• Why You =?UTF-8?B?Q2Fu4oCZdA==?= Use A Mac As A Server

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 21:09:34 2026
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    From <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/macos/macos-has-a-49-7-day-networking-time-bomb-built-in-that-only-a-reboot-fixes-comparison-operation-on-unreliable-time-value-stops-machines-dead-in-their-tracks>:

    Speaking from personal experience, using a Mac as a server or
    server-like contraption is quite an interesting proposition, as
    despite its Unix roots, the operating system isn't exactly
    designed for unattended, 24/7 usage and is difficult to set up and
    use as such — fighting words, but I stand by them.

    Yet another person being taken in by Apple’s use of the “Unix”
    trademark. In fact Apple’s OS never had any AT&T Unix code in it at
    all.

    This is peculiar, though:

    While most every user will reboot their Mac at least once in the
    space of a few weeks, if you happen to leave one running for
    precisely 49 days, 17 hours, 2 minutes, and 47 seconds, many parts
    will suddenly stop working as its TCP/IP networking stack dies.

    I thought macOS was BSD-based? And didn’t BSD have the best TCP/IP
    networking stack at one point?

    Seems those days are gone, eclipsed by Linux.

    A clue:

    As defined by standards, operating systems collect and remove
    closed TCP connections after a short while; 30 seconds in the case
    of macOS. The result of attempting to clean up these inactive
    connections when tcp_now is close to or at its limit (and gets
    stuck there thanks to a bug in Apple's XNU kernel) is that any
    connection's expiration status is calculated against that frozen
    number, resulting in a value that always overflows a 32-bit
    unsigned integer. When the periodic check comes to see whether a
    closed connection is meant to be deleted, the result is always
    "no," because the comparison math doesn't work.

    What does “XNU” stand for? It stands for “XNU’s Not Unix”. So you start to understand how the bug could have come in: Apple has been
    meddling with its own OS’s “Unix roots”, and has broken the networking stack in the process.
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  • From makendo@makendo@makendo.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Apr 10 10:32:03 2026
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    From <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/macos/macos-has-a-49-7-day-networking-time-bomb-built-in-that-only-a-reboot-fixes-comparison-operation-on-unreliable-time-value-stops-machines-dead-in-their-tracks>:

    Speaking from personal experience, using a Mac as a server or
    server-like contraption is quite an interesting proposition, as
    despite its Unix roots, the operating system isn't exactly
    designed for unattended, 24/7 usage and is difficult to set up and
    use as such — fighting words, but I stand by them.

    Yet another person being taken in by Apple’s use of the “Unix” trademark. In fact Apple’s OS never had any AT&T Unix code in it at
    all.

    This is peculiar, though:

    While most every user will reboot their Mac at least once in the
    space of a few weeks, if you happen to leave one running for
    precisely 49 days, 17 hours, 2 minutes, and 47 seconds, many parts
    will suddenly stop working as its TCP/IP networking stack dies.

    I thought macOS was BSD-based? And didn’t BSD have the best TCP/IP networking stack at one point?

    Seems those days are gone, eclipsed by Linux.

    A clue:

    As defined by standards, operating systems collect and remove
    closed TCP connections after a short while; 30 seconds in the case
    of macOS. The result of attempting to clean up these inactive
    connections when tcp_now is close to or at its limit (and gets
    stuck there thanks to a bug in Apple's XNU kernel) is that any
    connection's expiration status is calculated against that frozen
    number, resulting in a value that always overflows a 32-bit
    unsigned integer. When the periodic check comes to see whether a
    closed connection is meant to be deleted, the result is always
    "no," because the comparison math doesn't work.

    What does “XNU” stand for? It stands for “XNU’s Not Unix”. So you start to understand how the bug could have come in: Apple has been
    meddling with its own OS’s “Unix roots”, and has broken the networking stack in the process.

    I don't know how pricing works when companies buy stuff, but for the
    same performance, the average rack-mount Linux server should be cheaper
    than Macs.

    The only reason I can think of to run Mac as a server, is in a build
    farm. You have to use a Mac to build software running on Macs and other
    Apple platforms, and I don't think Apple will relax their control.
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