Howdy!,

I like using the NoScript Add-on in Firefox.

When there are many Addreses to choose from I will use CTRL-U to look at
the SOURCE of the page to figure out what to Temporarily Allow in NoScript's Option Listing to get "it" (the page) to recognize my Mouse Clicks.

Some pages need one or more Google Addresses allowed to function, or
Amazon's Cloudfront or some Address unfamiliar to me that appears in
NoScript's Option LIsting.

If I need to I will Search through the SOURCE using the F3 Key and enter Addresss names in NoScript's Option Listing to see if they appear on the
SOURCE page and then Temporarily Allow that one and then check out another Address until the web page recognizes my Mouse Clicks on it.

There are a few Addresses I have selected Always Allow for, and those
are for a Page Address that I regularly visit, everything else gets the Temporarily Allowed selection.

All is fine until I Close that session of using Firefox.

The next time I use Firefox NoScript will have to be used to Temp. Allow
those Addresses again (and again and again...) when I visit a page that
needs "That Address" to work as it should.

I don't always remember Addresses that NEED TO BE USED ALWAYS when I'm using Firefox.
I guess I need to start making a list of Addresses that I know are
"Temporarly Allowable" but I keep losing that elusive ROUNDTUIT to get that (and many others) job done.

Anybody reading have a List or know of a URL to a list of NoScript Addresses that are Safe?

I am too cautious (paranoid?) to Always Allow every Safe Address, thinking
that even a popular web page/web site may get bit by Malware put on it by
a Black Hat Hacker (even for a short time) and my visiting that page would allow the Black Hat Hackers GIFT to get in my computer.

I scratch my head enough as it is when strange thing happen when I'm using
a computer.

Temporarily Allow works for me, even with my knowing if I see that Address
in NoScripts Option Listing again I will have to let the page I visited work.


Thanks for reading, 73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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On 27 Jul 20 17:38:00, Ed Vance said the following to All:

I am too cautious (paranoid?) to Always Allow every Safe Address, thinking that even a popular web page/web site may get bit by Malware put on it by
a Black Hat Hacker (even for a short time) and my visiting that page would allow the Black Hat Hackers GIFT to get in my computer.

No normal person sits there and debugs website code to the level you are describing unless they are being paid a handsome salary.

The scenario you are worried about just doesn't happen. Even if it were to happen, you would likely find out about it on the news first. If you were to
be hit with malware chances are your computer would exhibit tell-tale signs, not your bank accounts.

If you are that paranoid about browser security, then piece together a seperate dedicated system to browse the web with which has absolutely no personal files whatsoever, no saved passwords, no access to any network shares or devices etc.

Nick

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07-28-20 05:29 Nick Andre wrote to Ed Vance about Re: NoScript
Howdy! Nick,

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On 27 Jul 20 17:38:00, Ed Vance said the following to All:

I am too cautious (paranoid?) to Always Allow every Safe Address, thinking that even a popular web page/web site may get bit by Malware put on it by a Black Hat Hacker (even for a short time) and my visiting that page would allow the Black Hat Hackers GIFT to get in my computer.

No normal person sits there and debugs website code to the level you
are describing unless they are being paid a handsome salary.

You have been a BBS User for a long time and I would had thought that You
know that I wasn't a normal person from reading messages that I post.

The scenario you are worried about just doesn't happen. Even if it were
to happen, you would likely find out about it on the news first. If you were to be hit with malware chances are your computer would exhibit tell-tale signs, not your bank accounts.

I usually don't watch or listen to TV or Radio when the News is being told about.

I use Mailwasher free and Mozilla Thunderbird for Email.
If I see an unwanted Email after I used Mailwasher to see if the Mail
Server has any for me I will go to the Web Mail site and delete that message,

Before I Sign In to the Email option, I will see aome links to News Articles and I may read the summary of a few of them and then go do what I wanted to
do, then I Sign Out and use Mailwasher to check Email again, and then
Get Email with Thunderbird and read the messages.

I don't use the computer for any bsnking, If I want to buy something I see advertised by a Companies internet page, I will call their toll free number
to see if they will accept my personal check for the item and then send what
I ordered when the check has cleared. Works for me.

If you are that paranoid about browser security, then piece together a seperate dedicated system to browse the web with which has absolutely
no personal files whatsoever, no saved passwords, no access to any
network shares or devices etc.

Thanks for the idea.

I've learned about accessories being made for the Commodore 64 that have
a CAT-5 connector that I could run a cable from that to a port on the Router
to use the internet with the C=64.
And it might be the same accessory that has a SD Card slot built in on it.

Both of those things have crossed my mind, but I haven't desired to shell out any cash to buy new things for the c=64.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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On 28 Jul 20 22:16:00, Ed Vance said the following to Nick Andre:

No normal person sits there and debugs website code to the level you are describing unless they are being paid a handsome salary.

You have been a BBS User for a long time and I would had thought that You know that I wasn't a normal person from reading messages that I post.

8-)

I use Mailwasher free and Mozilla Thunderbird for Email.
If I see an unwanted Email after I used Mailwasher to see if the Mail Server has any for me I will go to the Web Mail site and delete that messag

[...]

If it works for you, so be it. I never tell someone how to run their system, only offer advice as a hands on bench-tech for 20+ some odd years... servicing hundreds if not thousands of computers. After awhile, you begin to see some patterns with the service-tickets and begin to politely question the customer.

At least you do not experiment with overclocking your computer to run some stupid game and later wonder why it randomly crashes?

Nick

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07-28-20 23:38 Nick Andre wrote to Ed Vance about Re: NoScript
Howdy! again Nick,

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On 28 Jul 20 22:16:00, Ed Vance said the following to Nick Andre:

-snip-

I use Mailwasher free and Mozilla Thunderbird for Email.
If I see an unwanted Email after I used Mailwasher to see if the Mail Server has any for me I will go to the Web Mail site and delete that message

[...]

If it works for you, so be it. I never tell someone how to run their system, only offer advice as a hands on bench-tech for 20+ some odd years... servicing hundreds if not thousands of computers. After
awhile, you begin to see some patterns with the service-tickets and
begin to politely question the customer.

My main reason for being a BBS User is to read what other Users write about problems they have, and reading what help Users with more experienced write
in their replies about it.

I'm a bit more knowledgeable about this here computer stuff that I was
back in 1984 when I bought a Floppy Drive instead of a Cassette Drive when
I got my Commodore 64 pc.

The day I got the C=64 and 1541 I bought a pack of two 5.25 inch Floppy Disks so I could Save some BASIC Programs I typed in from Popular Electronics or Radio-Electronics magazines.

I failed every time I try to Format one of the disks, even though I typed
the NEW command exactly as it was printed on the page in the 1541 book.

It may had been over a week before I got one of those Disks Formatted,
and that only happened because Commodore included a Utility Disk with the
FDD.
I knew enought that I could LOAD and LIST the Program Files that were on that Disk and while I was reading the listing for the program to Test the 1541 I noticed it had a line with the NEW Command in it.

I Ran the Program and followed the instruction to insert a Blank Disk.
After the Test finished I learned my floppy disk had been Formatted and
I could finally Save what I typed in to a Floppy.

It was many Months before I figured out that I was suppose to use the
OPEN 15,8,15 Command that was at the beginning of the 1541 book before I
typed NEW to wake up the FDD so it would Format a Disk for me.

And of course type CLOSE 15 to tell the 1541 I was done using the NEW Command.

Speaking of "patterns".

I met a man at a Electronics Parts Store who told me he worked for a Hotel
and serviced the Television Sets there.

When the Owner needed to buy new TV Sets he would buy the same TV Set model
for each Room in the building plus a few more so his technician could
replace the Set that needed repairing with one that worked and take the Set that failed to his shop.

After a period of time the tech saw that the same part would be the cause
of the Sets to fail.

When he went to the Parts Store he would buy enough of that component to be able to fix that faulty TV Set, AND to be able to quickly fix the next bunch
of Sets that would need the same repair job.

That sounds like something You would probably do too.

At least you do not experiment with overclocking your computer to run
some stupid game and later wonder why it randomly crashes?

I've read about overclocking the CPU.

The closest to overclocking that I've done is to upgrade the 486DX33 CPU on
the Motherboard with a 486DX2-66 CPU the Tech who built the computer for me gave to me after he upgraded his own computer to a Pentium CPU.

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It was about 1961 when I went to a Movie Theater to watch a Gladiator Movie.
It was the first Gladiator movie I ever paid to watch.

I can't remember if I stayed to watch the entire show, but I never paid to watch another Gladiator Movie.

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Ed,

I am too cautious (paranoid?) to Always Allow every Safe Address, thinking that even a popular web page/web site may get bit by Malware put on it by a Black Hat Hacker (even for a short time) and my visiting that page would allow the Black Hat Hackers GIFT to get in my computer.

You have to "practice safe hex".

You know that I wasn't a normal person from reading messages that I
post.

No comment...discretion is the better part of valor. <G>

I usually don't watch or listen to TV or Radio when the News is being
told about.

You and me both. Now, the weather and sports, are a different matter.

I use Mailwasher free and Mozilla Thunderbird for Email.

I registered MailWasher Pro a long time ago, and used the Courier Email program, which I also registered. But, since I'm now with GMail, I don't
use those others anymore.

If I see an unwanted Email after I used Mailwasher to see if the Mail Server has any for me I will go to the Web Mail site and delete that message,

I would just zap it with MailWasher...it did allow a "safe preview" of
the email.

I don't use the computer for any bsnking, If I want to buy something I
see advertised by a Companies internet page, I will call their toll
free number to see if they will accept my personal check for the item
and then send what I ordered when the check has cleared. Works for me.

I use the app on my smartphone just to check the balances. I rarely write checks anymore...most of my transactions are done electronically.

Both of those things have crossed my mind, but I haven't desired to
shell out any cash to buy new things for the c=64.

On the Multimode Digital Voice Net last week, on The QuadNet Array, the question was on operating systems. When I mentioned that in the past, I was running GT Power for dial-up under DOS 5.0 with DESQView and the QEMM Memory Manager from Quarterdeck Software, you should've heard the "wipe the dust
off that one!!" comments. <G>

Both Quarterdeck, who did QEMM and DESQView...and TeleGraphix, who did
RIP Graphics, are long gone out of business.

Daryl, WX4QZ

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On 29 Jul 20 22:29:00, Ed Vance said the following to Nick Andre:

I'm a bit more knowledgeable about this here computer stuff that I was
back in 1984 when I bought a Floppy Drive instead of a Cassette Drive when I got my Commodore 64 pc.

I first got into computing with the Vic 20 and the cassette drive... wrote a lot of BASIC programs and some assembler.

When he went to the Parts Store he would buy enough of that component to be able to fix that faulty TV Set, AND to be able to quickly fix the next bunc of Sets that would need the same repair job.

That sounds like something You would probably do too.

Yes I worked in a shop as part of a larger organization that had to keep a steady supply of replacement keyboards/touchpads and power supplies for a bunch of Dell laptops that were in use at the time. All exact models.

Nick

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Ed,

My main reason for being a BBS User is to read what other Users write about problems they have, and reading what help Users with more experienced write in their replies about it.

While not so much for a technical deal for me, I like the fellowship
and general banter. I can write a batchfile for the BBS, but my
programming ENDS at setting the clock on a microwave oven. <G>

I'm a bit more knowledgeable about this here computer stuff that I was back in 1984 when I bought a Floppy Drive instead of a Cassette Drive
when I got my Commodore 64 pc.

My first computer was a Radio Shack MC-10 Micro Color Computer, and
a 300 baud modem, with the programs saved and loaded via cassette tape.

I knew enought that I could LOAD and LIST the Program Files that were
on that Disk and while I was reading the listing for the program to
Test the 1541 I noticed it had a line with the NEW Command in it.

I did very minimal with the programming end of it.

It was about 1961 when I went to a Movie Theater to watch a Gladiator Movie. It was the first Gladiator movie I ever paid to watch.

There was a comic book with the Pink Panther outwitting a Roman
Gladiator. <G>

... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!

On my train of thought, most are riding for less than half fare. <G>

Daryl

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07-29-20 06:45 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: NoScript
Howdy! Daryl,

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Ed,

-snip-

I use Mailwasher free and Mozilla Thunderbird for Email.

I registered MailWasher Pro a long time ago, and used the Courier
Email program, which I also registered. But, since I'm now with GMail,
I don't use those others anymore.

I use the Free versions of Antivirus, Malware Dectectors, Mailwasher.
You already know I'm a cheap LID.
Others here probably know that too.

If I see an unwanted Email after I used Mailwasher to see if the Mail Server has any for me I will go to the Web Mail site and delete that message,

I would just zap it with MailWasher...it did allow a "safe preview"
of the email.

"My thoughts" about doing that is that Mailwasher Free just tells the Webmail Server only to DELETE the Email instead of letting the Webmail Server MARK
that one as SPAM and send it to the Email Accounts SPAM BOX, so the Webmail Server CAN REMEMBER what i think it should do to the message so Mailwasher won't even see it.

That is why I go to Webmail and tell it what it should do with future
messages sent from THAT Address.

Mailwasher Free telling WebMail to Delete the Email each time it sees one
from THAT Address, just because that Address is in its SPAM or Black List(s)
to me is making Mailwasher Free have to work overtime.

My method is to have those Emails never being been sent to Mailwasher free again for it to see one from that Address anymore.

Of course Mailwasher does remember how I marked the Email and most probably sends it to its Black List or SPAM List the first time I mark it as unwanted
so I wouldn't see it when I check Email with Mailwasher Free.

It just tells the Webmail Server to DELETE the message. OVER AND OVER...

I don't use the computer for any bsnking, If I want to buy something I
see advertised by a Companies internet page, I will call their toll
free number to see if they will accept my personal check for the item
and then send what I ordered when the check has cleared. Works for me.

I use the app on my smartphone just to check the balances. I rarely write checks anymore...most of my transactions are done electronically.

I hope You never get BIT doing that.

I rather avoid the chance of what money I have going somewhere I didn't want
it to go to.

Both of those things have crossed my mind, but I haven't desired to
shell out any cash to buy new things for the c=64.

On the Multimode Digital Voice Net last week, on The QuadNet Array,
the question was on operating systems. When I mentioned that in the
past, I was running GT Power for dial-up under DOS 5.0 with DESQView
and the QEMM Memory Manager from Quarterdeck Software, you should've
heard the "wipe the dust off that one!!" comments. <G>

Both Quarterdeck, who did QEMM and DESQView...and TeleGraphix, who
did RIP Graphics, are long gone out of business.

I also ran DOS 5.0 and used QEMM.
Years later I was at a Salvation Army Thrift Store and bought a CD that had
IBM DOS 7 on it.

I think I still used QEMM after installing DOS 7 on the pc.

I didn't remove MS DOS 5.0, I figured if I entered a Command, that IBM DOS 7 would use its version of the Command and if still wanted to use DOSSHELL or another Command that wasn't in IBM's DOS 7 that I could do that since the
DOS 5.0 files still were on the pc.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .

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07-30-20 12:24 Nick Andre wrote to Ed Vance about Re: NoScript
Howdy! Again Nick,

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On 29 Jul 20 22:29:00, Ed Vance said the following to Nick Andre:

I'm a bit more knowledgeable about this here computer stuff that I was back in 1984 when I bought a Floppy Drive instead of a Cassette Drive when I got my Commodore 64 pc.

I first got into computing with the Vic 20 and the cassette drive...
wrote a lot of BASIC programs and some assembler.

I used the Demo Vic=20 in some stores along with trying Atari 400 and 800 and the Texas Instruments TI-99/4, Radio Shacks TRS-80,Apples Apple ][ and MacIntosh pc's but decided to get the C=64 as my first computer.

Some friends I met on Ham Radio had Apple ]['s but the asking price was
USD $300.00 more than the C=64, 1541 and VicModem 300 I bought.

A friend at Church had a TRS-80 Model 1 that stored programs on Cassette
Tapes but I saw that the Floppy Drive on a Apple ][ was quicker Loading and Saving programs and decided to spend the extra money to get the 1541 FDD with the C=64.

I said this before but that friend with the TRS-80 pc got a C=64 a few months prior to my buying one.
He didn't have a Cassette Drive, only the pc, and told me it hurt him to type
a Basic Listing in and after Running it turning the pc off and lose his work.

I told him about a 7414

When he went to the Parts Store he would buy enough of that component to

e

able to fix that faulty TV Set, AND to be able to quickly fix the next

unc

of Sets that would need the same repair job.

That sounds like something You would probably do too.

Yes I worked in a shop as part of a larger organization that had to
keep a steady supply of replacement keyboards/touchpads and power
supplies for a bunch of Dell laptops that were in use at the time. All exact models.

Nick

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Ed,

I use the Free versions of Antivirus, Malware Dectectors, Mailwasher.
You already know I'm a cheap LID.
Others here probably know that too.

Well, ham radio operators are "frugal cheapskates", and there's not
a thing wrong with that. Several years ago, there was a DC to Daylight
rig at Hamvention for $20,000!! Now, I could outfit a nice shack (or
buy a nice car) for that; but for one rig, to me that's overkill.

"My thoughts" about doing that is that Mailwasher Free just tells the Webmail Server only to DELETE the Email instead of letting the Webmail Server MARK that one as SPAM and send it to the Email Accounts SPAM
BOX, so the Webmail Server CAN REMEMBER what i think it should do to
the message so Mailwasher won't even see it.

I don't remember the features of it...but it was lifetime registration,
as I recall.

I don't use the computer for any bsnking, If I want to buy something I
see advertised by a Companies internet page, I will call their toll
free number to see if they will accept my personal check for the item
and then send what I ordered when the check has cleared. Works for me.

I don't do any transactions on the phone app...mainly for checking the balance, and updating the checkbook.

I hope You never get BIT doing that.

I was the victim of identity theft years ago, at a hamfest. They did reimburse the money, but it was a pain to fix. Then, in late 2009, I
ended up filing Chapter 13 bankruptcy. I'm long since discharged from
that, but with what little I get on disability, that's not enough to
have a credit card.

Don't get me started about those greedy [idiots] in Washington, DC,
who lament "they can't survive on $200,000+ a year"...they don't have
a clue.

I also ran DOS 5.0 and used QEMM.
Years later I was at a Salvation Army Thrift Store and bought a CD that had IBM DOS 7 on it.

Wow. I'm going to get a bunch of shareware files from Sean, KS4TD, soon.
I made a donation to his BBS, and he's burning a bunch of CD's/DVD's to
send to me.

I didn't remove MS DOS 5.0, I figured if I entered a Command, that IBM
DOS 7 would use its version of the Command and if still wanted to use DOSSHELL or another Command that wasn't in IBM's DOS 7 that I could do that since the DOS 5.0 files still were on the pc.

The only reason I upgraded to Windows 10 (32-bit on the BBS computer,
which is now on what was my late Mom's computer, 64-bit on the Lenovo
laptop, where I do my ham radio nets, square dancing, and BBS related
items), was for the security issues and updates. Otherwise, I was happy
with Windows XP and then 7...I never did use Vista or 8.

Daryl, WX4QZ

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