• New night mare Linux distros approach!!! Origami 2026.06 review inlast DistroWatch Weekly Issue 1167

    From jmj@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Wed Apr 8 17:46:03 2026
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    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>
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  • From jmj@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 17:49:43 2026
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    W dniu 8.04.2026 o 17:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:

    I make typo in subject:
    New night mare Linux distros approach!!! Origami 2026.06 review in last DistroWatch Weekly Issue 1167

    Should be:

    New night mare Linux distros approach!!! Origami 2026.03 review in last DistroWatch Weekly Issue 1167

    NOTE: Origami 2026.03, not Origami 2026.06.
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  • From DFS@nospam@dfs.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 12:12:31 2026
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    On 4/8/2026 11:46 AM, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz!

    They had good days?



    Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


    "Using this distribution was like sandpapering my skin and underlines
    how important it is to have multiple distributions in the world."

    That should've been the first line of the review.

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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 16:18:23 2026
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    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 17:46:03 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:


    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!


    All GNU/Linux distros are fucking worthless junk because all distros
    completely stifle the most important aspect of GNU/Linux which is
    the ability to CONFIGURE.

    Without the ability to configure a distro can only create a stunted
    and hollow shell of an OS.

    Of course, the motherfucking distro lackeys cannot care because all motherfucking distro lackeys are stupid and intellectually lazy fucks.

    One of my machines, based on a 12-year-old Core i7-4770, can
    rival any more recent machines due to superior configuration,
    and this is proven beyond doubt via benchmarks.

    Only Gentoo allows the user to configure.

    Only Gentoo.

    Brother, if you ain't using Gentoo then you are one sick fuck.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Apr 8 12:45:05 2026
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    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


    1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

    2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
    to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

    3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
    run their distro (and half my computing is
    on PIs these days anyhow).

    You can build perfectly good and secure servers
    on top of vanilla Debian, Arch derivs or even
    Centos (if you can stand the Gnome DT (I can't))
    or some of the BSDs. In short the world doesn't
    need Origami or their weird schemes.

    But then everybody thinks they have the Better Plan.

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 14:14:06 2026
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    On 2026-04-08 12:12 p.m., DFS wrote:
    On 4/8/2026 11:46 AM, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz!

    They had good days?

    Late 90s. Windows 9x was so bad that a lot of people were excited at the prospect of a stable operating system. Little did they know that it was
    often difficult to install and no more stable than what they were used to.

    Read this thriller review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


    "Using this distribution was like sandpapering my skin and underlines
    how important it is to have multiple distributions in the world."

    That should've been the first line of the review.

    For many, looking for the right distribution is no easier than what
    Indiana Jones goes through looking for a particular object of value.
    --
    CrudeSausage
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 20:42:18 2026
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    On Wed, 08 Apr 2026 16:18:23 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:


    Only Gentoo allows the user to configure.

    Only Gentoo.

    Brother, if you ain't using Gentoo then you are one sick fuck.

    I heard that Gentoo Sux though. Who wants to use a Linux distro that is universally disliked and ridiculed as much as Gentoo is? There must be something seriously wrong with Gentoo.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Wed Apr 8 21:04:24 2026
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    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 17:46:03 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>

    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will automatically upgrade to running it next week!
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  • From DFS@nospam@dfs.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 8 17:16:22 2026
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    On 4/8/2026 12:18 PM, Lameass Larry (aka Distro Lackey) wrote:

    Only Gentoo allows the user to configure.


    What if we consider it a waste of time to configure our software for
    virtually no measurable improvement, physically or psychologically?

    What if I'd rather chop and dig up 15 bushes in my front yard?

    Do you get it, you deranged one-note dweeb?

    GFIA



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  • From jmj@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 00:52:58 2026
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    W dniu 8.04.2026 o 23:04, Lawrence D’Oliveiro pisze:
    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat

    This is only half true: Since 2018-10-28, sun. Fedora belongs to evil
    IBM corpo, which made German concentration camps available.

    There is not so bad Jewish book about IBM and III Reich business:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust>

    , but the book leave important/basic questions without answers. For eg.:
    1. Why there is only one photograph IBM machine in whole book?
    2. Why the photograph of IBM machine is silly described?
    3. Why lack in the book complete photograph catalogue all IBM machines
    used in concentration camps in III Reich?
    4. Why lack in the book complete catalogue with description about all
    tasks can be performed by IBM machines used in concentration camps in
    III Reich?
    5. Why lack in the book description how IBM machines were used every day
    by concentration camps SS staff?
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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Wed Apr 8 22:55:03 2026
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    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company. He doesn't
    have the brains to program. Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    What GNU/Linux requires is APPLICATIONS, but neither Poettering
    nor RedHat could ever deliver.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 11:46:35 2026
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    On 08/04/2026 23:55, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will
    automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company. He doesn't
    have the brains to program. Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    And that's why he now works for Microsoft


    What GNU/Linux requires is APPLICATIONS, but neither Poettering
    nor RedHat could ever deliver.

    --
    WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 07:58:49 2026
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    On Thu, 4/9/2026 6:46 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 08/04/2026 23:55, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will
    automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company.  He doesn't
    have the brains to program.  Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    And that's why he now works for Microsoft

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering

    Poettering worked for Red Hat from 2008 to 2022.[2][3]

    He then joined Microsoft.[4][5][6][7]

    In 2026, Poettering left Microsoft to cofound Amutable, <===
    a company focused on integrity verification for Linux systems.[8][9]

    And the review, is of the distro from Amutable.

    Based on the three reviews on the Distrowatch page,
    I would guess the "engine" of the OS is what they worked
    on first. The rest of what you would want in a distro
    is left for later.

    https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=origami

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 14:07:54 2026
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    On 2026-04-09 00:55, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    Oh no! It’s based on Fedora, which comes from Red Hat, the company
    that Lennart Poettering runs! This means that all our machines will
    automatically upgrade to running it next week!


    Poettering doesn't have the brains to run a company. He doesn't
    have the brains to program. Systemd is a piddling accomplishment
    that could have equaled by any script kiddy.

    Sure. Testified by the many people that have created working
    alternatives or improved existing alternatives.


    What GNU/Linux requires is APPLICATIONS, but neither Poettering
    nor RedHat could ever deliver.


    LOL.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Apr 9 10:50:33 2026
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    On 4/8/26 4:42 PM, CtrlAltDel wrote:
    On Wed, 08 Apr 2026 16:18:23 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:

    Only Gentoo allows the user to configure.

    Only Gentoo.

    Brother, if you ain't using Gentoo then you are one sick fuck.

    I heard that Gentoo Sux though. Who wants to use a Linux distro that is universally disliked and ridiculed as much as Gentoo is? There must be something seriously wrong with Gentoo.


    Gentoo is for experimenting, Larry is using it for the wrong purpose.
    That's what makes it "sux".
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Thu Apr 9 23:04:00 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 14:07:54 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    On 2026-04-09 00:55, Distro Lackey wrote:

    Systemd is a piddling accomplishment that could have equaled by any
    script kiddy.

    Sure. Testified by the many people that have created working
    alternatives or improved existing alternatives.

    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.

    <https://github.com/InitWare/InitWare>
    <https://github.com/Jamesits/SvcGuest>
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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 01:01:10 2026
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    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    Systemd is useful only to those who can't do anything for themselves,
    i.e. a distro lackey.

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  • From DFS@nospam@dfs.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Apr 9 21:50:47 2026
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    On 4/9/2026 9:01 PM, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.


    And because you lifted it directly from LFS.

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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 05:51:06 2026
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    At Wed, 8 Apr 2026 17:46:03 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> wrote:

    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>

    Why do you nutzos think people will want such a monstrosity?

    ObReply:

    I saw your comments, DFS, just haven't gotten caught up with
    this group yet.
    --
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Apr 10 05:54:53 2026
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    At Wed, 08 Apr 2026 16:18:23 +0000, Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 17:46:03 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:


    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!


    All GNU/Linux distros are fucking worthless junk because all distros completely stifle the most important aspect of GNU/Linux which is
    the ability to CONFIGURE.

    SYSCTL(8) System Administration SYSCTL(8)

    NAME
    sysctl - configure kernel parameters at runtime

    SYNOPSIS
    sysctl [options] [variable[=value]] [...]
    sysctl -p [file or regexp] [...]

    DESCRIPTION
    sysctl is used to modify kernel parameters at runtime.
    The parameters available are those listed under
    /proc/sys/. Procfs is required for sysctl support in
    Linux. You can use sysctl to both read and write sysctl
    data.
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    OS: Linux 6.17.0-19-generic D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile (6G) 580.126.09
    "Remember, Subaru spelled backwards is U-R-A-BUS."
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 10:39:58 2026
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    On 2026-04-10 03:01, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    Systemd is useful only to those who can't do anything for themselves,
    i.e. a distro lackey.


    Yeah, sure.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux on Fri Apr 10 08:56:19 2026
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    At Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:39:58 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-04-10 03:01, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    Systemd is useful only to those who can't do anything for themselves,
    i.e. a distro lackey.


    Yeah, sure.

    Word on the street is that he ripped off his "personal init system"
    from LFS.

    Loopy Larry also runs his system with no cgroups, MAC, or security
    mitigations in his kernel. Indeed, he's apparently never heard
    of sysctl(8). I don't think he's as familiar with Linux as he
    plays at...

    He also can't build vanilla kernels and run them, because he
    relies on his distro to feed him his kernels. Nom-nom-nom,
    just like a "distro lackey" should...
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Apr 11 12:26:06 2026
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    On 4/8/2026 11:46 PM, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


    So... What're the most important features this distribution offering? :)

    I rather stick with the original root of all these derived distributions.
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Apr 11 12:27:03 2026
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    On 4/9/2026 12:45 AM, c186282 wrote:

    3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
    run their distro (and half my computing is
    on PIs these days anyhow).

    You can build perfectly good and secure servers
    on top of vanilla Debian, Arch derivs or even
    Centos (if you can stand the Gnome DT (I can't))
    or some of the BSDs. In short the world doesn't
    need Origami or their weird schemes.

    Wanna bring in FreeBSD to compare? :)
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Apr 11 06:46:05 2026
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    On Sat, 11 Apr 2026 12:27:03 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Wanna bring in FreeBSD to compare? :)

    No smiley. Somebody already did that.

    Chapter 1 <https://www.zdnet.com/article/freebsd-linux-review/>, full
    of effusive praise:

    Sure, I talk a lot about how reliable Debian is, but even Debian
    can't touch the stability of FreeBSD.

    Chapter 2 <https://www.zdnet.com/article/freebsd-linux-review/>,
    enthusiasm waning ever so slightly:

    Once you get FreeBSD up and running, you can absolutely rely on
    it.

    Getting it up and running is the issue.

    and

    However, upon glancing at the start menu, there were very few apps
    installed. So, I fired up KDE Discover, only to find out it
    wouldn't work. The reason for this is PackageKit, an open-source
    software suite that simplifies the installation and management of
    software packages on Linux systems. Simplify, being the operative
    word.

    Unfortunately, PackageKit continually crashed, so KDE Discover was
    useless, and all app installations had to be done via the command
    line. Given I'm very comfortable with the command line, that's
    perfectly fine.

    On a whim, I installed GNOME, but the GDM login manager wouldn't
    start, so I stuck with KDE Plasma.

    Then finally, Chapter 3 <https://www.zdnet.com/article/best-linux-server-distros-for-your-home-lab/>:

    The primary reason I would recommend Debian as your server OS is
    its legendary stability. There simply is not a more stable OS on
    the planet. Some people might argue that Slackware is more stable
    because of its Unix-like nature. I say this call is too close to
    make, but either OS is solid. However, Debian is easier to use.

    No more mention of FreeBSD at all ...
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Apr 11 10:36:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Le 08-04-2026, Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> a écrit :

    All GNU/Linux distros are fucking worthless junk

    The only one distro in the world which is a fucking worthless junk is
    yours because it's the only one who require a Microsoft Windows VM to be
    able to access Internet. You are the only one who never managed to avoid Microsoft when everyone else in the world can.

    because all distros
    completely stifle the most important aspect of GNU/Linux which is

    To be able to use it to do whatever one wants to do. On some usages
    (mostly games, but it's improving) Windows can be requested. But there
    is no reported case where your distro can do something without requesting Microsoft when another couldn't. But there is at least one reporting
    case of what your distro can't do without requesting Microsoft where
    others have not that limitation. So, this case is so baffling that I'm
    sure it would be easy to find a lot of other cases in favor of
    mainstream distro against yours.

    the ability to CONFIGURE.

    That's one of your biggest lies. The distro doesn't remove the
    configuration files. If you know nothing about real useful distros (well
    anyone except the one you are using), you should avoid proving anyone
    you are the most limited boy in the world.

    Any brainless child in the world could configure a mainstream distro
    more usefully than you.

    The fact that you can't find the configuration files or the
    configuration options doesn't mean they don't exist. That mean you are
    not designed to learn anything about computers. And that proves at the
    same time that I was right to say I don't believe that you can learn
    anything reading a book on advanced assembly concepts.

    Without the ability to configure a distro can only create a stunted
    and hollow shell of an OS.

    It looks that's the definition of your distro. It's clearly not the
    definition of a mainstream distro.

    Of course, the motherfucking distro lackeys cannot care because all motherfucking distro lackeys are stupid and intellectually lazy fucks.

    The truth is they care about the configurations possibilities but they
    don't fight what is given to them because they know how to do
    effortlessly what you are so unable to do that you have to claim it's impossible.

    One of my machines, based on a 12-year-old Core i7-4770, can
    rival any more recent machines due to superior configuration,
    and this is proven beyond doubt via benchmarks.

    Test: buy your own food on a website.
    On any modern machine: start it, launch a web browser, process, done.
    On your own old machine: start it, launch a VM, start Microsoft Windows,
    launch a browser, process, done.

    There are no real benchmark in the world which can be in favor of your
    machine. Either you dreamed the benchmark or you falsify the numbers. To
    be in favor of your machine the only possibility would be to have more
    power to compensate the VM.

    Only Gentoo allows the user to configure.

    It's just a lie.

    Only Gentoo.

    Repeating the same lie doesn't make it true.

    Brother,

    I'm not your brother.

    if you ain't using Gentoo then you are one sick fuck.

    Before following your advice, anyone sane in one's head should require
    you to have a full working computer first. Which will never happen. So
    doing the opposite of that is the wisest advice one can get.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Apr 11 10:38:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Le 10-04-2026, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
    On 4/9/2026 9:01 PM, Distro Lackey wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


    And nobody wants to recreate systemd on their own systems, do they?
    Because they surely have something better already.


    I have.

    No, you don't.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    No, it's because it doesn't work. And it would show if you published it.

    And because you lifted it directly from LFS.

    No, he didn't because it would work.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Apr 11 13:51:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 11 Apr 2026 10:36:11 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    the ability to CONFIGURE.

    That's one of your biggest lies. The distro doesn't remove the
    configuration files.


    I do not refer to the configuration of RUN TIME behavior.

    I refer to the ability to configure BUILD TIME behavior.

    For one thing, programs do not run in RAM; they run in
    cache. The software supplied by distros is not optimized
    for cache. How could it be? Each brand of processor
    has different cache sizes. Optimizing for cache does
    make a significant difference.

    With gcc it is possible to specify the exact cache sizes:

    --param l1-cache-size=
    --param l1-cache-line-size=
    --param l2-cache-size=
    -malign-data=cacheline

    At first I did not believe that it would make a difference
    but benchmarks have convinced me otherwise.

    Also, distro software is crippled with security "features."

    Try the "checksec" command on any executable or library.
    The ideal results are shown here:

    checksec file /bin/bash

    RELRO Stack Canary NX PIE RPATH RUNPATH Symbols FORTIFY Fortified Fortifiable Name
    No RELRO No Canary Found NX enabled PIE Disabled No RPATH No RUNPATH No Symbols No 0 12 /bin/bash

    As is seen, my custom-built files show no security.
    Distro files would show complete (i.e. crippling)
    security.

    Note the absence of a "stack canary" which, if present,
    would significantly degrade performance.

    At first I did not believe that it would make a difference
    but benchmarks have convinced me otherwise.

    YOU, however, have a LOT to learn, but it is doubtful
    that you will ever learn anything. You will always
    be totally dependent on a distro to make your choices.




    Test: buy your own food on a website.
    On any modern machine: start it, launch a web browser, process, done.
    On your own, start Microsoft Windows,
    launch a browser, process, done.


    This needs to be debugged. It could be as simple as
    changing a setting in about:config.

    However, I have much better things to do than to debug
    how a particular browser is handling a malformed commercial
    website that does not adhere to standards.

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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Apr 11 13:57:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 11 Apr 2026 10:38:59 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    I have.

    No, you don't.

    But I have never bothered to publish it because it is so fucking simple.

    No, it's because it doesn't work. And it would show if you published it.


    You are obviously very JEALOUS.

    You observe someone that is entirely free of all distros and
    you wish that you could be the same.

    But you can't. You NEVER will be free. You NEVER will be
    in total control of your machine. NEVER.

    You are destined to be forever at the mercy of RedHat/Ubuntu/Etc.


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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Apr 11 10:17:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 4/11/26 9:57 AM, Distro Lackey wrote:

    You observe someone that is entirely free of all distros and
    you wish that you could be the same.

    But you can't. You NEVER will be free. You NEVER will be
    in total control of your machine. NEVER.

    You are destined to be forever at the mercy of RedHat/Ubuntu/Etc.


    Linus Torvalds likes Fedora, dummy.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Woozy Song@suzyw0ng@outlook.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 16:00:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


      1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

      2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
         to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

      3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
         run their distro (and half my computing is
         on PIs these days anyhow).


    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 08:03:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Woozy Song wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


       1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

       2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
          to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

       3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
          run their distro (and half my computing is
          on PIs these days anyhow).


    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.

    figures
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 14:40:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    c186282 wrote:

    ??Jacek Marcin Jaworski?? wrote:

    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>

    Good review, even though he clearly doesn't like it.

    1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

    2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
    to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

    3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
    run their distro (and half my computing is
    on PIs these days anyhow).

    You can build perfectly good and secure servers
    on top of vanilla Debian, Arch derivs or even
    Centos (if you can stand the Gnome DT (I can't))
    or some of the BSDs. In short the world doesn't
    need Origami or their weird schemes.

    But then everybody thinks they have the Better Plan.

    It probably is a Better Plan, for some subset of the market. As the
    reviewer says, this distro "underlines how important it is to have
    multiple distributions in the world. Not only because I very much want
    to use an operating system which is the polar opposite of Origami
    Linux, but also because I'm aware there are probably lots of people in
    the world who will be delighted to have a bleeding-edge,
    Flatpak-focused, Wayland-powered, immutable, build-optimized
    distribution. People should have the freedom to choose what they want,
    whether I like it or not. Just as I would like to have options which
    match my workflow and preferences."
    --
    "i<=22? Look at the clueless wonder go! That bit of shit-code does
    two int comparisons on each iteration of the loop" - "DFS", putting
    his ignorance on display
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Apr 16 14:46:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    % wrote:

    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.

    figures

    What do you use, nose-picker?

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Apr 16 17:45:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 4/16/26 11:03, % wrote:
    Woozy Song wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/8/26 11:46, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    Hello!

    The good days are over also for Linux fan boyz! Read this thriller
    review - probably this is near future!

    <https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260406#origami>


       1) I don't love Fedora/RHEL derivs very much

       2) Fuck "MOK" ... sounds like the Ubuntu scheme
          to entrap everyone in their cloud services.

       3) I'm not gonna buy all new hardware just to
          run their distro (and half my computing is
          on PIs these days anyhow).


    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.

    figures

    They work !

    And fairly low-end laptops and PIs do everything I need
    these days. Don't do video games. Don't do 8k streaming.
    Not running a corporate web server.

    Still have a working Core2-Quad ... and it runs quite
    well with Linux. WILL run 8/16 bit apps, you can boot
    CP/M-86. Also has plugs for floppies on board. A keeper.

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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Apr 17 09:58:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    chrisv wrote:
    % wrote:

    I am still using Skylake/Kaby Lake with similar vintage GPU 2 or 4 GB.

    figures

    What do you use, nose-picker?

    i use your face , goop gobbler
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