• Zeldin-Hochul

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Tue Nov 15 18:12:32 2022
    New York has 62 counties, and Kathy Hochul only won in 13 of them.

    https://tinyurl.com/bdfwztwa

    If you scroll down, there's a map of which counties voted which way. To me, it looks a failed Democracy. There's no other state in the USA that will have a blue victory map looking so red.

    It's frustrating that so many of us have to live under the discretion of a few lousy counties.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Nov 15 16:19:00 2022
    https://tinyurl.com/bdfwztwa

    If you scroll down, there's a map of which counties voted which way. To me,
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    looks a failed Democracy. There's no other state in the USA that will have a blue victory map looking so red.

    It's frustrating that so many of us have to live under the discretion of a
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    lousy counties.

    Kentucky has 120. Back when Bill Clinton won the state the first time, he
    did it by carrying 3 of those counties. A few others were also blue, but
    it was 3 counties that outweighed the rest of the state.

    Some states split their electoral votes, but most do not, and that does not help in a governor's race. I did not look at the last race for KY governor
    but I suspect those 3 counties played a big role in the election of our
    current governor.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Tue Nov 15 22:37:25 2022
    Some states split their electoral votes, but most do not, and that does not help in a governor's race. I did not look at the last race for KY governor but I suspect those 3 counties played a big role in the
    election of our current governor.

    All it takes is a Democrat governor to ruin everything.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 16 07:34:55 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    It's frustrating that so many of us have to live under the discretion
    of a few lousy counties.

    We've lived with that here in Michigan for a long time. Lansing, Grand Rapids and Detroit effectively decide everything on the ballot.

    "Failed democracy" is a good term here. We are supposed to have a Republic and part of that is to prevent the "tyranny of the majority". So a purely popular vote should not decide things.

    I've been wanting to move to something like each area (county, more than that?) gets 1 vote. The popular vote within that area decides which way the vote will happen. But it would mean that places like Detroit get 1 vote and not 5,000,000 votes.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 16 07:34:55 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    All it takes is a Democrat governor to ruin everything.

    As we've seen here in Michigan.

    We now have insecure elections as part of the Constitution, as well as removal of parental rights (but I think that will get struck down when it goes to court).


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Wed Nov 16 13:48:16 2022
    "Failed democracy" is a good term here. We are supposed to have a Republic and part of that is to prevent the "tyranny of the majority".
    So a purely popular vote should not decide things.

    I've been wanting to move to something like each area (county, more than that?) gets 1 vote. The popular vote within that area decides which way the vote will happen. But it would mean that places like Detroit get 1 vote and not 5,000,000 votes.

    That would be great, but it sounds like a hard sell for the elitists.

    What if we repeal some of these horrible state laws (like bail reform) and
    let local governments made their own decisions on them? That way upstate conservatives aren't forced to do the George Soros Shuffle.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Wed Nov 16 16:35:35 2022
    We now have insecure elections as part of the Constitution, as well as removal of parental rights (but I think that will get struck down when
    it goes to court).

    What's going on with parental rights?

    Here in NY, recently, my kid has been learning about alternative genders. I complained to the school superintendant only to discover that the discussion was in response to a new NY Hochul law called "Gender Expression Non Discrimination Act."

    And that explains why now I see "preferred pronoun" on state forms (like my NY energy assistance application.) I'm enouraging other NYers to always use ridiculous, awkward, and even offensive pronouns (like "fat ass" or "Democrat victim." Maybe some idiotic humor is what it will take to make people realize how idiotic the new law is!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Nov 17 07:47:07 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That would be great, but it sounds like a hard sell for the elitists.

    That would be the barrier for any changes since they have worked hard to create a system that benefits them. Which is one of the reasons they want to keep Trump out.

    What if we repeal some of these horrible state laws (like bail reform)
    and let local governments made their own decisions on them? That way upstate conservatives aren't forced to do the George Soros Shuffle.

    Good luck for the same reason as above. The Elitists infiltrate at all levels.
    The higher levels are easier for them to push their agenda down rather than take over many lower levels and push their agenda at those levels.

    Hence the massive election fraud that's been happening.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Nov 17 07:47:07 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    What's going on with parental rights?

    The Elitists play the long game.

    By taking kids from parents, the Elitists can mold the kids into the robots that they want when they become adults. Right out of the Communist playbook.

    Think of how long it has taken them to infiltrate and wreck the education system, and create whole generations of people who can't think critically - or even think for themselves.

    Here in NY, recently, my kid has been learning about alternative
    genders. I complained to the school superintendant only to discover
    that the discussion was in response to a new NY Hochul law called
    "Gender Expression Non Discrimination Act."

    They always dress up laws with titles that have nothing to do with what the law actually does.

    And that explains why now I see "preferred pronoun" on state forms
    (like my NY energy assistance application.) I'm enouraging other NYers
    to always use ridiculous, awkward, and even offensive pronouns (like
    "fat ass" or "Democrat victim." Maybe some idiotic humor is what it
    will take to make people realize how idiotic the new law is!

    But the people who would think it idiotic aren't the ones they are targeting.


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  • From Rebecca Marie@1:124/5016 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Nov 19 21:47:00 2022
    Aaron Thomas said to Ron L.: <=-

    And that explains why now I see "preferred pronoun" on state forms
    (like my NY energy assistance application.) I'm enouraging other NYers
    to always use ridiculous, awkward, and even offensive pronouns (like

    Why in the world does it make any difference to you if there's a preferred pronoun field? Just don't fill it out, or if you can't submit a form
    without it, then put "he/his". It literally makes no difference to you,
    since you know your pronouns.

    It makes no difference to you, but it can be the difference between life
    and death for a trans person. Though from your comments here, I'm guessing
    that you don't believe that trans-people deserve to live.

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  • From Rebecca Marie@1:124/5016 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Nov 19 21:49:00 2022
    Aaron Thomas said to All: <=-

    https://tinyurl.com/bdfwztwa

    If you scroll down, there's a map of which counties voted which way. To
    me, it looks a failed Democracy. There's no other state in the USA that will have a blue victory map looking so red.

    Land can't vote, only people can. Overlay a population map over the physical map and you'll see exactly why New York is blue.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to REBECCA MARIE on Sun Nov 20 18:18:00 2022
    It makes no difference to you, but it can be the difference between life
    and death for a trans person. Though from your comments here, I'm guessing that you don't believe that trans-people deserve to live.

    You are right it makes no difference to Aaron, but it also really makes no difference to a trans person. At worst, it will hurt their feelings if you accidentally call them the wrong one, which is not going to kill them.

    On the other hand, being misidentified as being something other than what
    you were biologically born as can lead to some issues when it comes to receiving the proper medical care if you are not conscious. Some
    medications and treatments are only meant for persons who were born male (or female). I would be more worried about that than whether or not my feelings got hurt.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Rebecca Marie on Sun Nov 20 19:28:01 2022
    Why in the world does it make any difference to you if there's a
    preferred pronoun field? Just don't fill it out, or if you can't submit
    a form without it, then put "he/his". It literally makes no difference
    to you, since you know your pronouns.

    It's not the form that bothers me. The policy is the problem. Kids should be allowed to see a girlish person and say "I know that girl" without being punished for failing to say "I know that transexualish person." Kids don't know what's inside the pants, and they shouldn't have to find out ahead of making
    an innocent comment.

    Another part of the policy that sucks is that kids are allowed to declare a
    new gender without parental consent, opening the door for a lifetime of difficulty, just because Democrats expect them all to vote Democrat once old enough (and minoritized.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Mon Nov 21 00:30:48 2022
    On the other hand, being misidentified as being something other than what you were biologically born as can lead to some issues when it comes to receiving the proper medical care if you are not conscious. Some medications and treatments are only meant for persons who were born male (or female). I would be more worried about that than whether or not my feelings got hurt.

    I'm with you on that! That's better than my answer. There's a difference between harrassment and taking a wrong guess, but leftists are encouraging children to re-classify their gender so that some day a bathroom issue will have them voting straight-ticket Democrat.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Nov 21 09:34:28 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Rebecca Marie <=-

    It's not the form that bothers me. The policy is the problem. Kids
    should be allowed to see a girlish person and say "I know that girl" without being punished for failing to say "I know that transexualish person." Kids don't know what's inside the pants, and they shouldn't
    have to find out ahead of making an innocent comment.

    Sorry, but I just remembered that scene from Crocadile Dundee where he "checks" the person to make sure.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Nov 21 09:34:28 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Rebecca Marie <=-

    Another part of the policy that sucks is that kids are allowed to
    declare a new gender without parental consent, opening the door for a lifetime of difficulty, just because Democrats expect them all to vote Democrat once old enough (and minoritized.)

    A long time ago, Marx predicted that the workers would rise up and overthrow the company owners. But that never happened? Why? Because the standard of living for the workers rose too.

    The Marsists of today realize that people who are happy and content will never "rise up" (and be controlled by the Marxist leaders). So they have to create strife. Today that's in the form of racism, sexual identity, product shortages, etc.

    People who are focused on heating their homes and getting food on the table don't pay as much attention to how their rights are being stolen from them.

    The whole "allowing kids to select their gender" is an effort to destroy their childhood and keep them off balance as they become adults.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Nov 21 16:52:00 2022
    On the other hand, being misidentified as being something other than
    hat
    you were biologically born as can lead to some issues when it comes to receiving the proper medical care if you are not conscious. Some medications and treatments are only meant for persons who were born male (or female). I would be more worried about that than whether or not my feelings got hurt.

    I'm with you on that! That's better than my answer. There's a difference between harrassment and taking a wrong guess, but leftists are encouraging children to re-classify their gender so that some day a bathroom issue will have them voting straight-ticket Democrat.

    I would argue that choosing a different pronoun than what's expected is
    more likely to become a life-or-death issue when it comes to bullying. If
    a biological "he" goes by he rather than she/ze/they, they are drawing less attention to themselves.

    Having been bullied about various things as a youngster, I cannot fathom wanting to draw more attention to oneself with things that others (i.e. bullies) will find odd.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Nov 21 16:52:00 2022
    The whole "allowing kids to select their gender" is an effort to destroy
    heir
    childhood and keep them off balance as they become adults.

    +1. When people reach that age where they are really sexually aware of
    the opposite (or same) sex, that is one thing. But starting on kids that
    are too young to know, or care, what that is all about is something else entirely. It will only confuse them and lead to trouble.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Mon Nov 21 15:56:55 2022
    Sorry, but I just remembered that scene from Crocadile Dundee where he "checks" the person to make sure.

    "Holly came from Miami F.L.A.,
    Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.,
    Plucked her eyebrows on the way,
    Shaved her legs and then he was a she,
    She says, "Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side"

    ......and this is what leftists want for our kids

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Tue Nov 22 07:23:41 2022
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    +1. When people reach that age where they are really sexually aware
    of the opposite (or same) sex, that is one thing. But starting on kids that are too young to know, or care, what that is all about is
    something else entirely. It will only confuse them and lead to
    trouble.

    I'm seeing that on a personal level right now.

    I have a nephew who "came out" and is now in a deep depression.

    Keep in mind that the whole family supported him. None of this "I'll not have a gay <relative>!" ranting from anyone.

    Now that he's older, the natural BS detector is kicking in and he's questioning his reality - and he's not liking the answers that he's coming up with as they are shaking his whole self.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Mon Nov 21 23:34:47 2022
    Having been bullied about various things as a youngster, I cannot fathom wanting to draw more attention to oneself with things that others (i.e. bullies) will find odd.

    Good point that bullying will follow. Democrats are great stategists. If they don't win them over by being "the party that cares about trans people," then as a last resort they can be "the party that cares about bullying" (a contingency plan.)

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Nov 22 21:04:41 2022
    Aaron Thomas -> Mike Powell skrev 2022-11-22 00:34:
    Good point that bullying will follow. Democrats are great stategists. If they
    don't win them over by being "the party that cares about trans people," then as
    a last resort they can be "the party that cares about bullying" (a contingency
    plan.)

    Who told you that? Where can I find this contingency plan?



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Tue Nov 22 16:23:00 2022
    +1. When people reach that age where they are really sexually aware
    of the opposite (or same) sex, that is one thing. But starting on kids that are too young to know, or care, what that is all about is
    something else entirely. It will only confuse them and lead to
    trouble.

    I'm seeing that on a personal level right now.

    I have a nephew who "came out" and is now in a deep depression.

    Keep in mind that the whole family supported him. None of this "I'll not have
    a gay <relative>!" ranting from anyone.

    I have a relative who came out fairly young also, when it seemed to be the
    in thing to do. She has stuck with it so far, though, and no one I am aware
    of has given her grief over it.

    Now that he's older, the natural BS detector is kicking in and he's questionin
    his reality - and he's not liking the answers that he's coming up with as they
    are shaking his whole self.

    That is what supposedly happens to people who try to be straight and then realize they are not, so I am not too surprised that the opposite can also happen.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Björn Felten on Wed Nov 23 01:08:12 2022
    Good point that bullying will follow. Democrats are great stategists. they
    don't win them over by being "the party that cares about trans people then as
    a last resort they can be "the party that cares about bullying" (a contingency
    plan.)

    Who told you that? Where can I find this contingency plan?

    Cockroach larvae is easy to disect. I forgot to mention that "this is all just my own personal theory."

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Nov 23 10:00:20 2022
    Aaron Thomas -> Bjrn Felten skrev 2022-11-23 02:08:
    I forgot to mention that "this is all just
    my own personal theory."

    No shit. Well, GIGO.

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