• Pssword ord ord case ins

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Apr 25 18:54:26 2020
    Alan Ianson wrote to Oli <=-

    Not that I know of. I have never run into a case sensitive
    tosser, at least not that I know of.

    Squish is case-sensitive with packet passwords (it's been a while since I've had to
    deal with it) ... at least the OS/2 version.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Sat Apr 25 18:56:28 2020
    mark lewis wrote to Oli <=-

    at one time, fidonet has had some folks that like to ""play games""...

    Hah, I remember that. Wasn't that what NOBOGUS was supposed to deal with?

    binkd supports inbound fileboxes... i'm not sure about tossers,
    though...

    I know that T-Mail and Internet Rex support fileboxes.

    I've never heard of a tosser supporting fileboxes because you wouldn't be putting mail packets into a filebox.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Apr 25 18:57:30 2020
    Alan Ianson wrote to Oli <=-

    If we had a reliable/secure session we wouldn't need packet passwords
    or inbound directories randomly placed around the file system.

    That's what a session password is for.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Sat Apr 25 17:50:12 2020
    Re: Pssword ord ord case ins
    By: Sean Dennis to mark lewis on Sat Apr 25 2020 06:56 pm

    mark lewis wrote to Oli <=-

    at one time, fidonet has had some folks that like to ""play games""...

    Hah, I remember that. Wasn't that what NOBOGUS was supposed to deal with?

    binkd supports inbound fileboxes... i'm not sure about tossers, though...

    I know that T-Mail and Internet Rex support fileboxes.

    I've never heard of a tosser supporting fileboxes because you wouldn't be putting mail packets into a filebox.

    SBBSecho supports both inboxes and outboxes, and yes, you can put packets and bundles into fileboxes.

    digital man

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Sat Apr 25 23:13:58 2020
    Hi Rob,

    SBBSecho supports both inboxes and outboxes, and yes,
    you can put packets and bundles into fileboxes.

    I guess I could see that if you're not running a FEM. I've always used a BSO so the directories are easy to fake even if you're not using a FEM, like I am with Internet Rex. I do have BinkleyTerm set up and ready to use though.

    That's the first I've heard of with a tosser supporting those functions. I guess I'm just falling behind. :D

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Sean Dennis on Sat Apr 25 22:38:14 2020
    Hello Sean,

    If we had a reliable/secure session we wouldn't need packet
    passwords or inbound directories randomly placed around the file
    system.

    That's what a session password is for.

    I was talking about binkps over TLS. In that case we wouldn't need a session password either since we are relying on the TLS handshake.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Alan Ianson on Sat Apr 25 23:42:28 2020
    Re: Pssword ord ord case ins
    By: Alan Ianson to Sean Dennis on Sat Apr 25 2020 10:38 pm

    Hello Sean,

    If we had a reliable/secure session we wouldn't need packet
    passwords or inbound directories randomly placed around the file
    system.

    That's what a session password is for.

    I was talking about binkps over TLS. In that case we wouldn't need a session password either since we are relying on the TLS handshake.

    The way were using TLS with BINKPS, it provides privacy (secrecy), but not authentication. We still rely on the session passwords for authentication.

    digital man

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Rob Swindell on Sun Apr 26 00:05:52 2020
    Hello Rob,

    I was talking about binkps over TLS. In that case we wouldn't need
    a session password either since we are relying on the TLS
    handshake.

    The way were using TLS with BINKPS, it provides privacy (secrecy), but
    not authentication. We still rely on the session passwords for authentication.

    Oops, I forgot about that. OK, we'll keep the session/packet paswords. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Sun Apr 26 10:50:29 2020
    Re: Pssword ord ord case ins
    By: Sean Dennis to mark lewis on Sat Apr 25 2020 18:56:28


    at one time, fidonet has had some folks that like to ""play games""...

    Hah, I remember that. Wasn't that what NOBOGUS was supposed to deal with?

    it was one of the programs created to deal with them, yes...

    binkd supports inbound fileboxes... i'm not sure about tossers,
    though...

    I know that T-Mail and Internet Rex support fileboxes.

    yep...

    I've never heard of a tosser supporting fileboxes because you wouldn't
    be putting mail packets into a filebox.

    why not? consider a node or point that resides on the same LAN as a hub... why not put the files/bundles/packets in shared filebox directories instead of using mailers over the LAN? the end result is the same, of course ;)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Sun Apr 26 10:54:40 2020
    Re: Pssword ord ord case ins
    By: Alan Ianson to Sean Dennis on Sat Apr 25 2020 22:38:14


    If we had a reliable/secure session we wouldn't need packet
    passwords or inbound directories randomly placed around the file
    system.

    That's what a session password is for.

    I was talking about binkps over TLS. In that case we wouldn't need
    a session password either since we are relying on the TLS handshake.

    are two condoms better than one?

    with the speed of today's systems, the additional processing and/or the decision to use or not the session password is negligible... the additional space required is equally negligible, as well...


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 26 12:26:24 2020
    Hello mark,

    I was talking about binkps over TLS. In that case we wouldn't
    need a session password either since we are relying on the TLS
    handshake.

    are two condoms better than one?

    In the case of TLS we get a secure session but that could be anyone so we still
    need a session password or some mechanism to authenticate so mail from non password protected sessions is placed in the non secure inbound.

    I was wrong when I said the above.

    with the speed of today's systems, the additional processing and/or
    the decision to use or not the session password is negligible... the additional space required is equally negligible, as well...

    That is true but a proper binkps protocol (if there ever is one) would best be designed simply to do what we need it to do in an efficient way.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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