soon be living under the strict Gnome"Code of Conduct"

    From DFS@nospam@dfs.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Apr 13 22:24:26 2026
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    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will
    replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/


    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And
    it applies to all GNOME users.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.



    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?

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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Apr 13 22:33:16 2026
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    On 4/13/26 10:24 PM, DFS wrote:

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/


    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately?  It's a doozy.  And it applies to all GNOME users.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.



    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?


    Even if I were using GNOME (vomit), I doubt I'd be on these forums
    enough to violate a rule. I like Cinnamon, conveniently available on
    Debian which I also prefer. Boom, I always get what I want and need,
    because God loves me so much.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From makendo@makendo@makendo.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Apr 14 11:36:46 2026
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    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately?  It's a doozy.  And it applies to all GNOME users.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/
    Gave a quick read.

    I have no comment on whether we should emphasize on the safety of "marginalized" people, but I absolutely don't want to care about
    the gender of the someone behind the other end of the optical fiber.
    At all. Strict enforcement of the code conduct will _make even the_
    _smallest of disputes very easy to escalate_.

    Just no personal attacks, keep technical talks technical. Also too
    bad English has gendered pronouns like he/him or she/her -- If
    everyone is happy being referred to as they, like how the pronoun
    of everyone in my native tongue is just a flat _ta_
    (/t%CA%B0a%CB%A5%CB%A5/), the world will be a lot better.

    (sorry for the percent encoding of phonetic marks)

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Apr 14 07:55:00 2026
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    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 11:36:46 +0800, makendo wrote:

    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately?  It's a doozy.  And >> it applies to all GNOME users.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    Gave a quick read.

    Also read this <https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html>.

    Note Freedom 0.
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  • From Borax Man@boraxman@geidiprime.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Apr 14 14:36:00 2026
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    On 2026-04-14, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/


    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And
    it applies to all GNOME users.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.



    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?


    These codes are so silly. You're not living in a proper civilisation if
    such things are being taken seriously.

    The scope of the code includes...

    "Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels"
    "Private conversations taking place in official conference"

    This is the kind of attitude I would expect from the parents of 6 year
    olds supervising a party, NOT adults with adults.

    And "marginalised" is the icing on the cage. Doesn't "marginalised"
    simply mean, anyone who isn't a straight white male?

    Then I saw "Sage Sharps" name... She's offering training for enforcing
    Codes of Conduct!

    $350 to attend a Code of Conduct enforcement workshop! https://otter.technology/shop/2026-04-14-amer-code-of-conduct-enforcement-workshop/

    I simply can't give money to these organisations anymore. Such bullshit
    they spend it on. Grift. Pure grift. Makes me wish I thought of this first. --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Apr 14 11:27:18 2026
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    DFS wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/

    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And
    it applies to all GNOME users.

    No it doesn't. It applies to GNOME community spaces. See below.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.

    If you say so:

    This Code of Conduct applies to all GNOME community spaces,
    including, but not limited to:

    Issue tracking systems - bugzilla.gnome.org
    Documentation and tutorials - developer.gnome.org
    Code repositories - git.gnome.org and gitlab.gnome.org
    Mailing lists - mail.gnome.org
    Wikis - wiki.gnome.org
    Chat and forums - irc.gnome.org, discourse.gnome.org, GNOME
    Telegram channels, and GNOME groups and channels on Matrix.org
    (including bridges to GNOME IRC channels)
    Community spaces hosted on gnome.org infrastructure
    Any other channels or groups which exist in order to discuss
    GNOME project activities
    All event venues and associated spaces, including conferences,
    hackfests, release parties, workshops and other small events
    All areas related to event venues: vendor exhibit halls, staff
    and meal areas, connecting infrastructure like walkways,
    hallways, elevators, and stairs
    Sponsor events, either on-site or off-site
    Private events off-site that involve one or more attendees
    Social events around the main event
    Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels

    Communication channels and private conversations that are
    normally out of scope may be considered in scope if a GNOME
    participant is being stalked or harassed. Social media
    conversations may be considered in-scope if the incident
    occurred under a GNOME event hashtag, or when an official
    GNOME account on social media is tagged, or within any other
    discussion about GNOME. The GNOME Foundation reserves the
    right to take actions against behaviors that happen in any
    context, if they are deemed to be relevant to the GNOME
    project and its participants.

    It sounds to me like something any corporation would support for
    their employees.

    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?

    The GNOME CoC does not apply here, except perhaps to GNOME
    developers or spokespeople who venture into this space.

    My opinion, anyway.

    If you disagree: https://conduct.gnome.org/reporter-guide/
    --
    What is now proved was once only imagin'd.
    -- William Blake
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  • From Borax Man@boraxman@geidiprime.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 15 13:20:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-04-14, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
    DFS wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will
    replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop. >>
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/

    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And
    it applies to all GNOME users.

    No it doesn't. It applies to GNOME community spaces. See below.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.

    If you say so:

    This Code of Conduct applies to all GNOME community spaces,
    including, but not limited to:

    Issue tracking systems - bugzilla.gnome.org
    Documentation and tutorials - developer.gnome.org
    Code repositories - git.gnome.org and gitlab.gnome.org
    Mailing lists - mail.gnome.org
    Wikis - wiki.gnome.org
    Chat and forums - irc.gnome.org, discourse.gnome.org, GNOME
    Telegram channels, and GNOME groups and channels on Matrix.org
    (including bridges to GNOME IRC channels)
    Community spaces hosted on gnome.org infrastructure
    Any other channels or groups which exist in order to discuss
    GNOME project activities
    All event venues and associated spaces, including conferences,
    hackfests, release parties, workshops and other small events
    All areas related to event venues: vendor exhibit halls, staff
    and meal areas, connecting infrastructure like walkways,
    hallways, elevators, and stairs
    Sponsor events, either on-site or off-site
    Private events off-site that involve one or more attendees
    Social events around the main event
    Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels

    Communication channels and private conversations that are
    normally out of scope may be considered in scope if a GNOME
    participant is being stalked or harassed. Social media
    conversations may be considered in-scope if the incident
    occurred under a GNOME event hashtag, or when an official
    GNOME account on social media is tagged, or within any other
    discussion about GNOME. The GNOME Foundation reserves the
    right to take actions against behaviors that happen in any
    context, if they are deemed to be relevant to the GNOME
    project and its participants.

    It sounds to me like something any corporation would support for
    their employees.

    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including
    encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?

    The GNOME CoC does not apply here, except perhaps to GNOME
    developers or spokespeople who venture into this space.

    My opinion, anyway.

    If you disagree: https://conduct.gnome.org/reporter-guide/


    It also applies to private conversations and private meetups.

    It doesn't apply here (how could it???), but it is still stupid.
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  • From DFS@nospam@dfs.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 15 12:45:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 4/14/2026 11:27 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    DFS wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will
    replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop. >>
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/

    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And
    it applies to all GNOME users.

    No it doesn't.

    Read closer.


    It applies to GNOME community spaces. See below.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.

    If you say so:

    I do say so.


    This Code of Conduct applies to all GNOME community spaces,
    including, but not limited to:

    Issue tracking systems - bugzilla.gnome.org
    Documentation and tutorials - developer.gnome.org
    Code repositories - git.gnome.org and gitlab.gnome.org
    Mailing lists - mail.gnome.org
    Wikis - wiki.gnome.org
    Chat and forums - irc.gnome.org, discourse.gnome.org, GNOME
    Telegram channels, and GNOME groups and channels on Matrix.org
    (including bridges to GNOME IRC channels)
    Community spaces hosted on gnome.org infrastructure
    Any other channels or groups which exist in order to discuss
    GNOME project activities
    All event venues and associated spaces, including conferences,
    hackfests, release parties, workshops and other small events
    All areas related to event venues: vendor exhibit halls, staff
    and meal areas, connecting infrastructure like walkways,
    hallways, elevators, and stairs
    Sponsor events, either on-site or off-site
    Private events off-site that involve one or more attendees
    Social events around the main event
    Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels

    Communication channels and private conversations that are
    normally out of scope may be considered in scope if a GNOME
    participant is being stalked or harassed. Social media
    conversations may be considered in-scope if the incident
    occurred under a GNOME event hashtag, or when an official
    GNOME account on social media is tagged, or within any other
    discussion about GNOME. The GNOME Foundation reserves the
    right to take actions against behaviors that happen in any
    context, if they are deemed to be relevant to the GNOME
    project and its participants.

    It sounds to me like something any corporation would support for
    their employees.


    My behavior outside of work is NOT governed by a "code of conduct" of my employer, even if they think it is.

    "Private events off-site that involve one or more attendees"
    "Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels"

    heh! What assholes.

    Twice now I told off these blue-haired, nose-ring-wearing lamers. They
    failed to respond both times.

    I will NEVER run a DE or a distro that has any sort of "code of conduct"
    or promotes LGBTQ "safe spaces" or is pro-homosexuality or pro-DEI. Do
    tech or leave the arena.

    It's bad enough I sold out and, in exchange for running the best office software there is, by far, let Microsoft continue to collect whatever
    data they can collect about me.


    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including
    encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?

    The GNOME CoC does not apply here,

    It doesn't apply ANYWHERE. It's a feminist/queer/sissy male wet dream
    of creepy, quiet, civil, inoffensive, homogeneous behavior.

    If they don't like your opinion, they'll write you up and maybe
    perma-ban you... oooohhhh!!!


    except perhaps to GNOME
    developers or spokespeople who venture into this space.

    Great. They're welcome to come in and see the cola brawlpit in all its uncensored glory.


    My opinion, anyway.

    If you disagree: https://conduct.gnome.org/reporter-guide/

    Do you run Gnome? 'Cause here on cola you made a crack about
    homosexuality the other day. That diminished the LGBTQ people reading,
    failed to recognize their inherent worthiness, and made them feel less
    than. Report your violation and accept the consequences, you uncaring brute...



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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 15 13:34:41 2026
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    DFS wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    <snip>

    If you disagree: https://conduct.gnome.org/reporter-guide/

    Do you run Gnome? 'Cause here on cola you made a crack about
    homosexuality the other day. That diminished the LGBTQ people reading, failed to recognize their inherent worthiness, and made them feel less
    than. Report your violation and accept the consequences, you uncaring brute...

    1. I don't run GNOME.
    2. I don't develop for gnome.org.
    3. I am not a participant in any direct work (documentation,
    public relations, meeting organization, logistics, system
    administration) for GNOME projects.
    4. I don't get heated up over shibboleths.

    By the way:

    <https://opensource.microsoft.com/codeofconduct/>

    <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/compliance/sbc>

    A whole lot of links in that second one.

    In every company at which I've worked, I had to take tedious
    annual training on compliance and ethics, harassment,
    anti-corruption and bribery, proper time-reporting, etc.

    The only non-work warnings were not to post corporate and project
    information on social media, and not to make an ass of myself
    with the company name attached.
    --
    The computer should be doing the hard work. That's what it's paid to do,
    after all.
    -- Larry Wall in <199709012312.QAA08121@wall.org>
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  • From Borax Man@boraxman@geidiprime.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Apr 16 13:06:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-04-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
    On 4/14/2026 11:27 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    DFS wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will
    replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop. >>>
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/

    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And >>> it applies to all GNOME users.

    No it doesn't.

    Read closer.


    It applies to GNOME community spaces. See below.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.

    If you say so:

    I do say so.


    This Code of Conduct applies to all GNOME community spaces,
    including, but not limited to:

    Issue tracking systems - bugzilla.gnome.org
    Documentation and tutorials - developer.gnome.org
    Code repositories - git.gnome.org and gitlab.gnome.org
    Mailing lists - mail.gnome.org
    Wikis - wiki.gnome.org
    Chat and forums - irc.gnome.org, discourse.gnome.org, GNOME
    Telegram channels, and GNOME groups and channels on Matrix.org
    (including bridges to GNOME IRC channels)
    Community spaces hosted on gnome.org infrastructure
    Any other channels or groups which exist in order to discuss
    GNOME project activities
    All event venues and associated spaces, including conferences,
    hackfests, release parties, workshops and other small events
    All areas related to event venues: vendor exhibit halls, staff
    and meal areas, connecting infrastructure like walkways,
    hallways, elevators, and stairs
    Sponsor events, either on-site or off-site
    Private events off-site that involve one or more attendees
    Social events around the main event
    Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels

    Communication channels and private conversations that are
    normally out of scope may be considered in scope if a GNOME
    participant is being stalked or harassed. Social media
    conversations may be considered in-scope if the incident
    occurred under a GNOME event hashtag, or when an official
    GNOME account on social media is tagged, or within any other
    discussion about GNOME. The GNOME Foundation reserves the
    right to take actions against behaviors that happen in any
    context, if they are deemed to be relevant to the GNOME
    project and its participants.

    It sounds to me like something any corporation would support for
    their employees.


    My behavior outside of work is NOT governed by a "code of conduct" of my employer, even if they think it is.

    "Private events off-site that involve one or more attendees"
    "Private conversations taking place in official conference hotels"

    heh! What assholes.

    Twice now I told off these blue-haired, nose-ring-wearing lamers. They failed to respond both times.

    I will NEVER run a DE or a distro that has any sort of "code of conduct"
    or promotes LGBTQ "safe spaces" or is pro-homosexuality or pro-DEI. Do
    tech or leave the arena.

    It's bad enough I sold out and, in exchange for running the best office software there is, by far, let Microsoft continue to collect whatever
    data they can collect about me.


    Joel, you've already violated the Gnome CoC many times:

    "This includes incitement of violence toward any individual, including
    encouraging a person to commit self-harm."

    tsk tsk... where's your humanity and empathy?

    The GNOME CoC does not apply here,

    It doesn't apply ANYWHERE. It's a feminist/queer/sissy male wet dream
    of creepy, quiet, civil, inoffensive, homogeneous behavior.

    If they don't like your opinion, they'll write you up and maybe
    perma-ban you... oooohhhh!!!


    except perhaps to GNOME
    developers or spokespeople who venture into this space.

    Great. They're welcome to come in and see the cola brawlpit in all its uncensored glory.


    My opinion, anyway.

    If you disagree: https://conduct.gnome.org/reporter-guide/

    Do you run Gnome? 'Cause here on cola you made a crack about
    homosexuality the other day. That diminished the LGBTQ people reading, failed to recognize their inherent worthiness, and made them feel less
    than. Report your violation and accept the consequences, you uncaring brute...




    SJW's are a cancer, and we should at this point in time, be well past
    taking anything they say seriously.

    Its shameful that we as a society give them any consideration at all.
    They are utterly toxic spiteful mutants.

    By the way, if they could, they CoC everthing, so you'd never have
    freedom. Thats why they infiltrate these organisations, to ensure that
    every space complies. They'll come for you...
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Apr 16 23:20:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:06:22 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

    Its shameful that we as a society give them any consideration at
    all. They are utterly toxic spiteful mutants.

    Thank you for drawing attention to this injustice. We need more “woke” types like you.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Apr 17 20:03:59 2026
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    Le 14-04-2026, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :

    Steven Vaughan-Nichols of zdnet believes parts of the French govt will replace Windows with the next Ubuntu release, running the Gnome 50 desktop.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-leaves-windows-for-linux-desktop/

    I can't find any English link but clearly, it's neither named FranceOS
    nor based on Ubuntu. You can check the github (yes, agreed it's a shame
    to use it for quitting Microsoft) repo hosting it: <https://github.com/cloud-gouv/securix>

    You have more information in English here, on the related repo: <https://github.com/cloud-gouv/bureautix-example>

    I don't really know what to think about that choice. Clearly, it's not a follower move but a real decision. Now, is it good or not? I don't know.
    There are a lot of good reasons to back up that choice. But others
    reasons to chose something else. So, time will tell.

    I'm neither saying nor implying they should have stayed with Microsoft.
    They are right to move out, they should have done it long ago, thanks to
    Trump who showed the world he can ban anyone he wants from using a
    computer.

    Has he looked at the Gnome "Code of Conduct" lately? It's a doozy. And
    it applies to all GNOME users.

    https://conduct.gnome.org/

    And it's farcical and ridiculous.

    I read some Microsoft requirements years ago and it was shit. And from a
    first glance at the github repo, well it's not gnome but KDE. And
    depending on what they want to do, they could be able to let end-users
    choose the desktop of their choice. Don't know about that, I'm only
    guessing.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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