• Request

    From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Atreyu on Fri Jul 2 19:46:01 2021
    How difficult would it be to add a function that allows the modem to be initialized on a fequency?

    ie: Initialize modem every [01] Minutes
    will be helpfull for those using rlfossil.


    holding on to hope that I just missed the setting or commandline arument.
    also hoping the new modem will not need said feature.

    -lux
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Fri Jul 2 20:30:53 2021
    How difficult would it be to add a function that allows the modem to be initialized on a fequency?

    ie: Initialize modem every [01] Minutes
    will be helpfull for those using rlfossil.

    Nevermind I found Auto Init was off and skipping over it guess because of the computer loading when it gets to the setting above it.

    Can change the User manual from Serial redirection over TCP/IP is not supported.

    to

    Serial redirection over TCP/IP is not supported. . Entirely

    Next step is adding in dialup support using desqview. Wish me luck :D
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Fri Jul 2 23:37:21 2021
    On 2 Jul 21 19:46, Jesse C---- said the following to Atreyu:

    How difficult would it be to add a function that allows the modem to be initialized on a fequency?

    Eh? Its already there. Config-Comm/Modem-Auto Initialization.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Fri Jul 2 23:46:14 2021
    On 2 Jul 21 20:30, Jesse C---- said the following to Jesse C----:

    Can change the User manual from Serial redirection over TCP/IP is not supported.

    I think I explained it clearly in the Readme file.

    D'Bridge modem support is specifically designed to work with real actual modems... not weird emulated stuff.

    I don't understand why you're messing around with virtualized modems and emulator stuff when Fido mail is predominately exchanged via. BinkD which is integrated nicely with the mailer. Not many systems exchange mail via. dialup anymore.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 6 21:59:26 2021
    I think I explained it clearly in the Readme file.

    Yep it is.

    I don't understand why you're messing around with virtualized modems and emulator stuff when Fido mail is predominately exchanged via. BinkD which i integrated nicely with the mailer. Not many systems exchange mail via. dial anymore.

    Actually im not using Dbridge for all intended purposes.
    Its simply acting as a Bridge does a few cool things at the same time.
    One: scheduler is awesome way better then Iniquity
    Two: modem can be initialized every five minutes Iniquity will do it once in a unknown while.
    Three: keeps Iniquity closed until its needed.
    and lastly looks way cooler then Iniquity's WFC screen ;)

    Also: KatGuard is an awesome feature.
    Also: Log is great
    Also: Customized the colors to Iniquity theame.
    & FLIPPING DOS STARFIELD SIMULATION SCREENSAVER!!

    This is the only way to run a bare metal dos 5.0 board.

    -lux
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Tue Jul 6 23:14:24 2021
    On 6 Jul 21 21:59, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    I don't understand why you're messing around with virtualized modems and emulator stuff when Fido mail is predominately exchanged via. BinkD which i integrated nicely with the mailer. Not many systems exchange mail via. dial anymore.

    Actually im not using Dbridge for all intended purposes.
    Its simply acting as a Bridge does a few cool things at the same time.

    Just a few cool things? 8-)

    This is the only way to run a bare metal dos 5.0 board.

    What specs? Why the desire to go bare metal... other than you're a masochist?

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 6 23:30:47 2021
    Just a few cool things? 8-)

    OK it ROCKS!

    What specs? Why the desire to go bare metal... other than you're a masochis

    running on an Ebay IBM PS/1 486-40 MB with 8megs ram (included in auction)
    has a 512M SSD CF ISA Card and a 3com 509? guess thats right.
    The riser card came from Russia (thought that was cool).
    Got the case from ebay too its a PS/Value case (so I can use a normal floppy)

    I wanted bare metal... um.. oh because Dbridge!

    Also: STARFIELD SIMULATION SCREEN SAVER!!
    Also: pretty sure the 486-40 would have a tough time with windows. 3.0 might work but thats not even a real multitasker.

    The original plan was to use a PS/2 model 30 (286-10) on OS/2 but yeah im not that much into pain. Plus screw that Dallas Clock Chip & the price would tripple.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/eOACVHb
    https://imgur.com/a/SmLbeT4

    (some images of the project)
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Tue Jul 6 23:53:10 2021
    On 6 Jul 21 23:30, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    running on an Ebay IBM PS/1 486-40 MB with 8megs ram (included in auction) has a 512M SSD CF ISA Card and a 3com 509? guess thats right.
    The riser card came from Russia (thought that was cool).
    Got the case from ebay too its a PS/Value case (so I can use a normal flopp

    I can't remember if you wrote back if you were able to load a lot of that DOS stuff into high-memory or EMS... as in, allocate some EMS pages with EMM386
    and SET DBOVREMS=Y.

    Also: pretty sure the 486-40 would have a tough time with windows. 3.0 mig work but thats not even a real multitasker.

    Windows 3.1 or 3.11 for Workgroups (I forget)... should be better than 3.0.

    Windows NT 3.5 or 4.0 should run in 8 megs of memory...

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Jesse C---- on Wed Jul 7 10:48:00 2021
    & FLIPPING DOS STARFIELD SIMULATION SCREENSAVER!!

    Cool uh ... :-)

    This is the only way to run a bare metal dos 5.0 board.

    It is.

    I switched to D'Bridge from Binkley in ... pffttt ... 1988 I think and it was love at first sight. Dropped Binkley instantly with all due respect to Hartman and Periello, both were here at my place and are cool guys.

    I was laughed at many times, especially by the JoHo-groupies. They are gone. So is JoHo. He came back a short time as an independant node but Frontdoor didn't materialize as IP-capable, D'Bridge did.

    As said before, it's being maintained by someone who's very approachable and is a nice guy, even if his wording sometimes is direct ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jun 14 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Wed Jul 7 13:36:06 2021
    & FLIPPING DOS STARFIELD SIMULATION SCREENSAVER!!

    Cool uh ... :-)

    YES

    love at first sight. Dropped Binkley instantly with all due respect to Hart and Periello, both were here at my place and are cool guys.

    Understood I could be hosting this thing from a Win10/32 machine using Synchronet as usual and its no disrespect to Rob Swindel or anything but this is just WAY cooler. In fact I use Synchronet to power my RG board over at the VPS and swear up and down by it.

    As said before, it's being maintained by someone who's very approachable an is a nice guy, even if his wording sometimes is direct ...

    Well Nick has been helpful in configuring this thing. Has also helped in the past with setting up stuff over at the RG board. Still needs to finish helping with the Fido setup :D but that stuff is still on there likely mostly configured just a matter of revisiting it after years and years.
    can't blame him thats just one of those InternetRex deals.
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Wed Jul 7 13:43:24 2021
    Am releasing another update shortly.

    Well if you get around to it don't forget to maybe have an option to ignore that Carrier Detect until the modem has time to Init.

    or some sort of external utility to init the modem then exit prior to
    loading up DB as sending the signal direct to the comport doesn't work
    without the FOSSIL magic.


    Cheers
    -lux
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Wed Jul 7 14:55:55 2021
    On 7 Jul 21 13:43, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    @MSGID: 1:229/426 EB0476E6
    @REPLY: 1:229/426 1800F0E1
    @TZUTC: -0500
    Am releasing another update shortly.

    Well if you get around to it don't forget to maybe have an option to ignore that Carrier Detect until the modem has time to Init.

    Fixed. See the release notes.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Wed Jul 7 14:56:50 2021
    On 7 Jul 21 13:36, Jesse C---- said the following to Ward Dossche:

    Well Nick has been helpful in configuring this thing. Has also helped in th past with setting up stuff over at the RG board. Still needs to finish help with the Fido setup :D but that stuff is still on there likely mostly configured just a matter of revisiting it after years and years.
    can't blame him thats just one of those InternetRex deals.

    Let me know when you're ready for a node number.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Petros Argyrakis@2:410/9 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jul 9 11:32:47 2021
    I was laughed at many times, especially by the JoHo-groupies. They are gone. So is JoHo. He came back a short time as an independant node but Frontdoor didn't materialize as IP-capable, D'Bridge did.

    As said before, it's being maintained by someone who's very approachable and is a nice guy, even if his wording sometimes is direct ...

    I started with Binkley on an Atari STe (no HDD everything was loaded on RAM drive from a floppy) and a 2400bps w/o MNP Hyundai modem.
    After almost a year of mocking from the other Fido members I strayed and purchased a 386DX/40 with 200Mb HDD. Needless to say that the HDD was faster the the RAM drive. I used FD Multiline paid version (smuggled some Deutsch Marks in envelope to someone in Austria if I recall correctly).


    Now I think we all owe Nick a case of Belgian beers...:)

    Next time in Europe Nick give us a heads up

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: VM/SP (2:410/9)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Petros Argyrakis on Sat Jul 10 08:19:47 2021
    I started with Binkley on an Atari STe (no HDD everything was loaded on
    RAM drive from a floppy) and a 2400bps w/o MNP Hyundai modem.

    What? No accoustic coupler? ??

    I still have mine ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Sat Jul 10 02:24:43 2021
    Well if you get around to it don't forget to maybe have an option to ignore that Carrier Detect until the modem has time to Init.

    Fixed. See the release notes.

    Hmm, maybe the question should be is there any feature that doesn't
    already exist or is added before its even asked?

    Hats off to the Author!
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Petros Argyrakis on Sat Jul 10 02:28:19 2021
    Now I think we all owe Nick a case of Belgian beers...:)

    Agreed
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jul 10 02:42:23 2021
    What? No accoustic coupler? ??

    Dude im gonna poll, ill be on originate mode set yours to answer.
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Jesse C---- on Sat Jul 10 10:18:40 2021
    Hmm, maybe the question should be is there any feature that doesn't
    already exist or is added before its even asked?

    It is still a workaround to get the coffee-machine started in the morning ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Jesse C---- on Sat Jul 10 10:19:23 2021
    Now I think we all owe Nick a case of Belgian beers...:)

    Agreed

    Well, I can help with the drinking ... geographically well placed for that ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Jesse C---- on Sat Jul 10 10:20:20 2021
    What? No accoustic coupler? ??

    Dude im gonna poll, ill be on originate mode set yours to answer.

    The network doesn't support it here anymore. PSTN-modems are a thing of the past here...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Aaron Grasswell@1:229/428 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jul 10 09:15:00 2021
    Ditto :)

    Aaron/DW
    Dark Systems BBS


    Now I think we all owe Nick a case of Belgian beers...:)
    Agreed

    Well, I can help with the drinking ... geographically well placed for
    that ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed
    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: Dark Systems BBS (1:229/428)
  • From Jesse Cussins@1:129/305 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jul 10 13:16:57 2021
    The network doesn't support it here anymore. PSTN-modems are a thing of th past here...

    Sad.
    Maybe we can transfer packets with my laser pen using morse code.

    ... Took an hour to bury the cat. The silly thing kept movin'
    --- Renegade v1.25/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (1:129/305)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Aaron Grasswell on Sat Jul 10 20:45:03 2021
    Ditto :)

    Now I think we all owe Nick a case of Belgian beers...:)
    Agreed

    Well, I can help with the drinking ... geographically well placed for that ...

    Belgian beer? In the kingdom of Canuckia?

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Sun Jul 11 00:38:03 2021
    On 10 Jul 21 10:20:20, Ward Dossche said the following to Jesse C----:

    Dude im gonna poll, ill be on originate mode set yours to answer.

    The network doesn't support it here anymore. PSTN-modems are a thing of the past here...

    I have a silly caller from outside Toronto that calls here every day using a dialup modem on an old Thinkpad laptop.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Sun Jul 11 00:38:46 2021
    On 10 Jul 21 02:24, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    Hmm, maybe the question should be is there any feature that doesn't already exist or is added before its even asked?

    Shhhhh... it will spoil the surprise for the "port D'B to Linux" crowd.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Petros Argyrakis on Sun Jul 11 00:40:10 2021
    On 09 Jul 21 11:32:47, Petros Argyrakis said the following to Ward Dossche:

    I started with Binkley on an Atari STe (no HDD everything was loaded on RAM drive from a floppy) and a 2400bps w/o MNP Hyundai modem.

    The Tandy 1000 was my first "real DOS" computer... DOS 3.3 on floppy with no hard drive until I spent an entire summer working chores to afford the 20 megabyte ESDI upgrade.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Sun Jul 11 14:24:45 2021
    Hmm, maybe the question should be is there any feature that doesn't already exist or is added before its even asked?

    Shhhhh... it will spoil the surprise for the "port D'B to Linux" crowd.

    That sounds like a ton of work.

    Somehow im picturing a menu option under utilites again "port D'B to Linux"
    and when you hit it it asks you are you sure? you hit yes and it reboots your crappy windows box into linux and compiles DB in then after exporting all
    your windows settings and somehow implementing them back onto linux perfectly has a final note that then drops you to /home/usr/db4l and reports ok done hit DB to run DB.

    Eureka!

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Sun Jul 11 14:33:18 2021
    On 11 Jul 21 14:24, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    Shhhhh... it will spoil the surprise for the "port D'B to Linux" crowd.

    That sounds like a ton of work.

    Its been started but its the database code that is holding everything up and will likely require a serious rewrite to make it work on Linux. That code controls the Queue, the nodelist compiler and part of the scheduler.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Mon Jul 12 02:04:30 2021
    Its been started but its the database code that is holding everything up an will likely require a serious rewrite to make it work on Linux. That code controls the Queue, the nodelist compiler and part of the scheduler.

    Well if you need any help with anything simple enough let me know.
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Mon Jul 12 04:06:14 2021
    On 12 Jul 21 02:04, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    Its been started but its the database code that is holding everything up an will likely require a serious rewrite to make it work on Linux. That code controls the Queue, the nodelist compiler and part of the scheduler.

    Well if you need any help with anything simple enough let me know.

    TurboPower's B-tree ISAM library needs work...

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Mark Da Silva@1:229/550 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 13 20:13:48 2021
    Shhhhh... it will spoil the surprise for the "port D'B to Linux" crowd.

    Now you're teasing us...

    Mark

    ... Now that I am dead, I'm finally making a living.
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/20 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: P.O.N.R. BBS (1:229/550)
  • From Aaron Grasswell@1:229/428 to Mark Da Silva on Tue Jul 13 21:16:00 2021
    Feel free to tease the green eggs and JAM crowd... :D

    Aaron/DW


    Shhhhh... it will spoil the surprise for the "port D'B to Linux"
    crowd.

    Now you're teasing us...

    Mark

    ... Now that I am dead, I'm finally making a living.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/20 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: P.O.N.R. BBS (1:229/550)
    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: Dark Systems BBS (1:229/428)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Mark Da Silva on Wed Jul 14 05:50:53 2021
    Shhhhh... it will spoil the surprise for the "port D'B to Linux"
    crowd.

    Now you're teasing us...

    Not me ... my D'Bridge membership card is #0001 ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 12 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Wed Jul 14 21:52:13 2021
    Well if you need any help with anything simple enough let me know.

    TurboPower's B-tree ISAM library needs work...

    Thats the easyest of it huh?
    8/
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jesse C---- on Wed Jul 14 22:22:20 2021
    On 14 Jul 21 21:52, Jesse C---- said the following to Nick Andre:

    Well if you need any help with anything simple enough let me know.

    TurboPower's B-tree ISAM library needs work...

    Thats the easyest of it huh?

    Actually more like the most challenging. Everything else is gravy compared to getting that code working.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Jesse C----@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Fri Jul 16 00:34:53 2021
    Thats the easyest of it huh?

    Actually more like the most challenging. Everything else is gravy compared getting that code working.

    Yeah googled what it would take to begin with it and it seems very complex.
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)