Bill Gordon wrote to All <=-
Is there not a Macintosh echo, or am I just not seeing it?
I have recently acquired a Macintosh Classic, and have DOZENS of
questions about it.
Thanks
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- In God We TrustBill Gordon wrote to All <=-
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Is there not a Macintosh echo, or am I just not seeing it?
Is there not a Macintosh echo, or am I just not seeing it?
Is there not a Macintosh echo, or am I just not seeing it?
I have recently acquired a Macintosh Classic, and have DOZENS of
questions about it.
Bill Gordon wrote to All <=-
Is there not a Macintosh echo, or am I just not seeing it?
I have recently acquired a Macintosh Classic, and have DOZENS of questions about it.
Thanks
Just looked at Doc's Fido list (he says he carries the entire backbone) and there is nothing Mac or even Apple listed. This is probably as close as you' get on Phydeaux. And it's a low traffic echo. Me, I gave up on Apple when th introduced the Lisa (pre-Mac).
Fire up your internet machine and try this url
Just looked at Doc's Fido list (he says he carries the entire backbone)
and there is nothing Mac or even Apple listed. This is probably as close as >> you get on Phydeaux. And it's a low traffic echo. Me, I gave up on Apple
when th introduced the Lisa (pre-Mac).
Fire up your internet machine and try this url
Yeah, I wouldn't go to CNet for anything, let alone help with a vintage Mac. Here's the place you want: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/forum.php
ALL things vintage computer in one place. :)
Yeah, I wouldn't go to CNet for anything, let alone help with a vintage Mac. Here's the place you want: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/forum.php
ALL things vintage computer in one place. :)
Thanks for the link Gene.. :)
you'll get on Phydeaux. And it's a low traffic echo. Me, I gave up on Apple when they introduced the Lisa (pre-Mac).
Gene Buckle wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Is there not a Macintosh echo, or am I just not seeing it?
I have recently acquired a Macintosh Classic, and have DOZENS of questions about it.
Thanks
Just looked at Doc's Fido list (he says he carries the entire backbone) and there is nothing Mac or even Apple listed. This is probably as close as you' get on Phydeaux. And it's a low traffic echo. Me, I gave up on Apple when th introduced the Lisa (pre-Mac).
Fire up your internet machine and try this url
Yeah, I wouldn't go to CNet for anything, let alone help with a vintage Mac. Here's the place you want: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/forum.php
ALL things vintage computer in one place. :)
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-pple
you'll get on Phydeaux. And it's a low traffic echo. Me, I gave up on
when they introduced the Lisa (pre-Mac).
I bet some classic mac users might come out of the woodwork if we
posted here.
I started out working at my college bookstore on Mac Pluses running Farallon's PhoneNet network. We had a couple of Laserwriters and wired
the Macs to an old McDonnell Douglas midrange computer using Red Ryder terminal software. Some of my first BBSing was dialing out with that
kit when I should have been working.
I had a Lisa - it was running underneath my desk acting as a mail
server with its expansive 5 MB hard drive.
Later on, I worked at Berkeley Systems, the After Dark screen saver
folks, and they were hardcore Mac. I had my favorite system ever, an
old IIci with a cache card, loaded with RAM and external hard drives.
That system never crashed.
I owned an Amiga store - but would send people looking for Desktop publishing uses to the local Apple joint. Until Page Stream for the Miggy happened. Amiga users didn't kow what the "blue screen of death" was unless at a Windows user's computer.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-nless
I owned an Amiga store - but would send people looking for Desktop publishing uses to the local Apple joint. Until Page Stream for the Miggy happened. Amiga users didn't kow what the "blue screen of death" was
at a Windows user's computer.
Never had an Amiga, but always admired them. One of my long-time
callers back in the dial-up days was the author of Q-Blue.
Q-Blue was my default OLR until I was more-or-less forced in the Windows. I still sneaker net the accasional packet over to my A-3000T. On a 3.5" floppy since the Amiga totally predates USB thumb drives.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Back then, data was smaller. I used to carry all of the data I needed
with me on 1 or 2 repurposed AOL diskettes. :)
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Q-Blue was my default OLR until I was more-or-less forced in the Windows.
still sneaker net the accasional packet over to my A-3000T. On a 3.5" floppy since the Amiga totally predates USB thumb drives.
Back then, data was smaller. I used to carry all of the data I needed
with me on 1 or 2 repurposed AOL diskettes. :)
I appreciated the flashback scene in Mr. Robot when Christian Slater's character was sitting at his desk peeling AOL labels off of a stack of disks...
Tony Langdon wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Back then, data was smaller. I used to carry all of the data I needed
with me on 1 or 2 repurposed AOL diskettes. :)
Haha even here in Australia, the occasional AOL diskette came along for repurposing (yes, they did try and market themselves here for a while).
Never had any truck with AOL. Nor Compu$serve. I did, however re-use some disks from K-Mart's abortive Blue Light network. They didn't count on people possessing a notcher to make their "read only" 5.25" floppies useful.
Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I do have friends who still have AOL addresses as their primary e-mail.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
My friend, Glen, in Adelaide had an AOL address for a bit. He used it
when he tottered off to Vanatu or Nauru on various volunteer
engineering assignments. When he decided to stay around his home area
he went back to his tpg.com.au address.
Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Never had any truck with AOL. Nor Compu$serve. I did, however re-use
some disks from K-Mart's abortive Blue Light network. They didn't count
on people possessing a notcher to make their "read only" 5.25" floppies useful.
I do have friends who still have AOL addresses as their primary e-mail.
Never had any truck with AOL. Nor Compu$serve. I did, however re-use
some disks from K-Mart's abortive Blue Light network. They didn't count DD>> on
I was on QuantumLink waaaaay back when on my Commodore 64, back before
it became AOL. Later, I had a free account on Compuserve when my
company had a support forum on CI$. It was a great service at the time, feeling much like a curated internet with a customer service department.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Re: Macintosh echo
By: Dave Drum to Kurt Weiske on Fri Mar 03 2017 08:04 am
Never had any truck with AOL. Nor Compu$serve. I did, however re-use some disks from K-Mart's abortive Blue Light network. They didn't count on people possessing a notcher to make their "read only" 5.25" floppies useful.
I was on QuantumLink waaaaay back when on my Commodore 64, back before
it became AOL. Later, I had a free account on Compuserve when my
company had a support forum on CI$. It was a great service at the time, feeling much like a curated internet with a customer service
department.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I do have friends who still have AOL addresses as their primary e-mail.
My birth father still uses AOL dialup, IIRC. He does still use his AOL address; that's the only email address he's had besides work (he's now retired again). I know he's had it for probably at least 20 years now
or some such...
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
My friend, Glen, in Adelaide had an AOL address for a bit. He used it
when he tottered off to Vanatu or Nauru on various volunteer
engineering assignments. When he decided to stay around his home area
he went back to his tpg.com.au address.
Interesting. I don't recall knowing anyone outside the US with an AOL address, despite their marketing attempts here.
My birth father still uses AOL dialup, IIRC. He does still use his
AOL address; that's the only email address he's had besides work
(he's now retired again). I know he's had it for probably at least
20 years now or some such...
I still have a Net-Zero account so I *could* do dial-up. But I only have one computer left with a built in modem and an RJ-11 port. And I'd have to disable the call waiting on my single land-line.
No idea where my U. S. Robotics 2400 baud modem disappeared to.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Never had any truck with AOL. Nor Compu$serve. I did, however re-use
some disks from K-Mart's abortive Blue Light network. They didn't count
on people possessing a notcher to make their "read only" 5.25" floppies useful.
Having a notcher, that's fancy. I used to use a pair of scissors to
cut write access notches back in the Apple ][ days, to use the second
side of floppies (as a "flippy"). :)
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Glen was the only one I knew of. My other Adlaidewhoos all used a local
to S.A. dial-up service. But they didn't trot all about the Southern Hemisphere. My friends in Netherlands and France used a local (to them) dial-up service.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Nearly all of my 5.25" disks were flippys. I first used a train
conductors ticket punch to nibble the notch at the proper location.
Then one of the specialist suppliers of floppy disks offered the
notcher at a good price (free with minimum purchase IIRC) and the rest,
as they say, is now overwritten.
mark lewis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
My birth father still uses AOL dialup, IIRC. He does still use his
AOL address; that's the only email address he's had besides work
(he's now retired again). I know he's had it for probably at least
20 years now or some such...
I still have a Net-Zero account so I *could* do dial-up. But I only have one computer left with a built in modem and an RJ-11 port. And I'd have
to disable the call waiting on my single land-line.
that's easy enough to do with the right *code in the dialing string...
eg:
ATDT*70Wyour-number-here
*70 disables call-waiting
W waits for the dial tone to return
some people used commas instead of W... commas were like 2 second pauses... the W is best, though...
No idea where my U. S. Robotics 2400 baud modem disappeared to.
you can probably get a USR Courier with 56k capability off ebay for a
song and a dance these days... maybe $5US to $10US or so... the hard
part will likely be finding a RS-232 serial to USB connector that works with your OS and software... this if your machine doesn't have any traditional RS-232 ports or header on the MB ;)
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Glen was the only one I knew of. My other Adlaidewhoos all used a local
to S.A. dial-up service. But they didn't trot all about the Southern Hemisphere. My friends in Netherlands and France used a local (to them) dial-up service.
Those would have been the days before Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, Gmail, wifi hotspots and mobile Internet everywhere. So I can see how an AOL
account would have made a lot of sense. :)
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Nearly all of my 5.25" disks were flippys. I first used a train
conductors ticket punch to nibble the notch at the proper location.
Yeah, I'm sure just about all of my old Apple disks were flippys too.
You know, high school student, not a lot of cash, so flippys halved my costs. :)
Then one of the specialist suppliers of floppy disks offered the
notcher at a good price (free with minimum purchase IIRC) and the rest,
as they say, is now overwritten.
Nice one. A notcher would have made my life easier. :)
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Others that have survived the interweb's smothering presence are
Earthlink and Juno. There may be others - but those spring to mind
easily -- I have correspondents who still use those email addresses.
With the advent of the World Wide Wait one could ditch the list of
local dial-up access numbers if trying to access messages away from
home.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Also the metallic looking wrap around sticky-back tabs I used to make Read-only 3.5" freebie disks writable. Bv)=
Now disks of any sort are getting hard to find .... everything is
either on SD cards, CD/DVD disks or thumb drives. FEH!
... Experience is knowing a lot of things you shouldn't do again.
Then one of the specialist suppliers of floppy disks offered theNice one. A notcher would have made my life easier. :)
notcher at a good price (free with minimum purchase IIRC) and the rest, as they say, is now overwritten.
Mike Powell wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Nice one. A notcher would have made my life easier. :)
For the 5.25's, I always just used a sharp pair of scissors. :)
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Others that have survived the interweb's smothering presence are
Earthlink and Juno. There may be others - but those spring to mind
easily -- I have correspondents who still use those email addresses.
Yes, I still know someone with a Juno address. :)
With the advent of the World Wide Wait one could ditch the list of
local dial-up access numbers if trying to access messages away from
home.
Sometimes. Some ISPs still have badly setup mail servers that are unreliable from outside their network.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Also the metallic looking wrap around sticky-back tabs I used to make Read-only 3.5" freebie disks writable. Bv)=
Yep. :)
Now disks of any sort are getting hard to find .... everything is
either on SD cards, CD/DVD disks or thumb drives. FEH!
I haven't seen a new floppy disk for years.
I got away with line camping on Microsoft network. Had a dual channel isdn connection for the bbs, msn allowed connectiong with a standard dial up acct. Got away with it for about 6 months until one day my act was suspended..
I got away with line camping on Microsoft network. Had a dual channel
isdn connection for the bbs, msn allowed connectiong with a standard
dial up acct. Got away with it for about 6 months until one day my
act was suspended..
ISDN was great as someone else paid for it. I had an ISDN line at my
home, a Morotola BitSurfr Pro modem, and connected to work's Shiva LANRover for internet connectivity. I'd dial up to work with the
second B channel, keep the first B channel open for BBS calls (inbound calls were free, outbound paid by the minute.)
I started using Internet Rex to download echomail, and occasionally
used the second B channel to hunt when the first was busy, or bind
them for one 112kbps internet connection.
"bit robbing" is/was used so the telco can carry more and a lower quality rate... in many cases, they swiped a bit from each connection... instead of 8 bits, you only got 7... 7 of those stolen bits made another connection that could be carried... they did similar with ISDN, too...
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
If one is messaging someone with an address in that network, surely.
But AOL, Juno and Earthlink are like Gmail or Yahoo in that they are on their own server(s) and merely accessed by using someone's net to get
on the Interweb. Even Excite - where I still have an email address of vladimir.ilyich@excite.com Bv)= My user name there is Nicolai Ulyanov ..... so far no one has "got it". Bv(=
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I haven't seen a new floppy disk for years.
They are still available at http://www.floppydisk.com/retail who claim they ship worldwide - although I can see the shipping costing more than the product. Also Amazon, eBay, etc. Also drives.
"bit robbing" is/was used so the telco can carry more and a lower
quality rate... in many cases, they swiped a bit from each
connection... instead of 8 bits, you only got 7... 7 of those stolen
bits made another connection that could be carried... they did
similar with ISDN, too...
With ISDN in the US it was done to use inband SF signalling, which
didn't make a lot of sense since you had a whole D channel for call setup/teardown.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
If one is messaging someone with an address in that network, surely.
But AOL, Juno and Earthlink are like Gmail or Yahoo in that they are on their own server(s) and merely accessed by using someone's net to get
on the Interweb. Even Excite - where I still have an email address of vladimir.ilyich@excite.com Bv)= My user name there is Nicolai Ulyanov ..... so far no one has "got it". Bv(=
Ahh, I see, so they've turned more into cloud providers?
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
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Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
If one is messaging someone with an address in that network, surely.
But AOL, Juno and Earthlink are like Gmail or Yahoo in that they are on their own server(s) and merely accessed by using someone's net to get
on the Interweb. Even Excite - where I still have an email address of vladimir.ilyich@excite.com Bv)= My user name there is Nicolai Ulyanov ..... so far no one has "got it". Bv(=
Ahh, I see, so they've turned more into cloud providers?
Who has turned into cloud providers? Google (Gmail owner) has offered cloud services for some time. As has Yahoo. Excite is circling the
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I didn't think they were so pricey. I bought a 3.5" USB external floppy drive from newegg.com a couple years ago for less than U$20 .... to facilitate my sneaker net. I'm dreading the day that my last 1541
floppy drive for my C=64 dies though.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
If one is messaging someone with an address in that network, surely.
But AOL, Juno and Earthlink are like Gmail or Yahoo in that they are on their own server(s) and merely accessed by using someone's net to get
on the Interweb. Even Excite - where I still have an email address of vladimir.ilyich@excite.com Bv)= My user name there is Nicolai Ulyanov ..... so far no one has "got it". Bv(=
Ahh, I see, so they've turned more into cloud providers?
Who has turned into cloud providers? Google (Gmail owner) has offered cloud services for some time. As has Yahoo. Excite is circling the
Re-read my post, I posed the question about AOL, Juno and Earthlink.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I didn't think they were so pricey. I bought a 3.5" USB external floppy drive from newegg.com a couple years ago for less than U$20 .... to facilitate my sneaker net. I'm dreading the day that my last 1541
floppy drive for my C=64 dies though.
I was looking at 5.25" drives, which haven't been in common use for longer. Mainly because I was looking originally in the context of solutions for copying Apple // disks to disk images (there is a drive
on the market which is even more expensive).
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I had mentioned six different services. You weren't very specific until this last posting. I have not a clew as to where the services store
their stuff - in the clouds or under the mattresses. I don't use (and never will) cloud storage - not trusting it to be secure. For all I
know those services may stash their data on flash drive arrays. Or a multi-terrabyte googleplex set up.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
There is a source for disk images of C=64 games, etc. on the internet. I've not looked for Apple/Atari/TI stuff - but I'll bet it's out there.
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Three quick pints of VB on an empty stomach will serve the purpose.
There is a source for disk images of C=64 games, etc. on the internet. I've not looked for Apple/Atari/TI stuff - but I'll bet it's out there.
There is a source for disk images of C=64 games, etc. on the
internet. I've not looked for Apple/Atari/TI stuff - but I'll bet
it's out there.
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Three quick pints of VB on an empty stomach will serve the purpose.
... Midget fortune-teller escapes from prison. Small medium at large!
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(1:18/200)
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
their stuff - in the clouds or under the mattresses. I don't use (and never will) cloud storage - not trusting it to be secure. For all I
know those services may stash their data on flash drive arrays. Or a multi-terrabyte googleplex set up.
Well, the only thing secure is nowhere near the net. :)
Mike Powell wrote to Dave Drum <=-
There is a source for disk images of C=64 games, etc. on the internet. I've not looked for Apple/Atari/TI stuff - but I'll bet it's out there.
I have seen TI stuff from time to time. I has been a while since I
have looked, though, but there were some active TI communities online.
Drew Klenotic wrote to Dave Drum <=-
There is a source for disk images of C=64 games, etc. on the
internet. I've not looked for Apple/Atari/TI stuff - but I'll bet
it's out there.
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Three quick pints of VB on an empty stomach will serve the purpose.
To which Drew Klenotic replies...
For getting disk images to floppies... For the images themselves, I usually check AtariMania.com first. As for getting them on the
machines, for the 8-bits, I prefer using the ProSystem that comes with
Ape (requires an SIO2PC or SIO2USB) but those devices also let you use
the images directly on those computers without using the floppy at all
so a lot of people prefer that route.
For the ST, a lot of things come just as zip files since the ST can
read 720k PC format disks. For games or things that require a real
image, the two options are 1) Copy the image to a 720 floppy and
"extract" it on the ST or 2) If you have a genuine floppy drive (not a
USB floppy) on your PC, there is a program (name escapes me but I want
to say FloImg or something like that) that will take care of that for
you. (The reason that it won't work on a USB drive is that the USB
drives generally can only use the standard formats and can't handle the wierd 800k formats that the ST would sometimes use, especially for
games).
I used to (still do some days) answer the telephone "F*ck Hoover". An homage to J. Edgar Hoover, notorious head of the Feral Bureau of Investigation which was well-know for illegally wire-tapping/eavesdropping private citizens.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I used to (still do some days) answer the telephone "F*ck Hoover". An homage to J. Edgar Hoover, notorious head of the Feral Bureau of Investigation which was well-know for illegally
wire-tapping/eavesdropping private citizens. I probably should come up with something similar to insert into e-mails and saluting the NSA.
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Good luck with that. One of the reasons that I transferred nearly all
of my Commode Door sox to optical media or thumb drives is the
notoriously flaky media used in floppies. a stray cosmic ray can ruin
your whole disk by flipping a single vital bit.
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Three quick pints of VB on an empty stomach will serve the purpose.
LOL, so true! :D
For those of you not familair with Australia - VB is Victoria Bitter -
a popular frothingslosh. And quite tasty.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-wire-tapping/eavesdropping
I used to (still do some days) answer the telephone "F*ck Hoover". An homage to J. Edgar Hoover, notorious head of the Feral Bureau of Investigation which was well-know for illegally
private citizens.
I miss George Carlin.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I used to (still do some days) answer the telephone "F*ck Hoover". An homage to J. Edgar Hoover, notorious head of the Feral Bureau of Investigation which was well-know for illegally
wire-tapping/eavesdropping private citizens. I probably should come up with something similar to insert into e-mails and saluting the NSA.
Haha reminds me of the days of analogue mobile phones, where I used to
say "hello to all the scanner listeners". Even though it was illegal, many people (besides the spooks) did monitor phones.
Tony Langdon wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Good luck with that. One of the reasons that I transferred nearly all
of my Commode Door sox to optical media or thumb drives is the
notoriously flaky media used in floppies. a stray cosmic ray can ruin
your whole disk by flipping a single vital bit.
The only real way to be safe is redundancy - multiple copies on
multiple technologies in multiple locations. :)
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Three quick pints of VB on an empty stomach will serve the purpose.
LOL, so true! :D
For those of you not familair with Australia - VB is Victoria Bitter -
a popular frothingslosh. And quite tasty.
Yep, not a bad drop. :)
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
All of my telephone eavesdropping was done with alligator clips and a headset. My best friend (at the time) and I used to listen to his
sister's phone calls with her girl friends. Got a lot of tips on which
of her friends were "easy" dates. And once got to listen to a "performance review" of a date that I had gone on with one of those
girls. Did my ego a world of good.
It's amazing the things that people will say even on devices they know
are vulnerable. We had a governor in our state that the Feds were
preparig to prosecute .... and he knew he was being monitored, But, the arrogant ass did not become one bit circumspect in his telephone behaviour. He's now serving a term in the Terre Haute Federal
Correctional Institute. Bv)=
Dave Drum wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
The only real way to be safe is redundancy - multiple copies on
multiple technologies in multiple locations. :)
True dat. Sometimes I grin so hard it hurts my face when I tentatively insert a suspect disk into the drive and everything goes to plan. I
then make sure to back it up immediately - if not sooner.
... If I had a hammer, I'd get hammered in the morning.
Three quick pints of VB on an empty stomach will serve the purpose.
LOL, so true! :D
For those of you not familair with Australia - VB is Victoria Bitter -
a popular frothingslosh. And quite tasty.
Yep, not a bad drop. :)
Hard to find in the USA, though. Newcastle Brown Ale will do in a pinch
as a substitute.
For sneaker-netting onto an Amiga floppy (880K) I copy the thing to a single density DOS floppy (720K) which my 'Miggy will read. Then
transfer it to the hard disk of the Amiga and burn it back to an 880K
Amiga formatted floppy. I assume you can do something similar with
your 1040 Atari.
... May your Chanukah prayers not be drowned out by incessant
Christmas music.
--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
Drew Klenotic wrote to Dave Drum <=-
For sneaker-netting onto an Amiga floppy (880K) I copy the thing to a single density DOS floppy (720K) which my 'Miggy will read. Then
transfer it to the hard disk of the Amiga and burn it back to an 880K Amiga formatted floppy. I assume you can do something similar with
your 1040 Atari.
Well, I have just about everything but a 1040, but yeah. The problem
is with game images that have to be written in that format. For
regular files, the sneaker netting works just fine. For games written
as regular files, ditto. But for some of the games that need to be in
the specific 800k format, it's only slightly less easy.
I'm not up on the Atari line - was there any major difference between
the 520 and 1040 besides the memory? I was pretty sure you weren't
still mucking about with an 800XL.
Wait-a-minit. I still have (and fire up from time to time) a Commode
Door 64 - no reason you wouldn't be fussing with a 400 or 800 machine.
... "Pieces of Nine".."Pieces of Nine"...sorry...Parroty error!
--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
Drew Klenotic wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I'm not up on the Atari line - was there any major difference between
the 520 and 1040 besides the memory? I was pretty sure you weren't
still mucking about with an 800XL.
Wait-a-minit. I still have (and fire up from time to time) a Commode
Door 64 - no reason you wouldn't be fussing with a 400 or 800 machine.
Well, actually yes, I have at least half a dozen 800xls, 2 1200xls, and
a 130xe from the 8-bit line (and actually, looking to get a Commode
Door 64 in the next few weeks). I actually just put up a BBS in
progress on my main 800xl (the one I had since I was a kid). (In
progress means I leave it up for callers, but still have some work to
do with it).
As far as the ST/TT/Falcon line, I run STar Fleet HQ on a Mega 4 STE
(with the same hard drive I got for it in the mid 90's) which is the Fidonet node BBS. (No Fido for the 8-bit Atari BBSs).
I also have 2 520 STs, a few Mega STs, another Mega 4 STE, a STacy, 2 Falcon030s and a TT030. I guess technically, I do have a 1040 STf but since I bought it broken for parts I don't count it as part of the collection.
As far as the difference between the 520 and 1040, that depends. The 520STm (which I have 2 of) has no internal floppy. The 1040ST is generally really a 1040STf (or STfm) which has an internal floppy (the
M is for whether it has an RF modulator in addition to the monitor
out). As far as I know, there was no 1040STm There are 520STfm which
in that case, a 520STfm and 1040STfm only differ by memory. Same with
the 520STE and 1040STE (e=enhanced and all have an internal floppy -
not sure about the modulator).
And that is your 20 line answer to what could have been a yes/no
question.
Most of my stack of ancient stuff from the wood-fired, steam powered,
belt drive days has been given to others who expressed an interest or
to the local recyclers (we have an elecrtonics/computer recycler
here). I have two Amigas - one with a 68030 and the other with an 040
and the C=64 to go with my wad of Winders and Linux boxes. Currently sorting through several boxes of miscellaneous cables to try an
condense down to manageable proportions. And just found a SCSI Tower
that I had forgotten about - with its own power supply but none of
the 5.25" half-height SCSI drives needed to populate it. However, not
all is lost. I believe that NewEgg has adapters. If not Pacific Geeks
just came back on-line. Bv)=
... If it weren't for Edison we'd be using computers by candlelight
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Drew Klenotic wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Most of my stack of ancient stuff from the wood-fired, steam powered,
belt drive days has been given to others who expressed an interest or
to the local recyclers (we have an elecrtonics/computer recycler
here). I have two Amigas - one with a 68030 and the other with an 040
and the C=64 to go with my wad of Winders and Linux boxes. Currently sorting through several boxes of miscellaneous cables to try an
condense down to manageable proportions. And just found a SCSI Tower
that I had forgotten about - with its own power supply but none of
the 5.25" half-height SCSI drives needed to populate it. However, not
all is lost. I believe that NewEgg has adapters. If not Pacific Geeks
just came back on-line. Bv)=
I actually still use SCSI drives for the BBS. How many bays in that tower? At any rate, adapters are easy to find.
But if you ever decide to "recycle" any of those Amigas or SCSI stuff I could recommend my computer cave. ;)
I'll have to dig it back out of the pile and look. IIRC it was either
three or five. I mentioned it at my last Unix club meeting and
Fearless Leader began salivating. He's ressurecting a Burroughs B-20 mini-frame and may bring back Springfield's first ever multi-line
dial-up BBS that he wrote in 1981. Bv)=
TBH - it probably won't happen unless he can update the arcnet to
ethernet and whore-up a method for telnet access rather that
exclusively dial-up modems. But it was fun to speculate about at the meeting, And it sure used up a lot of pizza and beverage.
... MS-DOS=suit & tie, Macintosh=cool shades, Amiga=high heels &
leather
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