• Sleepy Joe and the Poor South (Local AI Emacs Mode) (Re: PrologEducation Group clueless about the AI Boom?)

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Wed Nov 12 12:59:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    Breaking News from the French conference of
    philisophy professors in education. They launched
    the Local AI Emacs Mode initiative to bring

    new technology to even most remote corners
    of the earth, such as the Poor South, i.e.
    Spain, Brasil, Argentinia, etc..

    It consists of:

    - **org.joe:** This is a numpy library that
    can solve large band matrices via storing
    them on floppy disk. One speaker of the
    philosophy conference said, this is ideal
    to demonstrate algorithms such as Stable
    Diffusion, it might take a month though
    to generate an image but it servers its
    educatinal goals for Low-Resource teaching.

    - **org.sleepy:** This is a sympy library that
    can also do natural deduction. It uses
    very natural communication means such as
    E-mail. Its especially useful together with
    org.joe, since it will notify the user when
    to change a floppy disk via E-mail.

    - SWI-Prolog integration of Local AI:
    org.joe has a R binding, which has SWI-Prolog
    binding, which has a Janus Python binding, which
    has a JSON web server binding, etc.. etc.. And
    org.sleepy can be controlled via their brand new
    XPCE, the Emacs that runs in a Mac/Windows Window.
    But most Low-Resource teachers and students will
    not be able to use it, since they have only
    an ASCII terminal console on a 32-bit Unix.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Concerning this boring nonsense:

    https://book.simply-logical.space/src/text/2_part_ii/5.3.html#

    Funny idea that anybody would be interested just now in
    the year 2025 in things like teaching breadth first
    search versus depth first search, or even be “mystified”
    by such stuff. Its extremly trivial stuff:

    Insert your favorite tree traversal pictures here.

    Its even not artificial intelligence neither has anything
    to do with mathematical logic, rather belongs to computer
    science and discrete mathematics which you have in
    1st year university

    courses, making it moot to call it “simply logical”. It
    reminds me of the idea of teaching how wax candles work
    to dumb down students, when just light bulbs have been
    invented. If this is the outcome

    of the Prolog Education Group 2.0, then good night.


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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Wed Nov 12 13:12:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    This is information provided by ChatGPT.
    I asked whether there will be similar initiatives
    like the MZ-80k back then in Japan, but for Local AI?

    In Education the Local AI, locally on your device idea,
    has probably not yet arrived. But there are AI initiatives:

    - Countries with Active AI Integration or Guidance in Education:
    Canada, USA, China, UAE, Australia, Some Europe, etc.. https://www.sourcesecurity.com/img/news/920/lithuania-s-ai-in-schools-nexos-ai-initiative-920x533.jpg
    - People’s Republic of China (e.g., Hangzhou),
    AI education from early age
    China’s Hangzhou makes AI classes compulsory in schools
    amid nationwide push. Local governments are beginning to
    take action after Beijing said it wants all primary and
    secondary students to study the advanced tech https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3323082/chinas-hangzhou-makes-ai-classes-compulsory-schools-amid-nationwide-push
    - Estonia Announces A Groundbreaking National Initiative: AI Leap
    Programme to Bring AI Tools to All Schools
    Estonia, one of the world's most advanced digital societies,
    announced today an ambitious nationwide artificial intelligence
    education program called AI Leap 2025 (TI-Hüpe 2025 in Estonian).
    The initiative, planned to be launched on 1 September 2025, will
    provide students and teachers with free access to the world's
    leading AI applications and the necessary skills to use them
    effectively in learning, marking the next chapter in Estonia's
    digital society journey. https://www.hm.ee/en/news/estonia-announces-groundbreaking-national-initiative-ai-leap-programme-bring-ai-tools-all

    But there are chances the Local AI, locally on your device,
    becomes even available for Low-Resource regions:

    - Likely trends by 2026: AI-capable chips everywhere,
    Cheaper edge AI hardware, Improved efficiency,
    Education-specific variants, Local models catching up.
    - In other words, by late 2026, the dream of a
    “new MZ-80K era” — affordable, compact AI learning
    machines for every classroom — could be technically
    and economically feasible.

    In Miniature you have already Local AI on your smartphones.

    Bye

    P.S.: Here is the chat:

    mz-80k education initiative https://chatgpt.com/share/6914648d-e934-8013-9388-3bcf40f753a8

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Breaking News from the French conference of
    philisophy professors in education. They launched
    the Local AI Emacs Mode initiative to bring

    new technology to even most remote corners
    of the earth, such as the Poor South, i.e.
    Spain, Brasil, Argentinia, etc..

    It consists of:

    - **org.joe:** This is a numpy library that
      can solve large band matrices via storing
      them on floppy disk. One speaker of the
      philosophy conference said, this is ideal
      to demonstrate algorithms such as Stable
      Diffusion, it might take a month though
      to generate an image but it servers its
      educatinal goals for Low-Resource teaching.

    - **org.sleepy:** This is a sympy library that
      can also do natural deduction. It uses
      very natural communication means such as
      E-mail. Its especially useful together with
      org.joe, since it will notify the user when
      to change a floppy disk via E-mail.

    - SWI-Prolog integration of Local AI:
      org.joe has a R binding, which has SWI-Prolog
      binding, which has a Janus Python binding, which
      has a JSON web server binding, etc.. etc.. And
      org.sleepy can be controlled via their brand new
      XPCE, the Emacs that runs in a Mac/Windows Window.
      But most Low-Resource teachers and students will
      not be able to use it, since they have only
      an ASCII terminal console on a 32-bit Unix.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Concerning this boring nonsense:

    https://book.simply-logical.space/src/text/2_part_ii/5.3.html#

    Funny idea that anybody would be interested just now in
    the year 2025 in things like teaching breadth first
    search versus depth first search, or even be “mystified”
    by such stuff. Its extremly trivial stuff:

    Insert your favorite tree traversal pictures here.

    Its even not artificial intelligence neither has anything
    to do with mathematical logic, rather belongs to computer
    science and discrete mathematics which you have in
    1st year university

    courses, making it moot to call it “simply logical”. It
    reminds me of the idea of teaching how wax candles work
    to dumb down students, when just light bulbs have been
    invented. If this is the outcome

    of the Prolog Education Group 2.0, then good night.



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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Wed Nov 26 18:07:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    Ha Ha, USA is shitting once again its pants:

    New age of AI‑accelerated innovation and discovery
    that can solve the most challenging problems of this century.
    Executive Orders November 24, 2025
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ92hV1R4TA

    Governement, acadamenia and standard bodies
    are loosing it over Deep Pokets. They will
    be the next savages in a land of humanoid

    robots and techno lords. This is just the
    after math of neo capitalism privatization
    in and out. So most of the Deep Pokets are

    even governement, academia fundeded. But the
    humanoid robots will make the Deep Pokets
    even more deeper.

    Bye

    P.S.: So whats the blind spot in this troubled
    times. Mentifex gave a glimps:

    // aLife() (artificial life) is the Robot AI Mind main loop.
    function aLife() { // ATM 27oct2002; or your ID & date.
    Security(); // For human control and operation of the AI.
    Sensorium(); // Audition; other human-robot input senses.
    Emotion(); // Quasi-physiological influence upon thought.
    Think(); // Syntax and vocabulary of natural languages.
    Volition(); // Contemplative selection of motor options.
    Motorium(); // Robotic activation of motor initiatives.
    if (life == true) { // If the AI has not met with misadventure,
    fyi = "aLife: calling itself; t = "+t+"; rejuvenations ="+rjc;
    Voice(); // Display the Voice:brain "For Your Information".
    TID=window.setTimeout("aLife();",rsvp); // Call aLife again. }
    // End of quasi-loop time-delay of rsvp-value milliseconds. }
    // End of one pass through the aLife Mind that repeats itself. https://mind.sourceforge.net/Mind.html

    Thats what business wants, this A-Life. And
    20-30 years a ago it was a blooming research
    field and you could toy around with genetic

    programming on a commodore C64. Now genetic programming
    is done in simulated 3D worlds, and Elon Optimus will
    soon be employed as hotel personell in the UAV.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Concerning this boring nonsense:

    https://book.simply-logical.space/src/text/2_part_ii/5.3.html#

    Funny idea that anybody would be interested just now in
    the year 2025 in things like teaching breadth first
    search versus depth first search, or even be “mystified”
    by such stuff. Its extremly trivial stuff:

    Insert your favorite tree traversal pictures here.

    Its even not artificial intelligence neither has anything
    to do with mathematical logic, rather belongs to computer
    science and discrete mathematics which you have in
    1st year university

    courses, making it moot to call it “simply logical”. It
    reminds me of the idea of teaching how wax candles work
    to dumb down students, when just light bulbs have been
    invented. If this is the outcome

    of the Prolog Education Group 2.0, then good night.


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