• Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive"

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    In message <1akbd8h1msaecfdnh6lqgqs4o4iajpklv3@4ax.com>, "Ken Blake,
    MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> writes:
    On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:18:42 -0500, QuestionQuigley
    <doregan@verizon.net> wrote:


    It seems each version of Windows and MS Office has a new look and feel


    I don't agree at all. Sometimes the changes *are* major, but other
    times they are much more minor. It's certainly not "each version" that
    has " a new look and feel."

    For example, there is very little change in the interface between
    Windows XP and Vista, or between Microsoft Office 2000 and 2003. And

    Agreed. But the change to Office 2007 and 2010 brought in the "ribbon",
    which most people seem to either love or hate (i. e. few are not
    bothered). [FWIW, I don't particularly like it, but don't hate it,
    provided I can slide it out of the way to get my screen space back,
    which I believe can be done.]

    even Windows 8, which many people think has a giant interface change
    from Windows 7 is very different only if you want it to be. It's not
    *just* the modern/metro interface; the old desktop interface is still
    there and easy to switch to if you want to use it. I use Windows 8,
    and use the old desktop interface almost exclusively; if you looked at
    and used my computer. you'd have a hard time realizing that it was
    Windows 8, not Windows 7.



    that causes many users to get lost. It is one thing to improve
    functionality, speed, and reliability, but it seems pointless to create
    new layouts and menus that result in users getting lost.


    But I agree with you here. Sometimes Microsoft makes changes that are
    not better or worse than what used to be, and seem to be done just to
    make it different. But that's not very different from what
    manufacturers of other products--for example automobiles--do.

    (-:

    (Sometimes there must indeed be an element of just making it look new,
    but also sometimes it's a way of trying things genuinely new - some of
    which work, some of which don't, and no amount of trialling will really
    tell you which.)

    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP
    --
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    No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank you.
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    How much does a multi touch screen for a desktop system cost?

    If I'm going to buy W8 to run on one of my machines,
    will any of the free third party DVD players run
    on the basic version of W8?

    What's added to the "Professional" version of W8?

    Is there an Ultimate version of W8?

    Is that compatability stuff to run old software
    built into all versions of W8, or only certain versions?

    I can't even buy a "clean boot" RETAIL version of W8
    where the license is transferrable?

    Microsoft actually has service centers where for $99
    they will remove crapware and make you
    a clean boot of W8?

    When does Microsoft plan to pull the plug
    on W7 and stop the SECURITY UPDATES
    just to force those users to buy Windows 9?

    Has it occurred to anybody that this model
    where each Microsoft OS has really bad
    SECURITY FLAWS actually benefits Microsoft?

    What would happen to user DEPENDENCY
    on Microsoft if they made a version of Windows
    WITHOUT huge security flaws, without the
    need for 200+ SECURITY UPDATES?

    Aren't we all just like JUNKIES hooked and
    dependent on Microsoft for SECURITY UPDATES?
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    Newsgroups: alt.windows-xp,alt.os.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment,mi crosoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive"
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    On 12/23/2012 7:10 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    In message <kb4vgl$tpj$1@dont-email.me>, knuttle

    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    I am not against new things in the operating system. In fact I was
    using
    OS/2 when most people were extolling the virtue of the first version of
    Windows. Why because it was far superior to Windows.

    In your opinion. (Which Windows are you talking about - 3.1 [or even earlier], or the '9x series [95/98/Me]?)

    I gladly upgraded to XP as it was based on part of the code that made
    OS/2 far superior and stable.

    So you accepted the new when it meant it wasn't new to you (-:.

    I have worked with FORTRAN, COBOL, BASIC, DOS, WINDOWS and OS/2
    My first programmable device was a TI-59 calculator. My first computer
    was a TI-99/4a, my next was an Apple II? (1983). The first PC operating system I used was DOS. I then got the first Window OS when it replaced
    DOS 6. After using it for a period I bought OS/2 and installed it.

    I definitely am not afraid of new things.

    While you are criticizing me for what I said, you never answered the
    ergonomic problems I have with Windows 8
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    knuttle wrote:

    On 12/23/2012 7:10 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    In message <kb4vgl$tpj$1@dont-email.me>, knuttle

    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    I am not against new things in the operating system. In fact I was
    using
    OS/2 when most people were extolling the virtue of the first version of
    Windows. Why because it was far superior to Windows.

    In your opinion. (Which Windows are you talking about - 3.1 [or even
    earlier], or the '9x series [95/98/Me]?)

    "First version" isn't something I'd normally consider up for debate... but then, "the first version of Windows" (i.e. Windows 1.0) predates OS/2 by a couple of years. (If you were truly using OS/2 when Windows 1.0 came out, I'd like to borrow your time machine.) As for "extolling the virtue" of Win1, let me qoute Wikipedia (The Web's Largest Source of Disinformation[tm]):

    "[...] when finally released, Windows 1.0 aroused little interest."

    (*I* didn't even hear of Windows until around 1989-ish.)

    Also, the first version of OS/2 was essentially "DOS plus"; no GUI provided until OS/2 1.1, a year and a half after OS/2 1.0, and nearly half a year
    after the release of Windows 2.1. Until then, any comparison between OS/2 & Windows would've been apples and oranges.

    I gladly upgraded to XP as it was based on part of the code that made
    OS/2 far superior and stable.

    I'm a bit curious about this. If you upgraded to XP (from what, may I ask?) for that reason, did you switch to NT3.1 when it first came out? It was the first Windows system based on the OS/2 codebase.

    So you accepted the new when it meant it wasn't new to you (-:.

    I have worked with FORTRAN, COBOL, BASIC, DOS, WINDOWS and OS/2

    Oh god. COBOL. I'm so sorry.

    My first programmable device was a TI-59 calculator. My first computer
    was a TI-99/4a, my next was an Apple II? (1983). The first PC operating system I used was DOS. I then got the first Window OS when it replaced
    DOS 6. After using it for a period I bought OS/2 and installed it.

    The first actual Windows OS was NT3. Win16 and the 9x line were just shells
    on top of DOS. Just sayin'.

    --
    Excuse me while I change into something more formidable.
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    On 12/23/2012 9:54 AM, Auric__ wrote:



    The first actual Windows OS was NT3. Win16 and the 9x line were just shells on top of DOS. Just sayin'.

    Still no response to the ergonomic problems of Window 8
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    knuttle wrote:
    On 12/23/2012 9:54 AM, Auric__ wrote:



    The first actual Windows OS was NT3. Win16 and the 9x line were just
    shells
    on top of DOS. Just sayin'.

    Still no response to the ergonomic problems of Window 8

    http://www.7tutorials.com/how-boot-desktop-windows-8-skip-start-screen

    I've not tried these solutions, though, as I don't run Windows 8, and
    can't @rsed to pay fifty quid to try it out.
    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.
    XP on this machine, 7 on another.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    knuttle wrote:

    On 12/23/2012 9:54 AM, Auric__ wrote:

    The first actual Windows OS was NT3. Win16 and the 9x line were just
    shells on top of DOS. Just sayin'.

    Still no response to the ergonomic problems of Window 8

    I haven't used it yet so I can't give any first-hand answers.

    --
    - Your boss is a sick fuck, Mal.
    - I know.
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    Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com> wrote:
    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? WTF?

    That's proof that newer version isn't always better.

    ROFL Look at the comments from UPGRADE purchasers!

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416562

    Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Upgrade $ 69.99

    What'd you get from easter egg? Windows 8!

    At least Microsoft fired the culprit

    In this case, they fired the wrong person.
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    I walked into one of the big box stores with a dozen
    different laptops on display and every blasted one
    was being sold with Windows 8.

    It looks like Microsoft has already started leaning on
    every OEM to STOP bundling Win 7 with their hardware
    and bundle Win8 with their systems instead, even
    on the slow cheap notebook computers and systems
    without multi-touch screens to do the pinch minimize etc.

    The MS Life Cycle page says availability is "To be determined" for
    Win7.
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    On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:56:53 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 12/23/2012 7:10 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    In message <kb4vgl$tpj$1@dont-email.me>, knuttle

    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    I am not against new things in the operating system. In fact I was
    using
    OS/2 when most people were extolling the virtue of the first version of
    Windows. Why because it was far superior to Windows.

    In your opinion. (Which Windows are you talking about - 3.1 [or even
    earlier], or the '9x series [95/98/Me]?)

    I gladly upgraded to XP as it was based on part of the code that made
    OS/2 far superior and stable.

    So you accepted the new when it meant it wasn't new to you (-:.

    I have worked with FORTRAN, COBOL, BASIC, DOS, WINDOWS and OS/2
    My first programmable device was a TI-59 calculator. My first computer
    was a TI-99/4a, my next was an Apple II? (1983). The first PC operating >system I used was DOS. I then got the first Window OS when it replaced
    DOS 6. After using it for a period I bought OS/2 and installed it.

    I definitely am not afraid of new things.

    While you are criticizing me for what I said, you never answered the >ergonomic problems I have with Windows 8

    I answered your question, but you didn't like it.
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    On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:52:05 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 12/22/2012 10:17 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:54:56 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    I am not against new things in the operating system. In fact I was using >>> OS/2 when most people were extolling the virtue of the first version of
    Windows. Why because it was far superior to Windows.

    I gladly upgraded to XP as it was based on part of the code that made
    OS/2 far superior and stable.

    However, why should I get excited about upgrading to a system that
    assumes I am using a touch screen on my computer?

    That explains a lot about your attitude. You seem to have completely
    ignored the multiple mentions of being able to avoid the modern UI and
    using a standard desktop.


    Blinded by your opinion, you missed the hole point of what I wrote

    I was specifically responding to your final paragraph and only left
    the rest in for context. If your "hole point" (sic) wasn't captured by
    that paragraph, then I indeed missed it.

    In case I need to spell it out, Win 8 *doesn't* assume that you're
    using a touch screen, at least not in the way that I think you mean
    it.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a écrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? WTF?

    Try VLC Media Player. It's free and GPL.

    --
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    We should create misc.phone.mobile.android newsgroup....
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    On 12/30/2012 6:51 AM PT, Evgenii Sputnik typed:

    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a écrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? WTF?

    Or get it MC for free within a time period: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/window-on-windows/get-the-windows-8-media-cent er-pack-for-free-but-be-prepared-to-wait/6928
    --
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    troll or beast spell-enslaved, ran hither and thither mindless; and some
    slew themselves, or cast themselves in pits, or fled wailing back to
    hide in holes and dark lightless places far from hope." --The Return of
    the King (book)
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    On 12/30/2012 10:28 AM, Ant wrote:
    On 12/30/2012 6:51 AM PT, Evgenii Sputnik typed:

    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a écrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? WTF?

    Or get it MC for free within a time period:

    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/window-on-windows/get-the-windows-8-media-cent er-pack-for-free-but-be-prepared-to-wait/6928

    Will other media players like Real Player and the Apple media player
    work on Windows 8. They both are free.
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    On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:24:49 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 12/30/2012 10:28 AM, Ant wrote:
    On 12/30/2012 6:51 AM PT, Evgenii Sputnik typed:

    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a écrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? WTF?

    Or get it MC for free within a time period:
    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/window-on-windows/get-the-windows-8-media-cent er-pack-for-free-but-be-prepared-to-wait/6928

    Will other media players like Real Player and the Apple media player
    work on Windows 8. They both are free.

    I'd be surprised to learn that anyone still uses either of those. I
    thought usage had dropped to nearly zero about 10-12 years ago.
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    On 12/30/2012 12:24 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 12/30/2012 10:28 AM, Ant wrote:
    On 12/30/2012 6:51 AM PT, Evgenii Sputnik typed:

    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a écrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? WTF?

    Or get it MC for free within a time period:
    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/window-on-windows/get-the-windows-8-media-cent er-pack-for-free-but-be-prepared-to-wait/6928


    Will other media players like Real Player and the Apple media player
    work on Windows 8. They both are free.

    Are you talking about iTunes? If so then yes iTunes works on Windows 8
    just fine.
    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 8
    Thunderbird 17.0
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    On Dec 30 2012, 8:51 am, Evgenii Sputnik <elsputni...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a écrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition??   WTF?

    Try VLC Media Player. It's free and GPL.

    I've been using it for years and like it very much.

    It's not crippled by something left out of W8?
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