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  • Heads will roll: AI means PANIC.

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Mon Jan 6 19:06:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    At least John Sowa is not panicing when
    he bashes LLM. Here is another video by him,
    where he pulls all registers:

    Without Ontology LLMs are Clueless by JohnSowa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wZbbISdyA

    One could adopt his stance, including spreading
    rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
    LLMs do also represent ontologies.

    Just make a test, take any of John Sowas drawings:

    https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/

    Now ask ChatGPT:

    Q: give me an overview of the beverages
    that humans consume

    A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
    broadly categorized based on their preparation,
    ingredients, and purpose. Here’s an overview:

    1. Water
    [...]
    2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
    a. Hot Beverages
    [...]
    b. Cold Beverages
    [...]
    3. Alcoholic Beverages
    [...]
    4. Functional Beverages
    [...]
    5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
    [...]
    6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
    [...]

    These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
    and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
    and social interaction.

    Woa!

    Bye
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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Mon Jan 6 19:10:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog


    The ontology by John Sowa has an easter egg.
    Champagne is both sparkling and alcoholic. But
    ChatGPT disagrees with John Sowa, since the ontology
    of ChatGPT is slightly differently organized. There
    is no individual sparkling category, there is a
    subcategory among non-alcoholic

    which is sparkling, so it doesn’t want
    Champagn belong to it:

    Q: Is champagne a soft drink?

    A: No, champagne is not a soft drink. It is a type
    of sparkling wine made from specific grape varieties
    and produced using a traditional method (méthode champenoise)
    in the Champagne region of France. Champagne is an
    alcoholic beverage, while soft drinks are non-alcoholic
    beverages, typically carbonated and often sweetened,
    like sodas or colas.

    The John Sowa example ontology is said to have been
    data mined, since he writes: “The formal concept analysis
    (FCA) techniques belong to the general class of data mining
    procedures, which find patterns in a relational database.”

    It seems ChatGPT uses other data sources and/or data
    mining techniques to get their ontologies.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    At least John Sowa is not panicing when
    he bashes LLM. Here is another video by him,
    where he pulls all registers:

    Without Ontology LLMs are Clueless by JohnSowa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wZbbISdyA

    One could adopt his stance, including spreading
    rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
    LLMs do also represent ontologies.

    Just make a test, take any of John Sowas drawings:

    https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/

    Now ask ChatGPT:

    Q: give me an overview of the beverages
    that humans consume

    A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
    broadly categorized based on their preparation,
    ingredients, and purpose. Here’s an overview:

    1. Water
    [...]
    2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
    a. Hot Beverages
    [...]
    b. Cold Beverages
    [...]
    3. Alcoholic Beverages
    [...]
    4. Functional Beverages
    [...]
    5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
    [...]
    6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
    [...]

    These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
    and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
    and social interaction.

    Woa!

    Bye

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