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    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Wed Feb 3 23:49:00 2021
    Hello y'All!

    I am having a hard time retaining interest in this series. I
    really thought that this one would truly be interesting. I just
    finished episode 6 of S1. Each episode ends with a kind of
    cliff-hanger, so I am urged to see what happens next.

    But the imagined world is just not working for me, and I think I
    know why.

    For me, I think it is a lack of change of scenery/locations. I
    mean, the scenes out in space are interesting to see, but then
    the ship interiors tend to look the same and I don't feel that I
    have travelled anywhere. I feel stuck. Hence, the story feels
    stuck and a bit bland.

    Anyone else sail through this one? Does it get more
    interesting?

    If it was just a 100 minute movie, then the limited scenes
    wouldn't be an issue. But after nearly 6 hours commited to the
    story line, I was hoping for a grander adventure. I am not sure
    I want to spend the rest of about fifty more hours with it.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Fri Feb 5 16:49:00 2021
    Anyone else sail through this one? Does it get more
    interesting?

    It took me a few episodes to get hooked. I have just finished
    watching Season 4 this week. IMHO, that series is better than the Star Wars saga, and I love the original Star Wars movies.

    One thing you have to realize is that, aside from ship interiors, space is pretty dark and, if we ever do colonize it, it will probably be a lot more boring than previous space movies/shows have depicted it as being.

    In S4, without giving away spoilers, they do more time showing other
    planets (at least two) and less time on the industrialized asteroids.

    My understanding is that S5 may show more areas of Earth beyond downtown
    NYC. As that one is not on DVD yet, I will be waiting a while to see it.
    If S4 was any indication, it probably won't come out on DVD until about the time S6 is about to be dropped.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Mike Powell on Sat Feb 6 08:42:00 2021
    Hello Mike!

    ** On Friday 05.02.21 - 16:49, Mike Powell wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    Anyone else sail through this one? Does it get more
    interesting?

    It took me a few episodes to get hooked. I have just
    finished watching Season 4 this week.

    It finally seemed to pick up at E8. E8 E9 and E10 where faster
    paced; that made it interesting. I had read the short synopses
    and wondered when the bio hazard stuff would come in.

    Now I need to find out why the people on Eros station were
    purposely infected - except perhaps to act as sources for more
    of the bio stuff.

    I'm still confused as to the role the UN is playing in all of
    this, and I'm finding that chapter of the story to be tedious.

    IMHO, that series is better than the Star Wars saga, and I
    love the original Star Wars movies.

    Wow, that says a lot. I really liked the SW saga (except for
    the film with the loopy kangaroo-like character with the floppy
    ears)

    One thing you have to realize is that, aside from ship
    interiors, space is pretty dark and, if we ever do colonize
    it, it will probably be a lot more boring than previous
    space movies/shows have depicted it as being.

    Good point about the dark. As for colonization, I really doubt
    it. Humans are simply not a good match for sustained life out
    there: low gravity issues leading to reduced bone mass and
    density, radiation from all directions, etc. It would seem that
    once you are exposed to long periods in space, then return to
    Earth is not feasible.

    I liked some of the attempts to deal with the logistics of how
    to justify walking upright in zero g. The magnetic clip solution
    on the boots is interesting.

    The use of conventional weapons, as opposed to lasers, is
    interesting too. I would think that is primarily in part to it
    being easier in post-production to add a tiny flash at the end
    of a gun and discharge explosives in controlled areas of a set
    than it is to draw in laser lines and add colour.

    In S4, without giving away spoilers, they do more time
    showing other planets (at least two) and less time on the
    industrialized asteroids.

    At this point, I just want to know how the bio weapon came to be
    and why that one fellow on Eros station was gathering samples
    from the Julie Mao character. I also want to know WHY the
    Canterbury had to be destroyed.

    At the end of E9, the blue bio stuff seemed to suggest that it
    had some kind of intelligence. And the long "arm" that came out
    of nowhere to crapple the lone character and whisk him off
    somewhere is another mystery.

    There also seems to be some kind of inconsistency with the bio
    thing. It is depicted as being an independent life-form thriving
    from a central location, yet somebody like the Julie Mao
    character is consumed by it and isolated.

    My understanding is that S5 may show more areas of Earth
    beyond downtown NYC. As that one is not on DVD yet, I will
    be waiting a while to see it. If S4 was any indication, it
    probably won't come out on DVD until about the time S6 is
    about to be dropped.

    I'm going to give S2 a shot. But (thankfully) it's not the kind
    of series that would have me hooked to binge-watch.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sun Feb 7 09:37:00 2021
    Now I need to find out why the people on Eros station were
    purposely infected - except perhaps to act as sources for more
    of the bio stuff.

    Without giving away spoilers... I think by S2E1 that should become apparent.

    I'm still confused as to the role the UN is playing in all of
    this, and I'm finding that chapter of the story to be tedious.

    Yes, some of it does not become apparent right away. I am a fan of film
    noir and some of the subplots in this series remind me of those movies... a
    lot of things take a while to become obvious.

    The one thing I can tell you, that you may already know, is that the UN is
    the government of Earth. Some countries may still have some independence,
    but (at least through the end of S4), the entirety of Earth (and Luna, the Moon) is governed by the UN.

    IMHO, that series is better than the Star Wars saga, and I
    love the original Star Wars movies.

    Wow, that says a lot. I really liked the SW saga (except for
    the film with the loopy kangaroo-like character with the floppy
    ears)

    Me, too, but I like this series better, maybe because it seems more
    realistic. Most of the tech used (except for things related to the Protomolecule) are extensions of things that exist now that have evolved
    over 200 years to what they are on the show.

    Good point about the dark. As for colonization, I really doubt
    it. Humans are simply not a good match for sustained life out
    there: low gravity issues leading to reduced bone mass and
    density, radiation from all directions, etc. It would seem that
    once you are exposed to long periods in space, then return to
    Earth is not feasible.

    They cover that well. Once you become an "Outer," being an "Inner" is not feasible.

    At this point, I just want to know how the bio weapon came to be
    and why that one fellow on Eros station was gathering samples
    from the Julie Mao character. I also want to know WHY the
    Canterbury had to be destroyed.

    I believe the Protomolecule stuff gets resolved pretty quickly in S2, i.e. where it came from and why they are gathering samples. As for why the Cant
    had to be destroyed, I sort of thought they covered that by the end of S1. That, too, becomes obvious as S2 goes on.

    At the end of E9, the blue bio stuff seemed to suggest that it
    had some kind of intelligence. And the long "arm" that came out
    of nowhere to crapple the lone character and whisk him off
    somewhere is another mystery.

    Yes. :)

    There also seems to be some kind of inconsistency with the bio
    thing. It is depicted as being an independent life-form thriving
    from a central location, yet somebody like the Julie Mao
    character is consumed by it and isolated.

    It is inconsistent early on. That is something that takes a while for even
    the characters involved to figure out.

    I'm going to give S2 a shot. But (thankfully) it's not the kind
    of series that would have me hooked to binge-watch.

    It would have me had I been watching it on a platform to binge. When I originally watched S1-3, it was on SyFy.

    Mike


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Mike Powell on Wed Feb 10 21:42:00 2021
    Hello Mike Powell!

    ** On Sunday 07.02.21 - 09:37, Mike Powell wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    ..I am a fan of film noir and some of the subplots in this
    series remind me of those movies... a lot of things take a
    while to become obvious.

    Like the decapitation scene in one of the episodes in S1? The
    effect was interesting - but the character's reactions were
    "meh" like they've seen it many times.

    I'll never forget how sick I felt when I went to see The Omen in
    a theatre back in the 70s and saw the decapitation scene.

    The one thing I can tell you, that you may already know, is
    that the UN is the government of Earth. ..

    ..Which seems to be how things may indeed end up in reality.

    ..Most of the tech used (except for things related to the
    Protomolecule) are extensions of things that exist now that
    have evolved over 200 years to what they are on the show.

    Yes.. I didn't see many scifi-ish new gizmos. The protomolecule
    thing just kind of reminded me what could happend when people
    eat too much sugar. :D

    ..As for why the Cant had to be destroyed, I sort of
    thought they covered that by the end of S1. That, too,
    becomes obvious as S2 goes on.

    I missed the "why" in S1 if it was mentioned. All I know is that
    the missile, that was seemingly approaching the shuttle ship,
    just zoomed passed them and went to the Cant.

    I am also confused about WHO where the people that boarded the
    Scopuli (where Julie was hiding). Did the biohazard consume the
    invaders? Did the invaders know about the biohazard?

    I'm going to give S2 a shot. But (thankfully) it's not the
    kind of series that would have me hooked to binge-watch.

    It would have me had I been watching it on a platform to
    binge. When I originally watched S1-3, it was on SyFy.

    On SyFy was it just one episode per week or something like that?

    The horror!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Thu Feb 11 13:51:00 2021
    ..As for why the Cant had to be destroyed, I sort of
    thought they covered that by the end of S1. That, too,
    becomes obvious as S2 goes on.

    SPOILERS (for others who might be reading):

    I missed the "why" in S1 if it was mentioned. All I know is that
    the missile, that was seemingly approaching the shuttle ship,
    just zoomed passed them and went to the Cant.

    The group who blew up the Cant (who were associated with the people who
    showed up on Eros and infected it with protomolecule) is trying to start a
    war between the UN and Mars. They blew up the Cant, which stirred up the Belters, then blew up the Donanger, a Martian Navy ship, to make it look
    like it was the UN that was behind everything.

    I am not sure it mattered that it was the Cant. I think they were looking
    to blow up whoever answered the distress call in order to start a conflict.

    I am also confused about WHO where the people that boarded the
    Scopuli (where Julie was hiding). Did the biohazard consume the
    invaders? Did the invaders know about the biohazard?

    The invaders took Julie aboard their ship. She was taken aboard the same ship that blew up the Cant. The invaders were apparently transporting some of
    the protomolecule somewhere. It must have somehow got loose on their ship and eventually killed/consumed them all. I think they knew what it was but
    maybe didn't know how careful they needed to be with it, OR it could be
    that they were part of the experimentation with it and didn't know it.

    I didn't pick up on this the first time, but there must have been 5 of
    those stealth ships. The one that the Scopuli was looking out for, that
    took Julie hostage, blew up the Cant, then was infected and abandoned on
    that rock. Then there were the four that attacked the Donanger. At least
    one of them survived that battle, I think.

    That is a large, private Navy.

    It would have me had I been watching it on a platform to
    binge. When I originally watched S1-3, it was on SyFy.

    On SyFy was it just one episode per week or something like that?

    The horror!

    Originally, and some of the seasons were more than a year apart. :O :D

    Mike

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