• Hydro went off - again

    From August Abolins@2:460/58 to All on Sun Nov 22 17:49:11 2020
    Hydro went off - again.

    But this time there is no bad weather. There is actually a promise of up to 15cms of snow later on today. It's only -2C now. Tomorrow it is to be a high of +1C.

    Hydro went out at 7am. It is now almost 10am. Would be nice to have some hot water. Cold coffee is getting old, fast. Power *is* present at my shop. I have to be there today anyway. On we go.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 22 11:33:00 2020
    August Abolins wrote to All <=-

    Hydro went out at 7am. It is now almost 10am. Would be nice to have
    some hot water.

    By "Hydro", do you mean the water supply or just hot water?

    If you've got fresh snowfall coming and a camp stove, you could make
    it work. Where there's a will, there's a way. :)

    Cold coffee is getting old, fast. Power *is* present at
    my shop. I have to be there today anyway. On we go.

    At least you've got a place to charge and make coffee, then.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Nov 22 16:49:00 2020
    Hello Kurt!

    ** On Sunday 22.11.20 - 11:33, Kurt Weiske wrote to August Abolins:

    Hydro went out at 7am. It is now almost 10am. Would be nice to have
    some hot water.

    By "Hydro", do you mean the water supply or just hot water?

    Hydro is the short-form we use to mean hyro electric power.
    The main company that produces and oversees distribution is
    called Hydro Canada. They are also involved in the various
    nuclear powered facilities all over the country, but we still
    refer to the lack of electric power as "no hydro".


    If you've got fresh snowfall coming and a camp stove, you could make
    it work. Where there's a will, there's a way. :)

    How would fresh snowfall help - oh, you mean drinking water?

    I have a home wood stove. Carmor(tm). Top-loading.


    Cold coffee is getting old, fast. Power *is* present at
    my shop. I have to be there today anyway. On we go.

    At least you've got a place to charge and make coffee, then.

    I did indeed. But I didn't stick around very long. The
    downtown was quite dead - only traffic zipping through. Nobody
    was interested in shopping much today. So, I came home after
    3 hours.

    Turns out that the outtage was actually a planned outtage -
    that I forgot about. They announced it 2 weeks ago. I can't
    rememeber a piddly little detail like that after two weeks!

    I remembered that detail just before I left the house. But
    before I did that, I took the opportunity of the power outtage
    and daylight to replace a thermostat-switch that wasn't
    working. The whole house is equipped with the same model. So,
    I swapped out a good one from a room I don't use, and always
    kept handy when I could motivate myself to take off the broken
    one.

    This is what I was replacing:

    http://pics.rsh.ru/img/thermostat-switch_6s43dvjt.jpg

    The highest I could turn the broken one was to the 10 o-clock
    position. I lived with that seized/broken one for 3 winters.
    Not bad. Coldest it ever got was 11C in my main living area.

    I still have same heating (base-boards) in the lower part of
    the house. Those I could crank up higher on the coldest days
    to compensate. The heat would flow upwards through the large
    open stairwell.

    My main living room (I've closed off most of the other rooms)
    is now nearly at 17C from a previous low of 12C this morning.
    Good enough. The hydro was off only 5.5 hours this morning.

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  • From Bryan Handfield@1:129/165 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 22 15:15:00 2020
    -=[ On 11-22-20 17:49, August Abolins wrote to All below: ]=-
    -=[ Re: Hydro went off - again ]=-

    Hi August Abolins!

    Hydro went off - again.
    Sorry to hear that. I hope that you are safe where you are?


    Cheers,
    Bryan
    bhandfield(at)me(dot)com

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Bryan Handfield on Mon Nov 30 08:18:00 2020
    Hello Bryan!

    ** On Sunday 22.11.20 - 15:15, Bryan Handfield wrote to August Abolins:

    Hydro went off - again.
    Sorry to hear that. I hope that you are safe where you are?

    It lasted about 24 hours. Other regions had it worse (up to 3
    or 4 days without electric power). A few people operate
    generators.

    A neighbour about 1km away offered some dry wood for my stove.
    Meanwhile, I scrounged up a few pieces of wood from my
    property as well - for next time.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Mon Nov 30 15:55:00 2020
    Hydro went off - again.
    Sorry to hear that. I hope that you are safe where you are?

    It lasted about 24 hours. Other regions had it worse (up to 3
    or 4 days without electric power). A few people operate
    generators.

    LOL, I read that as "water" not "hydroelectric." Would not want to be
    without the former for long but, now that Winter is upon us, being without
    the electric is more worrisome.

    Mike


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Mike Powell on Thu Dec 3 18:47:00 2020
    Hello Mike!

    ** On Monday 30.11.20 - 15:55, Mike Powell wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    It lasted about 24 hours. Other regions had it worse (up
    to 3 or 4 days without electric power). A few people
    operate generators.

    LOL, I read that as "water" not "hydroelectric." Would
    not want to be without the former for long but, now that
    Winter is upon us, being without the electric is more
    worrisome.

    "Hydro" is part of the name of the Canada-wide service company
    that manages the electric (and nuclear) power facilities.
    Canadians are used to using the term "hydro" when we refer to
    the electricity services to our homes.

    A few days without water is not a disaster for me. I have
    plenty in single bottles and some larger containers for times
    when everything shuts down.
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Sun Dec 6 10:43:00 2020
    12-03-20 18:47 August Abolins wrote to Mike Powell about Hydro went off - again Howdy! August and Mike,

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    Hello Mike!

    ** On Monday 30.11.20 - 15:55, Mike Powell wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    It lasted about 24 hours. Other regions had it worse (up
    to 3 or 4 days without electric power). A few people
    operate generators.

    LOL, I read that as "water" not "hydroelectric." Would
    not want to be without the former for long but, now that
    Winter is upon us, being without the electric is more
    worrisome.

    "Hydro" is part of the name of the Canada-wide service company
    that manages the electric (and nuclear) power facilities.
    Canadians are used to using the term "hydro" when we refer to
    the electricity services to our homes.

    Down the road from the Lock and Dam I worked at was a Hydroelectric Plant.

    It was owned by Louisville Gas and Electric Company (Kentucky).
    There were 8 Turbines (Units) in the building.
    It was the only Hydro Plant in the area, all of the other Generating Stations burnt Coal to run their Generators.

    I was at work one day when a towboat locked through carrying a Hydro Unit
    that was built in France that would be installed in Vanceburg, Kentucky.
    It was a HUGE Unit, and that one unit probably would produce more electricty than the eight units in the nearby Hydro Plant could.

    Just thought I'd jump in and make a comment.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Ed Vance on Sun Dec 6 08:36:21 2020

    Down the road from the Lock and Dam I worked at was a Hydroelectric Plant.

    [snip]

    I was at work one day when a towboat locked through carrying a Hydro Unit that was built in France that would be installed in Vanceburg, Kentucky.
    It was a HUGE Unit, and that one unit probably would produce more electricty than the eight units in the nearby Hydro Plant could.

    Just thought I'd jump in and make a comment.

    My town has an old water "mill" that has been tried to be converted to a proper hydro-producing source. Not enough gov't/private monies could sustain the project. It was eventually scrapped. Sad, really. It could have been a tourist draw if branded well.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Sun Dec 6 11:09:00 2020
    Down the road from the Lock and Dam I worked at was a Hydroelectric Plant.

    It was owned by Louisville Gas and Electric Company (Kentucky).
    There were 8 Turbines (Units) in the building.
    It was the only Hydro Plant in the area, all of the other Generating Stations burnt Coal to run their Generators.

    I visited there when I was a kid as part of some field trip, probably with
    the Cub Scouts. It was interesting to a young child! :)

    Mike


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Tue Dec 8 21:34:00 2020
    12-06-20 11:09 Mike Powell wrote to ED VANCE about Hydro went off - again Howdy! Mike,

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    Down the road from the Lock and Dam I worked at was a Hydroelectric Plant.

    It was owned by Louisville Gas and Electric Company (Kentucky).
    There were 8 Turbines (Units) in the building.
    It was the only Hydro Plant in the area, all of the other Generating
    tations
    burnt Coal to run their Generators.

    I visited there when I was a kid as part of some field trip, probably
    with the Cub Scouts. It was interesting to a young child! :)

    I suppose Your field trip included stopping by the Lock area too?

    1971 is when I began working there, and I left in 1996.

    If I was on Day Shift You might had seen Me riding a Golf Cart to get to the Lower End.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .



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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Tue Dec 8 21:50:00 2020
    12-06-20 08:36 August Abolins wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Hydro went off - agai Howdy! August,

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    Down the road from the Lock and Dam I worked at was a Hydroelectric Plant.

    [snip]

    I was at work one day when a towboat locked through carrying a Hydro Unit that was built in France that would be installed in Vanceburg, Kentucky.
    It was a HUGE Unit, and that one unit probably would produce more electricty than the eight units in the nearby Hydro Plant could.

    Just thought I'd jump in and make a comment.

    My town has an old water "mill" that has been tried to be converted to
    a proper hydro-producing source. Not enough gov't/private monies could sustain the project. It was eventually scrapped. Sad, really. It could have been a tourist draw if branded well.

    At one of Indiana's State Parks there is a Old Mill.
    Visitors can purchase bags of ground up Corn (Meal) or Wheat (Flour), I can't recall which grain they grind up at that Park..

    I'd think it would take a set of Gears to increase the Speed the Mill Wheel
    rotates at to turn a Generator so it would create 50 (60) Cycle/Second
    A.C. Voltage, as a Mill Wheel doesn't rotate very fast, maybe 3 full turns
    per Minute I'd guess.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Ed Vance on Wed Dec 9 08:14:00 2020
    Hello Ed!

    ** On Tuesday 08.12.20 - 21:50, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

    My town has an old water "mill" that has been tried to be converted to
    a proper hydro-producing source. Not enough gov't/private monies..

    I'd think it would take a set of Gears to increase the
    Speed the Mill Wheel rotates at to turn a Generator so
    it would create 50 (60) Cycle/Second A.C. Voltage, as a
    Mill Wheel doesn't rotate very fast, maybe 3 full turns
    per Minute I'd guess.

    Yes, that was all factored in. But they gave up when they
    calculated that the investment in the mods wouldn't pay back
    within a year. Something like that needs to be extrapolated
    to 5 or 10 years - especially if the majority of money is
    gov't handouts for "tourism".

    But.. at the same time, the building that housed the mill is
    next to a larger building (was probably a storage facility)
    that is now a set of apartments. Maybe the noise of a
    generator would be an issue - but I don't remember that being
    one of the concerns.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Ed Vance on Wed Dec 9 08:16:00 2020
    Hello Ed!

    ** On Tuesday 08.12.20 - 21:34, Ed Vance wrote to Mike Powell:

    If I was on Day Shift You might had seen Me riding a Golf
    Cart to get to the Lower End.

    Did you wave back at the on-lookers? ;)



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Wed Dec 9 13:12:00 2020
    I visited there when I was a kid as part of some field trip, probably with the Cub Scouts. It was interesting to a young child! :)

    I suppose Your field trip included stopping by the Lock area too?

    1971 is when I began working there, and I left in 1996.

    If I was on Day Shift You might had seen Me riding a Golf Cart to get to the Lower End.

    Ed,
    Yes it did! We watched at least one ship go through the locks. I would
    have been there sometime between 1977-1980, I think. You might have been
    one of the unfortunate souls who got their ears talked off by us. :)

    Mike


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ed Vance on Wed Dec 9 07:01:00 2020
    Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins <=-

    I'd think it would take a set of Gears to increase the Speed the Mill Wheel
    rotates at to turn a Generator so it would create 50 (60) Cycle/Second A.C. Voltage, as a Mill Wheel doesn't rotate very fast, maybe 3 full
    turns per Minute I'd guess.

    It could charge a battery, which would then be used to provide current
    into the grid. There are lots of applications where you use
    self-generated electricity during peak times.



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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Wed Dec 9 19:08:00 2020
    12-09-20 08:16 August Abolins wrote to Ed Vance about Hydro went off - again Howdy! August,

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    Hello Ed!

    ** On Tuesday 08.12.20 - 21:34, Ed Vance wrote to Mike Powell:

    If I was on Day Shift You might had seen Me riding a Golf
    Cart to get to the Lower End.

    Did you wave back at the on-lookers? ;)

    No, I had to keep my mind on driving straight up and down the Lockwall
    because the Lockwall was narrow and there were Guard Rails on each side I
    had to keep from hitting, and going in the Lock Chamber and landing on top
    of a Barge OR if I went through the other Guard Rail I would fall 15 Feet
    down on to Concrete. OUCH either way.

    In the winter, after some Snow had been removed from the Lockwall, the next
    day some of the wetness would freeze over and really make driving VERY INTERESTING after the Sun went down that evening.
    .
    If a Towboat called on the Radio, I would stop and pick up the handi-talkie
    to answer them.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .



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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Thu Dec 10 16:15:00 2020
    12-09-20 13:12 Mike Powell wrote to ED VANCE about Hydro went off - again Howdy! Mike,

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    I visited there when I was a kid as part of some field trip, probably with the Cub Scouts. It was interesting to a young child! :)

    I suppose Your field trip included stopping by the Lock area too?

    1971 is when I began working there, and I left in 1996.

    If I was on Day Shift You might had seen Me riding a Golf Cart to get to the Lower End.

    Ed,
    Yes it did! We watched at least one ship go through the locks. I
    would have been there sometime between 1977-1980, I think. You might
    have been one of the unfortunate souls who got their ears talked off by us. :)

    It sounds like Your group talked to the Lockman in the Upper Control building on the Lockwall on the South side of the Lock instead of on the North side where the Visitors area was at.

    I say "Was At" because the older 600 Foot and 360 Foot Locks were eliminated and a second 1200 Foot Lock was built where those Locks were.
    The Visitors area is now on the South (Kentucky) side of the installation, alongside that new 1200 Foot Lock.

    I've been retired over twenty years and haven't got a phone call yet from
    them asking me how to do something. GRIN

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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