On 1/28/26 7:11 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:05, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 15:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me. Make >>>>>> sure you order direct from them because there are many
knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
Just less useful than the Apple product it mostly copies...
She seemed to be recommending them specifically to track the
location of a smartphone - if they're more like just a clone of
AirTags, I'd find that questionable to use for that purpose.
Wow. You can't read for comprehension, can you?
I comprehended your and her arguments, neither entirely convinced me,
but then again I don't have any intention of buying anything like these products.
On 2026-01-29, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:19 PM, Alan wrote:
Apple so blatantly works for
bourgeois first worlders, with what they offer, the iPhone and >>>>>>>> iPad are actually pretty decent though, not that I would buy them, >>>>>>>> but even though Samsung does have a bourgeois department they also >>>>>>>> have a dedication to offering the best alternative to the iPhone. >>>>>>>> It's simply a better business to patronize, for such an essential >>>>>>>> possession.
I always love the way you have to immediately pivot away from the >>>>>>> arguments they just made.
And your penchant for using emotionally charged words (bourgeois). >>>>>>>
The simple fact is that Apple's customer loyalty is fantastic.
You don't get that unless you produce products that those customers >>>>>>> VALUE.
What makes Samsung a "better business patronize" for a smartphone? >>>>>>>
Would it be there very recent "promise" to provide support for longer? >>>>>>>
If they really were a "better business patronize"...
...wouldn't that have already been true?
My Galaxy S21 still performs as well as it did when I got it. It >>>>>> surprises me how many people upgrade frequently.
OK... ...so? When did you actually get it?
In 2021 ...
My iPhone 16 "still performs as well as it did when I got it".Not saying that. In fact, I bought an iPhone 12 model as a gift,
Prove that your S21 is any better at this than a contemporaneous iPhone. >>>>
which is about as old as what I have, seemed fine to me.
So then when I asked 'What makes Samsung a "better business [to]
patronize" for a smartphone...
...you answered with irrelevant bullshit.
Got it.
It's relevant because what I got didn't come from Apple.
ROTFLMAO!!
Can't argue with that response.
I purchased my Spotminders back in June 2025. They had a special buy 2 get 2 free
so I ended up spending $88 for Qty 4 tax, shipping, tip included.
I have one in my purse, hidden. One in my wallet and it looks exactly like a credit
card and is same size, and 1 hidden in each of my 2 cars.
Sometime in late October, early November, the app told me they needed to be chargedName brand CR2032 batteries @ $1.36 each.
so I charged them and am good for another 5- 6 months. No battery replacement needed.
Prove that your S21 is any better at this than a contemporaneous >>>>>>> iPhone.
Not saying that. In fact, I bought an iPhone 12 model as a gift, >>>>>> which is about as old as what I have, seemed fine to me.
So then when I asked 'What makes Samsung a "better business [to]
patronize" for a smartphone...
...you answered with irrelevant bullshit.
Got it.
It's relevant because what I got didn't come from Apple.
But what makes it, "simply a better business to patronize"?
Apple's flagship iPhone is the iPhone 17 Pro (and Pro Max), and it's
opening price is $1099 with 256GB of storage.
Show me how Samsung is offering a similar product for a much
different price.
The problem with the iPhone is that it's an Apple product.
So despite your claims about Apple users, this is really about your irrational reaction to a particular company.
Got it.
We should want to punish Apple any way possible.
Why? What have they done to deserve (and I can absolutely believe you'd
use this word): "punishment"?
Buying the one good product they make fails to hold their feet to the
fire
I see. So you admit that the iPhone is a "good product"...
...in direct contradiction to dozens of other posts you've made.
Got it.
- but fortunately Samsung comes to the rescue, as they have for some
time.
In what way? Are their smartphones notably less expensive than the equivalent iPhones?
No serious person has owned an iPhone since the early 2010s.
And you finish with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy!
On 2026-01-28 16:35, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 7:11 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:05, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 15:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me. Make >>>>>>> sure you order direct from them because there are many
knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
Just less useful than the Apple product it mostly copies...
She seemed to be recommending them specifically to track the
location of a smartphone - if they're more like just a clone of
AirTags, I'd find that questionable to use for that purpose.
Wow. You can't read for comprehension, can you?
I comprehended your and her arguments, neither entirely convinced me,
but then again I don't have any intention of buying anything like
these products.
You didn't comprehend she said absolutely nothing related to:
"track[ing] the location of a smartphone"
On 1/28/26 8:04 PM, Alan wrote:
Prove that your S21 is any better at this than a contemporaneous >>>>>>>> iPhone.
Not saying that. In fact, I bought an iPhone 12 model as a gift, >>>>>>> which is about as old as what I have, seemed fine to me.
So then when I asked 'What makes Samsung a "better business [to]
patronize" for a smartphone...
...you answered with irrelevant bullshit.
Got it.
It's relevant because what I got didn't come from Apple.
But what makes it, "simply a better business to patronize"?
Apple's flagship iPhone is the iPhone 17 Pro (and Pro Max), and it's
opening price is $1099 with 256GB of storage.
Show me how Samsung is offering a similar product for a much
different price.
The problem with the iPhone is that it's an Apple product.
So despite your claims about Apple users, this is really about your
irrational reaction to a particular company.
Got it.
My claims about Apple users are bullshit, yeah. I mean, there are
extreme examples that could caricature Mac users, but that doesn't hold
up to the statistics of people using Macs. It's fair to say that Apple makes me pretty deranged and yet they behave pretty deranged, so, ya know.
We should want to punish Apple any way possible.
Why? What have they done to deserve (and I can absolutely believe
you'd use this word): "punishment"?
Well, let's think about it from a perspective we'd at least agree is
worth considering - Apple through their Mac product line does serve a
real need in computing.
There are people who simply get better results
using Apple's equipment for a PC, their software to run it.
As such,
the price gouging on hardware sales does trouble me, as a regulator.
I
don't know that it crosses the line into requiring government oversight
and yet it certainly does ask that question.
If they're continuing to
make the base unit have 256 GB storage, but the next step up is $200
extra, at what point is that not just transparent gouging?
Why is 256
still an option?
How friggin' cheap is the company that isn't cheap to
buy from?!
Buying the one good product they make fails to hold their feet to the
fire
I see. So you admit that the iPhone is a "good product"...
...in direct contradiction to dozens of other posts you've made.
Got it.
I stand by my criticism of iOS, but these critiques are too minor to
enter into the larger comparison of an iPhone to a comparable Samsung
model.
- but fortunately Samsung comes to the rescue, as they have for some
time.
In what way? Are their smartphones notably less expensive than the
equivalent iPhones?
Not less expensive but as good without being iPhones.
No serious person has owned an iPhone since the early 2010s.
And you finish with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy!
It's obviously hyperbole.Is it now?
On 1/28/26 8:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:35, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 7:11 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:05, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 15:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me.
Make sure you order direct from them because there are many
knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
Just less useful than the Apple product it mostly copies...
She seemed to be recommending them specifically to track the
location of a smartphone - if they're more like just a clone of
AirTags, I'd find that questionable to use for that purpose.
Wow. You can't read for comprehension, can you?
I comprehended your and her arguments, neither entirely convinced me,
but then again I don't have any intention of buying anything like
these products.
You didn't comprehend she said absolutely nothing related to:
"track[ing] the location of a smartphone"
OK, well, my interest in the topic only went so far, so my comprehension
is limited to what I spent time on before proceeding, since I don't want
to get bogged down in a Usenet thing without there being something productive to achieve in it.
Prove that your S21 is any better at this than a
contemporaneous iPhone.
Not saying that. In fact, I bought an iPhone 12 model as a
gift, which is about as old as what I have, seemed fine to me.
So then when I asked 'What makes Samsung a "better business [to] >>>>>>> patronize" for a smartphone...
...you answered with irrelevant bullshit.
Got it.
It's relevant because what I got didn't come from Apple.
But what makes it, "simply a better business to patronize"?
Apple's flagship iPhone is the iPhone 17 Pro (and Pro Max), and
it's opening price is $1099 with 256GB of storage.
Show me how Samsung is offering a similar product for a much
different price.
The problem with the iPhone is that it's an Apple product.
So despite your claims about Apple users, this is really about your
irrational reaction to a particular company.
Got it.
My claims about Apple users are bullshit, yeah. I mean, there are
extreme examples that could caricature Mac users, but that doesn't
hold up to the statistics of people using Macs. It's fair to say that
Apple makes me pretty deranged and yet they behave pretty deranged,
so, ya know.
No. I do NOT know.
I've worked with people who use Macs and iPhones (and iPads) for
decades, and they're no more "deranged" than any other group.
We should want to punish Apple any way possible.
Why? What have they done to deserve (and I can absolutely believe
you'd use this word): "punishment"?
Well, let's think about it from a perspective we'd at least agree is
worth considering - Apple through their Mac product line does serve a
real need in computing.
That's an unsupported assertion.
Apple's Mac product line serves the real needs of its users so well,
they almost never EVER want to use anything else ever again.
There are people who simply get better results using Apple's equipment
for a PC, their software to run it.
Not even an understandable sentence...
As such, the price gouging on hardware sales does trouble me, as a
regulator.
You're NOT a "regulator".
I don't know that it crosses the line into requiring government
oversight and yet it certainly does ask that question.
Only in your (self-admitted) deranged mind.
If they're continuing to make the base unit have 256 GB storage, but
the next step up is $200 extra, at what point is that not just
transparent gouging?
Because offering people products they freely purchase isn't gouging of
any kind.
Why is 256 still an option?
Because it still works fine for many users.
How friggin' cheap is the company that isn't cheap to buy from?!
How is that relevant?
- but fortunately Samsung comes to the rescue, as they have for some
time.
In what way? Are their smartphones notably less expensive than the
equivalent iPhones?
Not less expensive but as good without being iPhones.
So it's about your hatred, not articulable, objective facts.
Got it.
No serious person has owned an iPhone since the early 2010s.
And you finish with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy!
It's obviously hyperbole.
Is it now?
So then you admit many "serious person[s]" own iPhones and choose to continue to use iPhones when it comes time to buy a new smartphone...
...right?
On 2026-01-28 17:26, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 8:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:35, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 7:11 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:05, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 15:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me. >>>>>>>>> Make sure you order direct from them because there are many
knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
Just less useful than the Apple product it mostly copies...
She seemed to be recommending them specifically to track the
location of a smartphone - if they're more like just a clone of
AirTags, I'd find that questionable to use for that purpose.
Wow. You can't read for comprehension, can you?
I comprehended your and her arguments, neither entirely convinced
me, but then again I don't have any intention of buying anything
like these products.
You didn't comprehend she said absolutely nothing related to:
"track[ing] the location of a smartphone"
OK, well, my interest in the topic only went so far, so my
comprehension is limited to what I spent time on before proceeding,
since I don't want to get bogged down in a Usenet thing without there
being something productive to achieve in it.
You don't want to bother reading that which might educate you.
Got it.
On 1/28/26 8:29 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 17:26, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 8:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:35, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 7:11 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 16:05, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:27 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 15:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me. >>>>>>>>>> Make sure you order direct from them because there are many >>>>>>>>>> knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
Just less useful than the Apple product it mostly copies...
She seemed to be recommending them specifically to track the
location of a smartphone - if they're more like just a clone of
AirTags, I'd find that questionable to use for that purpose.
Wow. You can't read for comprehension, can you?
I comprehended your and her arguments, neither entirely convinced
me, but then again I don't have any intention of buying anything
like these products.
You didn't comprehend she said absolutely nothing related to:
"track[ing] the location of a smartphone"
OK, well, my interest in the topic only went so far, so my
comprehension is limited to what I spent time on before proceeding,
since I don't want to get bogged down in a Usenet thing without there
being something productive to achieve in it.
You don't want to bother reading that which might educate you.
Got it.
If I have no need for a product like that why would it really educate me?
On 2026-01-28 15:40, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-28, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me. Make
sure you order direct from them because there are many
knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
They are. From AI "airtag vs spotminders" Brave search.
"Spotminders and Apple AirTag both use the Apple Find My network for
tracking, but they are designed for different use cases and offer
distinct advantages.
That's not the Spotminders TAG you claimed to be touting.
That's the Spotminders "Tracking Card".
Amazon's current price on a Duracell CR2032 8 pack is $9.18 .. that'sSpotminders: $44 (discounts available), one-time purchase with no
ongoing costs. AirTag: $29, but requires repeated battery
replacements, leading to higher long-term cost. Bottom Line
Even a name-brand CR2032 battery (Duracell), purchased as a single costs $3.29 at Amazon. So the difference in cost pays for 4.5 battery replacements.
On 1/28/26 18:53, Alan wrote:
On 2026-01-28 15:40, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-28, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/26 5:56 PM, pothead wrote:
Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use
"Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me. Make
sure you order direct from them because there are many
knockoffs out there.
I just wouldn't need that. I see why they could be useful.
They are. From AI "airtag vs spotminders" Brave search.
"Spotminders and Apple AirTag both use the Apple Find My network for
tracking, but they are designed for different use cases and offer
distinct advantages.
That's not the Spotminders TAG you claimed to be touting.
That's the Spotminders "Tracking Card".
FWIW, what I find curious is the "both use the Apple Find My Network":
does this mean that Spotminder is freeloading their product off of
someone else's services/infrastructure?
Amazon's current price on a Duracell CR2032 8 pack is $9.18 .. that'sSpotminders: $44 (discounts available), one-time purchase with no
ongoing costs. AirTag: $29, but requires repeated battery
replacements, leading to higher long-term cost. Bottom Line
Even a name-brand CR2032 battery (Duracell), purchased as a single costs
$3.29 at Amazon. So the difference in cost pays for 4.5 battery
replacements.
just over a buck each.
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out when
their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found it easy and probably more effective just to track battery replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've already averaged over 18 months and
are due, so I'll just change them out before the spring trip. At
~$1/year and 4/$99, the financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die
during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you
were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die >>> during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Some additional information.
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.Let's deal with this list:
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you
were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
On 2026-01-29 17:05, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die >>>> during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Some additional information.
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Oh, my!
You've just replied twice because you had additional thoughts!
That means you've "gone bonkers...
..right
:-)
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.Let's deal with this list:
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
'1. Finally, a Tracker That Actually Fits Your Wallet'
True... ...but since that wasn't the product you told me you were using
when you initially brought Spotminders up, irrelevant.
'2. Thieves Have No Idea It Exists
Here's what every pickpocket knows: that distinctive white AirTag disc
means "expensive stuff inside." The first thing they do after stealing
your bag? Look for the obvious tracking device and toss it.
Spotminders cards look exactly like blank hotel key cards or gym
membership cards. '
Except for saying "Spotminders" right on the face of the card complete
with the radio symbol.
But thieves could POSSIBLY figure out what it is...right?
Second, 'that distinctive white AirTag disc means "expensive stuff
inside."' only applies...
...if you can SEE it from the OUTside...
...right?
'3. No More Battery Panic at the Worst Possible Moments
Spotminders cards are rechargeable and last 5 months per charge. Just
drop them on any wireless charger for a couple hours.'
AirTag CR2032 batteries last about a year, but I guess we should be
grateful that Spotminders is no longer lying about them not being replaceable.
And if you Spotminder card IS dead when you want to leave your house...
...isn't it worse to have to wait a couple of of hours to charge it?
'4. Travel Without the Baggage Claim Anxiety
5. The Perfect Gift That Actually Gets Used'
Those are EXACTLY what you get with an AirTag...
...aren't they?'
'7. End the Daily "Where Did I Put..." Routine
With Spotminders, that routine becomes: open phone, see exact location,
walk directly to item. Or make it beep if you're close but can't see it.'
Or with an AirTag get an arrow pointing you in the exact direction of
the item.
'9. Set It and Forget It Simplicity
AirTags require constant battery monitoring and replacement.
Spotminders? Charge them once every 5 months and forget they exist. The cards handle everything automatically - tracking, alerts, sound activation.'
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...
...how is this an advantage?
On 1/28/26 8:28 PM, Alan wrote:
So then when I asked 'What makes Samsung a "better business [to] >>>>>>>> patronize" for a smartphone...Prove that your S21 is any better at this than a
contemporaneous iPhone.
Not saying that. In fact, I bought an iPhone 12 model as a >>>>>>>>> gift, which is about as old as what I have, seemed fine to me. >>>>>>>
...you answered with irrelevant bullshit.
Got it.
It's relevant because what I got didn't come from Apple.
But what makes it, "simply a better business to patronize"?
Apple's flagship iPhone is the iPhone 17 Pro (and Pro Max), and
it's opening price is $1099 with 256GB of storage.
Show me how Samsung is offering a similar product for a much
different price.
The problem with the iPhone is that it's an Apple product.
So despite your claims about Apple users, this is really about your
irrational reaction to a particular company.
Got it.
My claims about Apple users are bullshit, yeah. I mean, there are
extreme examples that could caricature Mac users, but that doesn't
hold up to the statistics of people using Macs. It's fair to say
that Apple makes me pretty deranged and yet they behave pretty
deranged, so, ya know.
No. I do NOT know.
I've worked with people who use Macs and iPhones (and iPads) for
decades, and they're no more "deranged" than any other group.
I was talking about Apple corporate.
We should want to punish Apple any way possible.
Why? What have they done to deserve (and I can absolutely believe
you'd use this word): "punishment"?
Well, let's think about it from a perspective we'd at least agree is
worth considering - Apple through their Mac product line does serve a
real need in computing.
That's an unsupported assertion.
Apple's Mac product line serves the real needs of its users so well,
they almost never EVER want to use anything else ever again.
Yeah so ask yourself why, you yourself have talked up repeatedly buying Macs, you probably have the slightest insight.
"Real need in computing"
here means that there is more than a niche market for macOS and software designed for it.
I myself almost liked it, I admit, the Unix components
made it something of value, but the Apple GUI is just too tragic.
But
for those who really benefit from using Macs, there isn't an
alternative, and it seems that Apple could do more to offer them
something of a competitive deal on a system.
There are people who simply get better results using Apple's
equipment for a PC, their software to run it.
Not even an understandable sentence...
You're not trying very hard, then. But that's OK, I know your only goal here is to compete with me.
As such, the price gouging on hardware sales does trouble me, as a
regulator.
You're NOT a "regulator".
I could make Apple repay its customers for overcharging them over a long period of time. But I know better than to overuse authority.
I don't know that it crosses the line into requiring government
oversight and yet it certainly does ask that question.
Only in your (self-admitted) deranged mind.
They probably would end up getting away with it because it's like some proprietary luxuries, unfortunately, you pay to play and these right- brained Mac users are gonna have to play by Apple's rules, even as it
makes them look like sheep. I can't just wave my hand and set their prices, though they push their luck about it frankly.
If they're continuing to make the base unit have 256 GB storage, but
the next step up is $200 extra, at what point is that not just
transparent gouging?
Because offering people products they freely purchase isn't gouging of
any kind.
It is gouging because if they want a non-joke of a computer they have to
pay so much extra that they're doing more than their fair share to
support the product line. It's ridiculous.
Why is 256 still an option?
Because it still works fine for many users.
And it's reasonable to cost $200 to double it?
How friggin' cheap is the company that isn't cheap to buy from?!
How is that relevant?
If all their revenue for the Mac line is hardware sales, it's weird how
they don't focus more on having competitive hardware, but that's Apple,
and you end up having a point because I have more judgment than to
meddle in their pricing scheme, obvious though it is to be gouging in
real truth, self-evident observation, but the Apple fanboys will come up with whatever stoned theory why it makes sense to pay $200 for half of a
512 GB SSD.
- but fortunately Samsung comes to the rescue, as they have for
some time.
In what way? Are their smartphones notably less expensive than the
equivalent iPhones?
Not less expensive but as good without being iPhones.
So it's about your hatred, not articulable, objective facts.
Got it.
Basically yeah, I hate Apple with a severe passion, almost to the point
of obsession.
It has led me to even exaggerate including personal
attacks on Mac users, but I try to also actually address the real
matters at work, and Apple is guilty of a lot.
No serious person has owned an iPhone since the early 2010s.
And you finish with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy!
It's obviously hyperbole.
Is it now?
So then you admit many "serious person[s]" own iPhones and choose to
continue to use iPhones when it comes time to buy a new smartphone...
...right?
As I mentioned, I bought one for another person. That I would do, she wanted that particular model. I had some extra money to spend at theWhich literally has NOTHING to do with my text which preceded it.
time, and it seemed cool. But if it were for me, it would not be an iPhone.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:05, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found >>>>>>> it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose >>>>>>> batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've >>>>>>> already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change >>>>>>> them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is >>>>>> in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die >>>>> during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an >>>>>> Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you >>>>> were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i >>>>>> use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were >>>>> using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Some additional information.
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Oh, my!
You've just replied twice because you had additional thoughts!
That means you've "gone bonkers...
..right
:-)
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.Let's deal with this list:
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
'1. Finally, a Tracker That Actually Fits Your Wallet'
True... ...but since that wasn't the product you told me you were using
when you initially brought Spotminders up, irrelevant.
'2. Thieves Have No Idea It Exists
Here's what every pickpocket knows: that distinctive white AirTag disc
means "expensive stuff inside." The first thing they do after stealing
your bag? Look for the obvious tracking device and toss it.
Spotminders cards look exactly like blank hotel key cards or gym
membership cards. '
Except for saying "Spotminders" right on the face of the card complete
with the radio symbol.
But thieves could POSSIBLY figure out what it is...right?
Second, 'that distinctive white AirTag disc means "expensive stuff
inside."' only applies...
...if you can SEE it from the OUTside...
...right?
'3. No More Battery Panic at the Worst Possible Moments
Spotminders cards are rechargeable and last 5 months per charge. Just
drop them on any wireless charger for a couple hours.'
AirTag CR2032 batteries last about a year, but I guess we should be
grateful that Spotminders is no longer lying about them not being
replaceable.
And if you Spotminder card IS dead when you want to leave your house...
...isn't it worse to have to wait a couple of of hours to charge it?
'4. Travel Without the Baggage Claim Anxiety
5. The Perfect Gift That Actually Gets Used'
Those are EXACTLY what you get with an AirTag...
...aren't they?'
'7. End the Daily "Where Did I Put..." Routine
With Spotminders, that routine becomes: open phone, see exact location,
walk directly to item. Or make it beep if you're close but can't see it.'
Or with an AirTag get an arrow pointing you in the exact direction of
the item.
'9. Set It and Forget It Simplicity
AirTags require constant battery monitoring and replacement.
Spotminders? Charge them once every 5 months and forget they exist. The
cards handle everything automatically - tracking, alerts, sound activation.' >>
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...
...how is this an advantage?
Valiant effort but once again you lose.
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email notifying you that it's time to charge.
Sorry Anal but your over reaction to my innocuous , non partisan post shows what a fan fanboy for Apple you are.
YOU are the one who turned this into an Apple vs others post.
And it's the same tactic you use when trolling other groups and topics.
You simply cannot accept that superior to Apple products do exist and that people
purchase them.
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you
were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...Valiant effort but once again you lose.
...how is this an advantage?
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email notifying you that it's time to charge.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an >>>>>> alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you >>> were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an >>>>>>> alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you >>>> were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Some additional information.
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out when
their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found it easy >>>>> and probably more effective just to track battery replacement dates. >>>>> For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose batteries have only
ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've already averaged over
18 months and are due, so I'll just change them out before the
spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the financial breakeven is out
in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might
die during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not
you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use
Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers playing
the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better
other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 01:05:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Some additional information.
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
I'm glad you brought these up. I have to admit that I would rather have
the Spotminders if only because they fit in the wallet. That's the issue I had with the AirTag.
In article <10lh2qr$1otk4$1@pothead.dont-email.me>,
pothead@snakebite.com says...
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions
an alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which
is better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally
bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product
you were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just
released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
Don't waste cycles replying to the Alan troll. He is an Apple zealot who
will never see other points of view. He will drive you crazy focusing on minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 20:58:11 -0500, JJ wrote:
In article <10lh2qr$1otk4$1@pothead.dont-email.me>,
pothead@snakebite.com says...
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a >>>>>>>>> lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions >>>>>>>>> an alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which >>>>>>>>> is better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally >>>>>>>>> bogus.LOL!
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product >>>>>> you were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just
released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
Don't waste cycles replying to the Alan troll. He is an Apple zealot who
will never see other points of view. He will drive you crazy focusing on
minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
I did that a while back. Anal had a way about him that irritated my
backside.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 20:58:11 -0500, JJ wrote:product
In article <10lh2qr$1otk4$1@pothead.dont-email.me>,
pothead@snakebite.com says...
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions
an alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which
is better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally
bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the
whoyou were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just
released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
Don't waste cycles replying to the Alan troll. He is an Apple zealot
onwill never see other points of view. He will drive you crazy focusing
minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
I did that a while back. Anal had a way about him that irritated my backside.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not
you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT.
Anal went bonkers playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all
based upon my post.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a lunatic
who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an alternative to
an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better other than
choice. That's a snit technique.
Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> news:10lgq5f$1mave$2@pothead.dont-email.me Thu, 29 Jan 2026 23:23:27 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
[snip]
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not
you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use
Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT.
Anal went bonkers playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all
based upon my post.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a lunatic
who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an alternative to
an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better other than
choice. That's a snit technique.
Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
He does seem a bit snit like.
Not just with technique. I had been wondering
what might be up with this person. You're the second person I know of that refers to him as Anal. I think I understand why after spending a little time interacting with him. I'm inclined to agree with the extreme Apple fanboy label.
On 2026-01-29, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
...
FWIW, what I find curious is the "both use the Apple Find My Network":
does this mean that Spotminder is freeloading their product off of
someone else's services/infrastructure?
Nope.
Spotminders is MFI certified my Apple.
Next.
<https://www.spotminders.com/products/spotminders-tracking-cards>
...
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is in pengo pengo?
As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the obvious.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card...
Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an Apple Airtag.
Many more advantages ...
however what I find interesting is how Anal, not you hh, jumped all
over my initial post where all I said was i use Spotminders rather than Airtag.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die
during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
On 1/29/26 18:23, pothead wrote:
<snip>
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your
luggage is in pengo pengo?
Pack a spare battery just in case you forgot to check pre-trip. BTDT.
But odds of it going dead while on a trip is pretty low, as Apple has an automatic "low battery" push notice, and IME the Airtag's battery life
is easily a few weeks longer, enough to get home from a typical one week long trip. All in all, it is quite low maintenance.
<snip>--
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found
it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose
batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've
already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change
them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die >>> during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i
use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Some additional information.
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:05, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out
when their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found >>>>>>> it easy and probably more effective just to track battery
replacement dates. For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose >>>>>>> batteries have only ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've >>>>>>> already averaged over 18 months and are due, so I'll just change >>>>>>> them out before the spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the
financial breakeven is out in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is >>>>>> in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might die >>>>> during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an >>>>>> Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you >>>>> were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal,
not you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i >>>>>> use Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers
playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my
post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were >>>>> using and an AirTag.
LOL!
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Some additional information.
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Oh, my!
You've just replied twice because you had additional thoughts!
That means you've "gone bonkers...
..right
:-)
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.Let's deal with this list:
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
'1. Finally, a Tracker That Actually Fits Your Wallet'
True... ...but since that wasn't the product you told me you were using
when you initially brought Spotminders up, irrelevant.
'2. Thieves Have No Idea It Exists
Here's what every pickpocket knows: that distinctive white AirTag disc
means "expensive stuff inside." The first thing they do after stealing
your bag? Look for the obvious tracking device and toss it.
Spotminders cards look exactly like blank hotel key cards or gym
membership cards. '
Except for saying "Spotminders" right on the face of the card complete
with the radio symbol.
But thieves could POSSIBLY figure out what it is...right?
Second, 'that distinctive white AirTag disc means "expensive stuff
inside."' only applies...
...if you can SEE it from the OUTside...
...right?
'3. No More Battery Panic at the Worst Possible Moments
Spotminders cards are rechargeable and last 5 months per charge. Just
drop them on any wireless charger for a couple hours.'
AirTag CR2032 batteries last about a year, but I guess we should be
grateful that Spotminders is no longer lying about them not being
replaceable.
And if you Spotminder card IS dead when you want to leave your house...
...isn't it worse to have to wait a couple of of hours to charge it?
'4. Travel Without the Baggage Claim Anxiety
5. The Perfect Gift That Actually Gets Used'
Those are EXACTLY what you get with an AirTag...
...aren't they?'
'7. End the Daily "Where Did I Put..." Routine
With Spotminders, that routine becomes: open phone, see exact location,
walk directly to item. Or make it beep if you're close but can't see it.'
Or with an AirTag get an arrow pointing you in the exact direction of
the item.
'9. Set It and Forget It Simplicity
AirTags require constant battery monitoring and replacement.
Spotminders? Charge them once every 5 months and forget they exist. The
cards handle everything automatically - tracking, alerts, sound activation.' >>
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...
...how is this an advantage?
Valiant effort but once again you lose.
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email notifying you that it's time to charge.
Sorry Anal but your over reaction to my innocuous , non partisan post shows what a fan fanboy for Apple you are.
YOU are the one who turned this into an Apple vs others post.
And it's the same tactic you use when trolling other groups and topics.
You simply cannot accept that superior to Apple products do exist and that people
purchase them.
You are a lunatic.
A snit in fact.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you
were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
The problem with the iPhone is that it's an Apple product.
So despite your claims about Apple users, this is really about your >>>>> irrational reaction to a particular company.
Got it.
My claims about Apple users are bullshit, yeah. I mean, there are
extreme examples that could caricature Mac users, but that doesn't
hold up to the statistics of people using Macs. It's fair to say
that Apple makes me pretty deranged and yet they behave pretty
deranged, so, ya know.
No. I do NOT know.
I've worked with people who use Macs and iPhones (and iPads) for
decades, and they're no more "deranged" than any other group.
I was talking about Apple corporate.
And in what way are THEY "deranged".
Watch out for circular argument here.
We should want to punish Apple any way possible.
Why? What have they done to deserve (and I can absolutely believe
you'd use this word): "punishment"?
Well, let's think about it from a perspective we'd at least agree is
worth considering - Apple through their Mac product line does serve
a real need in computing.
That's an unsupported assertion.
Apple's Mac product line serves the real needs of its users so well,
they almost never EVER want to use anything else ever again.
Yeah so ask yourself why, you yourself have talked up repeatedly
buying Macs, you probably have the slightest insight.
Again: not really English.
"Real need in computing" here means that there is more than a niche
market for macOS and software designed for it.
Circular argument.
macOS and software designed for it encompass the vast majority of things that people want to do with personal computers.
I myself almost liked it, I admit, the Unix components made it
something of value, but the Apple GUI is just too tragic.
In some way you'll never actually articulate...
But for those who really benefit from using Macs, there isn't an
alternative, and it seems that Apple could do more to offer them
something of a competitive deal on a system.
Apple's role as a manufacturer and seller of...
...well, anything...
...is to produce products that people are willing to purchase, and to
make a profit while doing so.
Or do you not understand how a market economy works?
There are people who simply get better results using Apple's
equipment for a PC, their software to run it.
Not even an understandable sentence...
You're not trying very hard, then. But that's OK, I know your only
goal here is to compete with me.
You think far too highly of yourself.
As such, the price gouging on hardware sales does trouble me, as a >>>> regulator.
You're NOT a "regulator".
I could make Apple repay its customers for overcharging them over a
long period of time. But I know better than to overuse authority.
Your megalomania is showing again.
I don't know that it crosses the line into requiring government
oversight and yet it certainly does ask that question.
Only in your (self-admitted) deranged mind.
They probably would end up getting away with it because it's like some
proprietary luxuries, unfortunately, you pay to play and these right-
brained Mac users are gonna have to play by Apple's rules, even as it
makes them look like sheep. I can't just wave my hand and set their
prices, though they push their luck about it frankly.
And here you go again with your circular argument.
If they're continuing to make the base unit have 256 GB storage, but
the next step up is $200 extra, at what point is that not just
transparent gouging?
Because offering people products they freely purchase isn't gouging
of any kind.
It is gouging because if they want a non-joke of a computer they have
to pay so much extra that they're doing more than their fair share to
support the product line. It's ridiculous.
Circular.
Why is 256 still an option?
Because it still works fine for many users.
And it's reasonable to cost $200 to double it?
If people are willing to pay it? Yes, absolutely.
How friggin' cheap is the company that isn't cheap to buy from?!
How is that relevant?
If all their revenue for the Mac line is hardware sales, it's weird
how they don't focus more on having competitive hardware, but that's
Apple,
Their hardware sells well.
Mac sales figures continue to trend upward, so you proceed from a false premise.
and you end up having a point because I have more judgment than to
meddle in their pricing scheme, obvious though it is to be gouging in
real truth, self-evident observation, but the Apple fanboys will come
up with whatever stoned theory why it makes sense to pay $200 for half
of a 512 GB SSD.
More belittling.
Got it.
- but fortunately Samsung comes to the rescue, as they have for
some time.
In what way? Are their smartphones notably less expensive than the
equivalent iPhones?
Not less expensive but as good without being iPhones.
So it's about your hatred, not articulable, objective facts.
Got it.
Basically yeah, I hate Apple with a severe passion, almost to the
point of obsession.
Oh, well past that point.
It has led me to even exaggerate including personal attacks on Mac
users, but I try to also actually address the real matters at work,
and Apple is guilty of a lot.
Apple is "guilty" of making products that people want to purchase and
stick with in the face of less expensive alternatives...
...and you have to pretend that must mean they are "stoned" or in some
other way, less than your "brilliant" self...
...rather than admit that they are rational, reasonable people making rational, reasonable choices.
No serious person has owned an iPhone since the early 2010s.
And you finish with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy!
It's obviously hyperbole.
Is it now?
So then you admit many "serious person[s]" own iPhones and choose to
continue to use iPhones when it comes time to buy a new smartphone...
...right?
As I mentioned, I bought one for another person. That I would do, she
wanted that particular model. I had some extra money to spend at the
time, and it seemed cool. But if it were for me, it would not be an
iPhone.
Which literally has NOTHING to do with my text which preceded it.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in news:697c144e$1$27 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
I did that a while back. Anal had a way about him that irritated my
backside.
Wise move. Most people filter the Alan troll because he is a waste of oxygen.
He's an Apple worshiper who kneels at the throne of Jobs.
There is no convincing a cult member like that of alternatives exist.
The guy is a 100% asshole who should be filtered.
Most people have done so.
Don't feed the Alan loser.
trust me.
"Jose'\"Frangcisco de Paula Juan Soto" <null@nowhre.com> news:XnsB3E3DF97436E3nullnowhrecom6664@62.164.182.27 Fri, 30 Jan 2026 02:58:47 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in news:697c144e$1$27
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
I did that a while back. Anal had a way about him that irritated my
backside.
Wise move. Most people filter the Alan troll because he is a waste of
oxygen.
He's an Apple worshiper who kneels at the throne of Jobs.
There is no convincing a cult member like that of alternatives exist.
The guy is a 100% asshole who should be filtered.
Most people have done so.
Don't feed the Alan loser.
trust me.
After the small amount of interaction I've been having with the
individual, I'm starting to understand why some of you refer to him as
Anal and suggest he be filtered. Evidently, he's quite a bit like Snit in
so far as trolling.
I can't continue to justify wasting my time responding
to him when he's intentionally going out of his way to ignore the evidence I've shared multiple times while accusing me of telling stories and being dishonest.
I haven't written any stories and haven't been dishonest in any possible
way.
I wrote some specific things concerning some Apple computers
effectively turning into paperweights when and if the internal soldered
SSD that you cannot easily replace fails.
I supported what I wrote with
various links to youtube vidoes that were created by a respected
individual in the pcb repair scene. He specializes in Apple repairs - He knows what he's talking about. I've also shared google search query and
the results of them. And, a discussions.apple link that also supports what
I wrote.
The videos provide the most detail, but you do require the attention span
of more than a gold fish to make use of them.
On 2026-01-28 16:16, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-29, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/26 6:19 PM, Alan wrote:
Apple so blatantly works for
bourgeois first worlders, with what they offer, the iPhone and >>>>>>>>> iPad are actually pretty decent though, not that I would buy them, >>>>>>>>> but even though Samsung does have a bourgeois department they also >>>>>>>>> have a dedication to offering the best alternative to the iPhone. >>>>>>>>> It's simply a better business to patronize, for such an essential >>>>>>>>> possession.
I always love the way you have to immediately pivot away from the >>>>>>>> arguments they just made.
And your penchant for using emotionally charged words (bourgeois). >>>>>>>>
The simple fact is that Apple's customer loyalty is fantastic. >>>>>>>>
You don't get that unless you produce products that those customers >>>>>>>> VALUE.
What makes Samsung a "better business patronize" for a smartphone? >>>>>>>>
Would it be there very recent "promise" to provide support for longer? >>>>>>>>
If they really were a "better business patronize"...
...wouldn't that have already been true?
My Galaxy S21 still performs as well as it did when I got it. It >>>>>>> surprises me how many people upgrade frequently.
OK... ...so? When did you actually get it?
In 2021 ...
My iPhone 16 "still performs as well as it did when I got it".Not saying that. In fact, I bought an iPhone 12 model as a gift,
Prove that your S21 is any better at this than a contemporaneous iPhone. >>>>>
which is about as old as what I have, seemed fine to me.
So then when I asked 'What makes Samsung a "better business [to]
patronize" for a smartphone...
...you answered with irrelevant bullshit.
Got it.
It's relevant because what I got didn't come from Apple.
ROTFLMAO!!
Can't argue with that response.
You don't even see the irony...
...do you?
I purchased my Spotminders back in June 2025. They had a special buy 2 get 2 free
so I ended up spending $88 for Qty 4 tax, shipping, tip included.
I have one in my purse, hidden. One in my wallet and it looks exactly like a credit
card and is same size, and 1 hidden in each of my 2 cars.
And no argument that such a credit card sized product has it's place.
But you're paying extra for a worse product when you use it in your
cars, or your purse...
...where the credit card form factor offers no benefit.
Name brand CR2032 batteries @ $1.36 each.
Sometime in late October, early November, the app told me they needed to be charged
so I charged them and am good for another 5- 6 months. No battery replacement needed.
<https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-CR2032-Volt-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0829NZVN8/>
They (Spotminders) advertise the unreplaceable batteries in their
"Tracking Card" as a feature...
...when the truth is there really is no other way to do it in that form factor.
What does the actual warranty agreement state about replacement for the battery's diminishing capacity...
...or have they developed magic batteries that never degrade...
...as well as never bulge?
:-)
On 2026-01-29 17:33, pothead wrote:
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...Valiant effort but once again you lose.
...how is this an advantage?
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email >> notifying you that it's time to charge.
I did a little research...
...and it turns out your claim that Spotminders emails you when it's
time to charge is just so much bullshit.
What "they" DO do...
(and this is the part where you're just to sloppy to get it right--it's
the Tracking Cards themselves, not Spotminders)
...is, when their batteries are running low, they send a notification through the Apple "Find My" network...
...which is precisely what AirTags do.
So, check and mate.
:-)
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 01:05:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Some additional information.
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out when >>>>>> their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found it easy >>>>>> and probably more effective just to track battery replacement dates. >>>>>> For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose batteries have only
ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've already averaged over >>>>>> 18 months and are due, so I'll just change them out before the
spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the financial breakeven is out >>>>>> in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is
in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might
die during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an
Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you
were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not >>>>> you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use
Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers playing >>>>> the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were
using and an AirTag.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better >>>>> other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
I'm glad you brought these up. I have to admit that I would rather have
the Spotminders if only because they fit in the wallet. That's the issue I had with the AirTag.
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you
were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
'Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use "Spotminders tags"'
Not "Spotminders Tracking Cards".
"TAGS"
Spotminders MAKES a "tag".
So wonder of wonders, when you called it a "tag", I assumed you meant
what you wrote.
Nice try, though.
"Jose'\"Frangcisco de Paula Juan Soto" <null@nowhre.com> news:XnsB3E3DF97436E3nullnowhrecom6664@62.164.182.27 Fri, 30 Jan 2026 02:58:47 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in news:697c144e$1$27
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
I did that a while back. Anal had a way about him that irritated my
backside.
Wise move. Most people filter the Alan troll because he is a waste of
oxygen.
He's an Apple worshiper who kneels at the throne of Jobs.
There is no convincing a cult member like that of alternatives exist.
The guy is a 100% asshole who should be filtered.
Most people have done so.
Don't feed the Alan loser.
trust me.
After the small amount of interaction I've been having with the
individual, I'm starting to understand why some of you refer to him as
Anal and suggest he be filtered. Evidently, he's quite a bit like Snit in
so far as trolling. I can't continue to justify wasting my time responding
to him when he's intentionally going out of his way to ignore the evidence I've shared multiple times while accusing me of telling stories and being dishonest.
I haven't written any stories and haven't been dishonest in any possible
way. I wrote some specific things concerning some Apple computers
effectively turning into paperweights when and if the internal soldered
SSD that you cannot easily replace fails. I supported what I wrote with various links to youtube vidoes that were created by a respected
individual in the pcb repair scene. He specializes in Apple repairs - He knows what he's talking about. I've also shared google search query and
the results of them. And, a discussions.apple link that also supports what
I wrote.
On 2026-01-29 17:51, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a >>>>>>>> lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an >>>>>>>> alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is >>>>>>>> better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.LOL!
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you >>>>> were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
Which is why you had to snip your OWN WORDS:
'Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use "Spotminders tags" because they work great, at least for me.'
Do you agree those were your words?
Do you have at least that much integrity?
Do you agree that Spotminders DOES sell tags as well as their "Tracking Cards"?
Do you have at least that much integrity?
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> news:10lgq5f$1mave$2@pothead.dont-email.me Thu, 29 Jan 2026 23:23:27 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
[snip]
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not
you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use
Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT.
Anal went bonkers playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all
based upon my post.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a lunatic
who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an alternative to
an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better other than
choice. That's a snit technique.
Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
He does seem a bit snit like. Not just with technique. I had been wondering what might be up with this person. You're the second person I know of that refers to him as Anal. I think I understand why after spending a little time interacting with him. I'm inclined to agree with the extreme Apple fanboy label.
On 1/29/26 18:23, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-29, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
...
FWIW, what I find curious is the "both use the Apple Find My Network":
does this mean that Spotminder is freeloading their product off of
someone else's services/infrastructure?
Nope.
Spotminders is MFI certified my Apple.
Next.
<https://www.spotminders.com/products/spotminders-tracking-cards>
Okay, so that's how they've done it.
...
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is in pengo pengo?
Pack a spare battery just in case you forgot to check pre-trip. BTDT.
But odds of it going dead while on a trip is pretty low, as Apple has an automatic "low battery" push notice, and IME the Airtag's battery life
is easily a few weeks longer, enough to get home from a typical one week long trip. All in all, it is quite low maintenance.
As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the obvious.
Nah, the obvious is that the Spotminders' much shorter battery life pragmatically requires that they be regularly removed from where they're deployed to be recharged, and since its battery life claim is the usual marking caveat of "up to", the effective timeline requires ~4x/year.
YMMV on one's personal cost of convenience tolerance is, but since the Airtag's annual operation cost is <$1/yr, its probably well within most American's budget.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card...
Sure, but that's only a meaningful differentiator if one needs a credit
card form factor, such as for a gentleman's wallet. The rest of the use cases don't matter.
Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an Apple Airtag.
And what does "hide in plain sight" really mean here? I can't see
hanging a credit card off of the car keys in my pocket as being less
bulky -- or unsightly -- as a "fat coin" form factor.
Many more advantages ...
Such as?
however what I find interesting is how Anal, not you hh, jumped all
over my initial post where all I said was i use Spotminders rather than Airtag.
I glanced through them - just what was so wrong?
Going back, I see the following points:
* you were corrected on two factual errors (battery is replaceable, waterproof ratings are the same);
* the claim of "Low-grade plastic" is (% remains) unsubstantiated;
* the claim of "no risk of battery swelling" needs an explanation why;
* he agreed that a credit card sized product has it's place (but often
isn't a differentiator);
* his point that a "lifetime guarantee" is a valid risk for relatively
new companies;
* he concluded that you're paying extra for a worse product when form
factor isn't needed.
The biggest thing that I saw wrong from the above was that Alan used an overly high price for the Airtag for ROI comparisons, so instead of the Spotminder's breakeven point being at ~4.5 years, its out at ~19 years.
FWIW, in addition to luggage we've frequently deployed Airtags in purses
& similar small bags ... but the places that I've never even thought
about deploying them are inside my wallet (which is where a CC form
factor would apply) or within a moneybelt/passport carrier.
-hh
On 2026-01-30, Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> news:10lgq5f$1mave$2@pothead.dont-email.me >> Thu, 29 Jan 2026 23:23:27 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
[snip]
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not
you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use
Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT.
Anal went bonkers playing the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all
based upon my post.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a lunatic
who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an alternative to >>> an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better other than
choice. That's a snit technique.
Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
He does seem a bit snit like. Not just with technique. I had been wondering >> what might be up with this person. You're the second person I know of that >> refers to him as Anal. I think I understand why after spending a little time >> interacting with him. I'm inclined to agree with the extreme Apple fanboy
label.
And notice snit smelled blood and is all over these threads trolling away!
So predictable!
One difference between Alan, hh and snit is that Alan and hh are intelligent while snit is a retard.
Apologies to the mentally challenged but you own the snit troll like it or not.
On 2026-01-31, Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
"Jose'\"Frangcisco de Paula Juan Soto" <null@nowhre.com>
news:XnsB3E3DF97436E3nullnowhrecom6664@62.164.182.27 Fri, 30 Jan 2026
02:58:47 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in news:697c144e$1$27
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
minor details while ignoring the obvious.
It's best to send Alan to the bozo bin.
YMMV.
I did that a while back. Anal had a way about him that irritated my
backside.
Wise move. Most people filter the Alan troll because he is a waste of
oxygen.
He's an Apple worshiper who kneels at the throne of Jobs.
There is no convincing a cult member like that of alternatives exist.
The guy is a 100% asshole who should be filtered.
Most people have done so.
Don't feed the Alan loser.
trust me.
After the small amount of interaction I've been having with the
individual, I'm starting to understand why some of you refer to him as
Anal and suggest he be filtered. Evidently, he's quite a bit like Snit in
so far as trolling. I can't continue to justify wasting my time responding >> to him when he's intentionally going out of his way to ignore the evidence >> I've shared multiple times while accusing me of telling stories and being
dishonest.
I haven't written any stories and haven't been dishonest in any possible
way. I wrote some specific things concerning some Apple computers
effectively turning into paperweights when and if the internal soldered
SSD that you cannot easily replace fails. I supported what I wrote with
various links to youtube vidoes that were created by a respected
individual in the pcb repair scene. He specializes in Apple repairs - He
knows what he's talking about. I've also shared google search query and
the results of them. And, a discussions.apple link that also supports what >> I wrote.
Alan is a snit clone although unlike snit, Alan does know Apple products very well.
He will cherry pick, use semantics, ignore links and sidestep and so forth. And he projects, big time, just like snit.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, hh is similar to both of them.
The hh troll is a hyper focused type troll who will literally analyze the shape of the cornflakes in his morning cereal bowl and come up with some convoluted reason why they have certain shapes.
And all the while ignoring the obvious and leaving his common sense at the door
to the laboratory.
It's akin to being the weatherman on TV giving all kinds of scientific evidence
as to why it's snowing outside without ever looking out the window because if he
did he would see it was sunny outside with no snowstorm in sight.
He's basically a solution in search of a problem.
Also his replies turn into "War and Piece" length dissertations.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:33, pothead wrote:
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...Valiant effort but once again you lose.
...how is this an advantage?
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email
notifying you that it's time to charge.
I did a little research...
...and it turns out your claim that Spotminders emails you when it's
time to charge is just so much bullshit.
What "they" DO do...
(and this is the part where you're just to sloppy to get it right--it's
the Tracking Cards themselves, not Spotminders)
...is, when their batteries are running low, they send a notification
through the Apple "Find My" network...
...which is precisely what AirTags do.
So, check and mate.
:-)
Incorrect.
They do both.
The email is based upon the date of purchase and assumes you put the device into
service fully charged around that date.
So 2 ways Spotminders reminds you vs 1 way Airtag reminds you.
On 2026-01-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 01:05:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Some additional information.
On 2026-01-29 15:23, pothead wrote:
I have heard of some travelers who will pull the batteries out when >>>>>>> their suitcase is in storage to extend life...but I've found it easy >>>>>>> and probably more effective just to track battery replacement dates. >>>>>>> For example, I have two tags from 2022 whose batteries have only >>>>>>> ever been replaced once (in 2024), so they've already averaged over >>>>>>> 18 months and are due, so I'll just change them out before the
spring trip. At ~$1/year and 4/$99, the financial breakeven is out >>>>>>> in the Year 2042.
-hh
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is >>>>>> in pengo pengo? As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the
obvious.
Because it's SO difficult to realize your about to take a trip and
replace the battery beforehand if you have any thought that it might >>>>> die during the tript.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card vs an Airtag which
looks, well, like an Airtag. Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an >>>>>> Apple Airtag.
You're really stretching here...
...and ignoring that you failed to properly identify the product you >>>>> were claiming to use when it first came up.
Many more advantages however what I find interesting is how Anal, not >>>>>> you hh, jumped all over my initial post where all I said was i use >>>>>> Spotminders rather than Airtag. THAT"S IT. Anal went bonkers playing >>>>>> the Apple fanboy and for no reason at all based upon my post.
I didn't "go bonkers" at all.
I pointed out the deficiencies between the product you SAID you were >>>>> using and an AirTag.
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an
alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is better >>>>>> other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus.
The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
Here are some reasons why I went with Spotminders instead of Apple.
There are more.
Sorry Anal if Apple lost a sale.
You can make it up on the next sucker, err customer.
https://www.spotminders.com/pages/10-reasons-ditching-airtags-list1
I'm glad you brought these up. I have to admit that I would rather have
the Spotminders if only because they fit in the wallet. That's the issue I >> had with the AirTag.
Passport is another popular place. If you have a passport holder you can slip it in
and it will not immediately get noticed giving you some time to recover.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and aLOL!
lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an >>>>>>> alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is
better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you >>>> were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released. >> How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
'Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use "Spotminders tags"'
Not "Spotminders Tracking Cards".
"TAGS"
Spotminders MAKES a "tag".
So wonder of wonders, when you called it a "tag", I assumed you meant
what you wrote.
Nice try, though.
Yawwn....
Playing the semantic game again.
You know exactly what I meant.
Why can't you simply accept that Apple devices aren't always superior to the buyer?
Do you work for Apple?
On 2026-01-30, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 1/29/26 18:23, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-29, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
...
FWIW, what I find curious is the "both use the Apple Find My Network": >>>>
does this mean that Spotminder is freeloading their product off of
someone else's services/infrastructure?
Nope.
Spotminders is MFI certified my Apple.
Next.
<https://www.spotminders.com/products/spotminders-tracking-cards>
Okay, so that's how they've done it.
Yes.
And Apple approves so.......
...
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is in pengo pengo?
Pack a spare battery just in case you forgot to check pre-trip. BTDT.
An option.
But then there is battery swelling to deal with.
Probably rare but still it happens.
People don't maintain their electronics anymore.
But odds of it going dead while on a trip is pretty low, as Apple has an
automatic "low battery" push notice, and IME the Airtag's battery life
is easily a few weeks longer, enough to get home from a typical one week
long trip. All in all, it is quite low maintenance.
So does Spotminders, plus they send an email based upon when your purchased letting you it's time to charge.
As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the obvious.
Nah, the obvious is that the Spotminders' much shorter battery life
pragmatically requires that they be regularly removed from where they're
deployed to be recharged, and since its battery life claim is the usual
marking caveat of "up to", the effective timeline requires ~4x/year.
Yawn.
Warranty is lifetime.
Stick on a wireless charger and it's good for another 6 months or so.
Easy peasy.
And no danger of leaking, at least not to the level of a CR2032 which
can swell and leak.
YMMV on one's personal cost of convenience tolerance is, but since the
Airtag's annual operation cost is <$1/yr, its probably well within most
American's budget.
Spotminders is cheaper.
Aslo you need to purchase another device if you want to put an Airtag on a keyring
so that will cost you more for the much touted key ring advantage of the Airtag.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card...
Sure, but that's only a meaningful differentiator if one needs a credit
card form factor, such as for a gentleman's wallet. The rest of the use
cases don't matter.
Purse.
Ask your wife about hidden pockets in purses.
Passport is another popular spot.
Luggage, can easily be hidden in the lining, unlike an Airtag.
Car, easily hidden, maybe in a headliner, stuck on the center console lid etc.
Unlike an Airtag.
Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an Apple Airtag.
And what does "hide in plain sight" really mean here? I can't see
hanging a credit card off of the car keys in my pocket as being less
bulky -- or unsightly -- as a "fat coin" form factor.
Actually if you park in a commercial or even an HOA garage card keys are popular
and people hang them on their key ring. However Spotminders does make a Smarttag
which is designed for a key ring and unlike Apple it has a hole in it so you don't have to buy an extra piece.
So Spotminders makes different devices.
Apple makes one size fits all.
Many more advantages ...
Such as?
Warranty.
Sound is louder than Apple.
Construction gets higher marks as being superior.
If you buy on sale, price is less.
Here is a special on the SmartTag, 5 for $87:00
I got the credit card version 4 for $88.00
Apple can't beat that other than maybe them liquidating
their AirTag V1 since they just introduced Airtag v2.
<https://www.spotminders.com/products/spotminders-smart-tag>
however what I find interesting is how Anal, not you hh, jumped all
over my initial post where all I said was i use Spotminders rather than Airtag.
I glanced through them - just what was so wrong?
Just because I mentioned a competitor's product he went bonkers.
And I'm not an Apple hater in any way.
As stated I have an Apple Watch and iPhone and have had many versions
over the years.
They are excellent devices.
But Alan can't handle that.
Apple is his entire life and world.
Going back, I see the following points:
* you were corrected on two factual errors (battery is replaceable,
waterproof ratings are the same);
Yes.
From a website that was incorrect.
Neither was really a consideration for me at the time though.
I don't typically take my purse/wallet into the water when I am at the beach.
* the claim of "Low-grade plastic" is (% remains) unsubstantiated;
Serial number is engraved on Spotminders rather than a sticker.
That says quality to me, but yea marketing stuff.
* the claim of "no risk of battery swelling" needs an explanation why;
There is no separate battery like a CR 2032.
It's an internal lithium polymer battery (I think?).
Another advantage is the card is eco friendly, which I'm sure you will like. No CR 2032 batteries to dispose of.
It's kind of funny seeing an Apple fanboy like Alan promoting replaceable parts like batteries when most Apple devices are the exact opposite.
Like I've said, he will argue about anything to make Apple look good.
Consistency doesn't matter.
* he agreed that a credit card sized product has it's place (but often
isn't a differentiator);
* his point that a "lifetime guarantee" is a valid risk for relatively
new companies;
Pure speculation.
Lifetime warranty vs 1 year warranty.
Easy peasy.
* he concluded that you're paying extra for a worse product when form
factor isn't needed.
He is wrong.
I've explained this many times already.
The biggest thing that I saw wrong from the above was that Alan used an
overly high price for the Airtag for ROI comparisons, so instead of the
Spotminder's breakeven point being at ~4.5 years, its out at ~19 years.
There you go into the minutia rabbit hole again.
You misstated the product you were talking about...
FWIW, in addition to luggage we've frequently deployed Airtags in purses
& similar small bags ... but the places that I've never even thought
about deploying them are inside my wallet (which is where a CC form
factor would apply) or within a moneybelt/passport carrier.
Everyone is different.
I stated MY needs and initially I never stated an Apple vs Spotminders comparison.
Alan was the one who went bonkers on that one.
On 2026-01-31 13:52, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:33, pothead wrote:
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...Valiant effort but once again you lose.
...how is this an advantage?
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email
notifying you that it's time to charge.
I did a little research...
...and it turns out your claim that Spotminders emails you when it's
time to charge is just so much bullshit.
What "they" DO do...
(and this is the part where you're just to sloppy to get it right--it's
the Tracking Cards themselves, not Spotminders)
...is, when their batteries are running low, they send a notification
through the Apple "Find My" network...
...which is precisely what AirTags do.
So, check and mate.
:-)
Incorrect.
They do both.
The email is based upon the date of purchase and assumes you put the device into
service fully charged around that date.
So 2 ways Spotminders reminds you vs 1 way Airtag reminds you.
So you get ONE email...
Got it.
But the larger point you miss is that you were trying to turn this into
an advantage for Spotminders.
And it isn't.
On 2026-02-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-31 13:52, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:33, pothead wrote:
So aside from needing to remember to charge it twice as often...Valiant effort but once again you lose.
...how is this an advantage?
Just one example, when you register your Spotminders device you get an email
notifying you that it's time to charge.
I did a little research...
...and it turns out your claim that Spotminders emails you when it's
time to charge is just so much bullshit.
What "they" DO do...
(and this is the part where you're just to sloppy to get it right--it's >>>> the Tracking Cards themselves, not Spotminders)
...is, when their batteries are running low, they send a notification
through the Apple "Find My" network...
...which is precisely what AirTags do.
So, check and mate.
:-)
Incorrect.
They do both.
The email is based upon the date of purchase and assumes you put the device into
service fully charged around that date.
So 2 ways Spotminders reminds you vs 1 way Airtag reminds you.
So you get ONE email...
Got it.
But the larger point you miss is that you were trying to turn this into
an advantage for Spotminders.
And it isn't.
Nope.
It's just something that Spotminders does that Apple does not.
I suggest you purchase what works for you, not necessarily for me.
Again, my initial post to this thread was :
"Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use "Spotminders tags"
because they work great, at least for me.
Make sure you order direct from them because there are
many knockoffs out there."
<Message-ID: <10le46b$sb14$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
After which you went bonkers just like you did at the start of the thread where Joel mentioned he preferred Samsung over Apple.
You have some kind of a mental disorder where you spend inordinate amounts of time trying to justify Apple as the better choice compared to the competition and
when you are given specifics about why a poster might prefer the competition you
did and dig with the but "whatabout" routine and nitpick over every minor aspect
in order for you to justify Apple.
On 2026-01-30, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 1/29/26 18:23, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-29, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
Yea, and where are you going to find a battery when your luggage is in pengo pengo?...
Pack a spare battery just in case you forgot to check pre-trip. BTDT.
An option.
But then there is battery swelling to deal with.
Probably rare but still it happens.
People don't maintain their electronics anymore.
But odds of it going dead while on a trip is pretty low, as Apple has an
automatic "low battery" push notice, and IME the Airtag's battery life
is easily a few weeks longer, enough to get home from a typical one week
long trip. All in all, it is quite low maintenance.
So does Spotminders, plus they send an email based upon when your purchased letting you it's time to charge.
As usual you play with minutia while avoiding the obvious.
Nah, the obvious is that the Spotminders' much shorter battery life
pragmatically requires that they be regularly removed from where they're
deployed to be recharged, and since its battery life claim is the usual
marking caveat of "up to", the effective timeline requires ~4x/year.
Yawn.
Warranty is lifetime.
Stick on a wireless charger and it's good for another 6 months or so.
Easy peasy.
And no danger of leaking, at least not to the level of a CR2032 which
can swell and leak.
YMMV on one's personal cost of convenience tolerance is, but since the
Airtag's annual operation cost is <$1/yr, its probably well within most
American's budget.
Spotminders is cheaper.
Aslo you need to purchase another device if you want to put an Airtag on a keyring
so that will cost you more for the much touted key ring advantage of the Airtag.
Obvious things like:
Super slim. looks like an ordinary credit card...
Sure, but that's only a meaningful differentiator if one needs a credit
card form factor, such as for a gentleman's wallet. The rest of the use
cases don't matter.
Purse.
Ask your wife about hidden pockets in purses.
Passport is another popular spot.
Luggage, can easily be hidden in the lining, unlike an Airtag.
Car, easily hidden, maybe in a headliner, stuck on the center console lid etc.
Unlike an Airtag.
Easy to hide in plain sight unlike an Apple Airtag.
And what does "hide in plain sight" really mean here? I can't see
hanging a credit card off of the car keys in my pocket as being less
bulky -- or unsightly -- as a "fat coin" form factor.
Actually if you park in a commercial or even an HOA garage card keys are popular
and people hang them on their key ring. However Spotminders does make a Smarttag
which is designed for a key ring and unlike Apple it has a hole in it so you don't have to buy an extra piece.
So Spotminders makes different devices.
Apple makes one size fits all.
Many more advantages ...
Such as?
Warranty.
Sound is louder than Apple.
Construction gets higher marks as being superior.
If you buy on sale, price is less.
Here is a special on the SmartTag, 5 for $87:00
I got the credit card version 4 for $88.00
however what I find interesting is how Anal, not you hh, jumped all
over my initial post where all I said was i use Spotminders rather than Airtag.
I glanced through them - just what was so wrong?
Just because I mentioned a competitor's product he went bonkers.
Going back, I see the following points:
* you were corrected on two factual errors (battery is replaceable,
waterproof ratings are the same);
Yes.
From a website that was incorrect.
Neither was really a consideration for me at the time though.
I don't typically take my purse/wallet into the water when I am at the beach.
* the claim of "Low-grade plastic" is (% remains) unsubstantiated;
Serial number is engraved on Spotminders rather than a sticker.
That says quality to me, but yea marketing stuff.
* the claim of "no risk of battery swelling" needs an explanation why;
There is no separate battery like a CR 2032.
It's an internal lithium polymer battery (I think?).
Another advantage is the card is eco friendly, which I'm sure you will like. No CR 2032 batteries to dispose of.
* he agreed that a credit card sized product has it's place (but often
isn't a differentiator);
* his point that a "lifetime guarantee" is a valid risk for relatively
new companies;
Pure speculation.
Lifetime warranty vs 1 year warranty.
Easy peasy.
* he concluded that you're paying extra for a worse product when form
factor isn't needed.
He is wrong.
I've explained this many times already.
The biggest thing that I saw wrong from the above was that Alan used an
overly high price for the Airtag for ROI comparisons, so instead of the
Spotminder's breakeven point being at ~4.5 years, its out at ~19 years.
There you go into the minutia rabbit hole again.
FWIW, in addition to luggage we've frequently deployed Airtags in purses
& similar small bags ... but the places that I've never even thought
about deploying them are inside my wallet (which is where a CC form
factor would apply) or within a moneybelt/passport carrier.
Everyone is different.
I stated MY needs and initially I never stated an Apple vs Spotminders comparison.
Alan was the one who went bonkers on that one.
On 1/29/26 8:41 PM, Alan wrote:
The problem with the iPhone is that it's an Apple
product.
So despite your claims about Apple users, this is really
about your irrational reaction to a particular company.
Got it.
My claims about Apple users are bullshit, yeah. I mean,
there are extreme examples that could caricature Mac users,
but that doesn't hold up to the statistics of people using
Macs. It's fair to say that Apple makes me pretty deranged
and yet they behave pretty deranged, so, ya know.
No. I do NOT know.
I've worked with people who use Macs and iPhones (and iPads)
for decades, and they're no more "deranged" than any other
group.
I was talking about Apple corporate.
And in what way are THEY "deranged".
Watch out for circular argument here.
Objectively, Apple isn't interested in competition, that's purely a
facade. They need Microsoft to be what it is, so they can be the
quirky alternative for quirky alternative people. As such, their
hardware and software both languish under mediocre development.
We should want to punish Apple any way possible.
Why? What have they done to deserve (and I can absolutely
believe you'd use this word): "punishment"?
Well, let's think about it from a perspective we'd at least
agree is worth considering - Apple through their Mac product
line does serve a real need in computing.
That's an unsupported assertion.
Apple's Mac product line serves the real needs of its users so
well, they almost never EVER want to use anything else ever
again.
Yeah so ask yourself why, you yourself have talked up
repeatedly buying Macs, you probably have the slightest
insight.
Again: not really English.
Again: you are admitting not really being able to read English.
"Real need in computing" here means that there is more than a
niche market for macOS and software designed for it.
Circular argument.
macOS and software designed for it encompass the vast majority of
things that people want to do with personal computers.
OK but why are they choosing the Mac?
Is it just what was placed
in front of them? Usually, it's a very intentional choice, in fact,
and I'm recognizing that but since I'm expecting Apple to up its
game in response,
you leap into attacking me and avoiding addressing
Apple's deranged behavior.
You're loyal, to be sure, but more to
Apple's derangement itself, as if you work for them.
I myself almost liked it, I admit, the Unix components made it
something of value, but the Apple GUI is just too tragic.
In some way you'll never actually articulate...
It's just inferior software, I know it when I see it.
But for those who really benefit from using Macs, there isn't
an alternative, and it seems that Apple could do more to offer
them something of a competitive deal on a system.
Apple's role as a manufacturer and seller of...
...well, anything...
...is to produce products that people are willing to purchase, and
to make a profit while doing so.
Or do you not understand how a market economy works?
If you want to see Apple in the context of the market economy,
well, that opens up a whole can of worms, they're bourgeois,
mediocre, very typical of how people with too much money will find
ways to spend it and yet get next to nothing for their efforts,
because they're too much of gigantic dorks to know the right shit to
buy.
You're welcome, fanboy.
There are people who simply get better results using
Apple's equipment for a PC, their software to run it.
Not even an understandable sentence...
You're not trying very hard, then. But that's OK, I know your
only goal here is to compete with me.
You think far too highly of yourself.
It's funny you'd say that though given how you seem to perceive
yourself, but OK.
As such, the price gouging on hardware sales does trouble
me, as a regulator.
You're NOT a "regulator".
I could make Apple repay its customers for overcharging them
over a long period of time. But I know better than to overuse
authority.
Your megalomania is showing again.
Your ignorance might be, if you really think I'm a megalomaniac.
I don't know that it crosses the line into requiring
government oversight and yet it certainly does ask that
question.
Only in your (self-admitted) deranged mind.
They probably would end up getting away with it because it's
like some proprietary luxuries, unfortunately, you pay to play
and these right- brained Mac users are gonna have to play by
Apple's rules, even as it makes them look like sheep. I can't
just wave my hand and set their prices, though they push their
luck about it frankly.
And here you go again with your circular argument.
The point is, if I were crazy, I could do anything I wanted to
Apple, but I'm not crazy,
I'm willing to work with them, but the
bully pulpit still exists, particularly here on Usenet, so I'm not
going to pretend to admire Apple.
If they're continuing to make the base unit have 256 GB
storage, but the next step up is $200 extra, at what point
is that not just transparent gouging?
Because offering people products they freely purchase isn't
gouging of any kind.
It is gouging because if they want a non-joke of a computer they
have to pay so much extra that they're doing more than their
fair share to support the product line. It's ridiculous.
Circular.
It'll never be circular when half of a 512 GB SSD is $200. You have
not addressed that basic fact.
Why is 256 still an option?
Because it still works fine for many users.
And it's reasonable to cost $200 to double it?
If people are willing to pay it? Yes, absolutely.
Spoken like an Apple employee.
How friggin' cheap is the company that isn't cheap to buy
from?!
How is that relevant?
If all their revenue for the Mac line is hardware sales, it's
weird how they don't focus more on having competitive hardware,
but that's Apple,
Their hardware sells well.
Mac sales figures continue to trend upward, so you proceed from a
false premise.
Shitty OEM PCs sell well, too.
and you end up having a point because I have more judgment than
to meddle in their pricing scheme, obvious though it is to be
gouging in real truth, self-evident observation, but the Apple
fanboys will come up with whatever stoned theory why it makes
sense to pay $200 for half of a 512 GB SSD.
More belittling.
Got it.
Unlike you constantly do to me? What a joke.
- but fortunately Samsung comes to the rescue, as they
have for some time.
In what way? Are their smartphones notably less expensive
than the equivalent iPhones?
Not less expensive but as good without being iPhones.
So it's about your hatred, not articulable, objective facts.
Got it.
Basically yeah, I hate Apple with a severe passion, almost to
the point of obsession.
Oh, well past that point.
I do other things with my time than debate computers on Usenet.
It has led me to even exaggerate including personal attacks on
Mac users, but I try to also actually address the real matters
at work, and Apple is guilty of a lot.
Apple is "guilty" of making products that people want to purchase
and stick with in the face of less expensive alternatives...
...and you have to pretend that must mean they are "stoned" or in
some other way, less than your "brilliant" self...
...rather than admit that they are rational, reasonable people
making rational, reasonable choices.
$200 for half of a 512 GB SSD.
No serious person has owned an iPhone since the early
2010s.
And you finish with a "no true Scotsman" fallacy!
It's obviously hyperbole.
Is it now?
So then you admit many "serious person[s]" own iPhones and
choose to continue to use iPhones when it comes time to buy a
new smartphone...
...right?
As I mentioned, I bought one for another person. That I would
do, she wanted that particular model. I had some extra money to
spend at the time, and it seemed cool. But if it were for me,
it would not be an iPhone.
Which literally has NOTHING to do with my text which preceded it.
You wanted me to admit serious people could choose an iPhone, I gaveYou having bought a phone for ONE person is hardly an admission about
an example of it that I was directly involved with. If that
"literally has NOTHING to do with" what you said, maybe you need a
break from this shit.
And you lost the argument from your first reply to me, above.
Tell me how I put an Apple Airtag in a wallet?
It's also easily hidden in a purse or a car.
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:51, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 17:14, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2026-01-29 16:56, pothead wrote:
On 2026-01-30, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It's obvious he is an extreme Apple fanboy (being paid?) and a >>>>>>>>> lunatic who goes on the offensive as soon as a person mentions an >>>>>>>>> alternative to an Apple anything.Even if no claims of which is >>>>>>>>> better other than choice. That's a snit technique. Totally bogus. >>>>>>>>>> The guy is a certified lunatic.LOL!
ROTFLMAO!!!
So can you hide an air tag in a wallet?
In a purse?
No. But then when this first came up, you misidentified the product you >>>>>> were talking about...
...didn't you?
:-)
Nope.
Nice try.
All my comparisons are vs Apple Airtag 1 as the Airtag 2 was just released.
How utterly astonishing that you "misread" what I was saying.
Let me quote your entry into this topic:
Projection fail, once again.
You really do sound like snit.
Are you snit?
Which is why you had to snip your OWN WORDS:
'Even though I have both an Android and iPhone, I use "Spotminders tags"
because they work great, at least for me.'
Do you agree those were your words?
Of course I agree.
Do you have at least that much integrity?
Do you agree that Spotminders DOES sell tags as well as their "Tracking
Cards"?
I described what I use Spotminders for many times which anyone reading would realize that I use the cards regardless of what I call them.
How do you hide a tag in a wallet for example?
You're grasping at straws here Alan.
Do you have at least that much integrity?
I do.
You don't though.
But since you brought up the topic of tags, Spotminders offers both the cards AND tag devices.
Does Apple?
Yet another win for Spotminders.
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