• Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12

    From Rinat H. Sadretdinow@2:5020/620 to All on Mon Jul 5 08:00:02 2021
    Hello All!

    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12 running Android 11? As I know Hotdoged requires the FTN Provider to be autostarted, but how this is possible to autostart it in Samsung Galaxy A12?

    Bye!
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.3 to Rinat H. Sadretdinow on Mon Jul 5 00:08:02 2021
    Hello All!

    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12 running Android 11?
    As know Hotdoged requires the FTN Provider to be autostarted, but how this
    is possible to autostart it in Samsung Galaxy A12?

    All I did on my android phone was install the fido provider first and then hotdoged and then once configured it all worked fine.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Rinat H. Sadretdinow on Mon Jul 5 10:49:55 2021
    Hello, Rinat H. Sadretdinow.
    On 05/07/2021 8.00 you wrote:

    Hello All!
    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12 running Android 11? As I know Hotdoged requires the FTN Provider to be autostarted, but how this is possible to autostart it in Samsung Galaxy A12?

    No problems running hotdoged with nntp and fido providers here with Samsung Galaxy A50 Android 11.

    You could try to reinstall the providers from the authors website. http://hotdoged.propush.ru/downloads

    Bye!

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    Tommi

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  • From Rinat H. Sadretdinow@2:5020/620 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jul 6 06:48:14 2021
    Hello Alan!

    05 Jul 21 00:08, you wrote to me:

    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12 running
    Android 11? As know Hotdoged requires the FTN Provider to be
    autostarted, but how this is possible to autostart it in Samsung
    Galaxy A12?

    All I did on my android phone was install the fido provider first and
    then hotdoged and then once configured it all worked fine.

    I did the same things. And did it more than once. Nothing helps.

    Bye!

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  • From Rinat H. Sadretdinow@2:5020/620 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jul 6 06:49:44 2021
    Hello Tommi!

    05 Jul 21 10:49, you wrote to me:

    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12 running
    Android 11? As I know Hotdoged requires the FTN Provider to be
    autostarted, but how this is possible to autostart it in Samsung
    Galaxy A12?

    No problems running hotdoged with nntp and fido providers here with Samsung Galaxy A50 Android 11.

    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.

    You could try to reinstall the providers from the authors website. http://hotdoged.propush.ru/downloads

    I did it and nothing helps. May be I have to play with some settings (background apps sleeping? power save? dunno what else), I hope it might help. I just don't imagine what else to try.

    Bye!

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  • From Rinat H. Sadretdinow@2:5020/620 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jul 6 08:32:28 2021
    Hello Tommi!

    06 Jul 21 06:49, I wrote to you:

    No problems running hotdoged with nntp and fido providers here
    with Samsung Galaxy A50 Android 11.

    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.

    You could try to reinstall the providers from the authors
    website.
    http://hotdoged.propush.ru/downloads

    I did it and nothing helps. May be I have to play with some settings (background apps sleeping? power save? dunno what else), I hope it
    might help. I just don't imagine what else to try.

    I've just tried all battery, energy savings and apps settings possible with nothing helped again. HotdogEd still cannot run, "Waiting for data categories to be activated" with no furter progress.

    Bye!
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  • From Dieter Schauf@2:2452/280 to Rinat H. Sadretdinow on Tue Jul 6 14:05:26 2021
    Hello Rinat,

    06 Jul 21 06:49, Rinat H. Sadretdinow wrote to Tommi Koivula:


    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.

    I have the same problems with a Samsung Tab 6. There is no support from the author. I then installed the Android app 'Aftershock' and it works without any problems.

    regards, Dieter
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Dieter Schauf on Tue Jul 6 14:21:09 2021
    Hello, Dieter Schauf.
    On 06/07/2021 15.05 you wrote:

    Hello Rinat,
    06 Jul 21 06:49, Rinat H. Sadretdinow wrote to Tommi Koivula:
    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.
    I have the same problems with a Samsung Tab 6. There is no support from the author. I then installed the Android app 'Aftershock' and it works without any problems.

    Aftershock costs money. ;) And it cant do nntp. ;(

    Tommi

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  • From Vladimir Fyodorov@2:6035/3.1 to Dieter Schauf on Tue Jul 6 15:28:26 2021
    Hello, Dieter!

    Tuesday July 06 2021, Dieter Schauf wrote to Rinat H. Sadretdinow:

    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.
    I have the same problems with a Samsung Tab 6. There is no support
    from the author. I then installed the Android app 'Aftershock' and it works without any problems.

    The 'Aftershock' has a problem with Cyrillic in the subject of the letter :(

    Sincerely yours, Vladimir Fyodorov, esquire.
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  • From Dieter Schauf@2:2452/280 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jul 6 15:27:00 2021
    Hello Tommi,

    06 Jul 21 14:21, Tommi Koivula wrote to Dieter Schauf:

    Hello, Dieter Schauf.
    On 06/07/2021 15.05 you wrote:

    Hello Rinat,
    06 Jul 21 06:49, Rinat H. Sadretdinow wrote to Tommi Koivula:
    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.

    I have the same problems with a Samsung Tab 6. There is no support from
    the author. I then installed the Android app 'Aftershock' and it works
    without any problems.

    Aftershock costs money. ;)

    Yes, a whopping 0.73 EUR ... :-)

    And it cant do nntp. ;(

    But Fido and it works. :-)

    regards, Dieter
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  • From Dieter Schauf@2:2452/280 to Vladimir Fyodorov on Tue Jul 6 15:33:34 2021
    Hello Vladimir,

    06 Jul 21 15:28, Vladimir Fyodorov wrote to Dieter Schauf:

    Hello, Dieter!

    Tuesday July 06 2021, Dieter Schauf wrote to Rinat H. Sadretdinow:

    Hotdoged does not like my Samsung Galaxy A12.

    I have the same problems with a Samsung Tab 6. There is no support
    from the author. I then installed the Android app 'Aftershock' and it
    works without any problems.

    The 'Aftershock' has a problem with Cyrillic in the subject of the letter :(

    What doesn't bother me personally and if no other app works, there is no alternative.

    regards, Dieter
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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Rinat H. Sadretdinow on Tue Jul 13 23:59:32 2021
    Rinat H. Sadretdinow:

    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12
    running Android 11? As I know Hotdoged requires the FTN
    Provider to be autostarted, but how this is possible to
    autostart it in Samsung Galaxy A12?

    As you wrote in ru.ftn.develop, Android 11 is growing para-
    noid, at least on Samsung smartphones. You solved the prob-
    lem by turning off *all* energy-saving settings and adding
    the provider(s) to the list of non-sleeping applications. I
    hope that it helps others and that the author reconsiders
    the modular design of HotDogEd in light of how difficult it
    may be to set the program to work correctly.

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  • From Rinat H. Sadretdinow@2:5020/620 to Anton Shepelev on Thu Jul 15 15:12:28 2021
    Hello Anton!

    13 Jul 21 23:59, you wrote to me:

    Rinat H. Sadretdinow:

    Is there any way to run Hotdoged on Samsung Galaxy A12 running
    Android 11? As I know Hotdoged requires the FTN Provider to
    be autostarted, but how this is possible to autostart it
    in Samsung Galaxy A12?

    As you wrote in ru.ftn.develop, Android 11 is growing paranoid, at
    least on Samsung smartphones. You solved the problem by
    turning off *all* energy-saving settings and adding the
    provider(s) to the list of non-sleeping applications. I hope that
    it helps others

    Hope so.

    and that the author reconsiders the modular design of HotDogEd in
    light of how difficult it may be to set the program to work correctly.

    I think it is unlikely that the author will bother with this. "It works for me!" -- the GNU principle. And GNU principle says: "Do you want another way? Do it yourself!"

    HotdogEd is not a commercial program and the author will not bother to correct that certain users wish, he is not financially interested in this. And this is the main trouble with any non-proprietary projects I guess.

    Bye!
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  • From Alexander Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Rinat H. Sadretdinow on Thu Jul 15 17:55:50 2021
    Good ${greeting_time}, Rinat!

    15 21 15:12, you wrote to Anton Shepelev:

    HotdogEd is not a commercial program and the author will not bother to correct that certain users wish, he is not financially interested in
    this. And this is the main trouble with any non-proprietary projects I guess.

    proprietary != commercial. You better learn =)

    And main problem lack of any corrections in the hotdog - the loss author's interest in the project (i don't know, hmuch to Java, but Sergey wrote on Kotlin in our last meet).

    With best regards, Alexander.
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  • From Rinat H. Sadretdinow@2:5020/620 to Alexander Kruglikov on Thu Jul 15 17:29:06 2021
    Hello Alexander!

    15 Jul 21 17:55, you wrote to me:

    HotdogEd is not a commercial program and the author will not
    bother to correct that certain users wish, he is not financially
    interested in this. And this is the main trouble with any
    non-proprietary projects I guess.

    proprietary != commercial. You better learn =)

    I know.

    And main problem lack of any corrections in the hotdog - the loss
    author's interest in the project (i don't know, hmuch to Java, but
    Sergey wrote on Kotlin in our last meet).

    It depends only and only on Sergey opinion, I think. He is the author and only his desire to correct something or leave it as it is for now.

    Bye!
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