In article <bd6de$509b1c3a$cf62c293$13...@KNOLOGY.NET>,
Dennis \(Icarus\) <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Since this is an existing thread, and I doubt any of us are on >hand-moderation, the moderators aren't approving the messages.
I thought I put him on hand moderation after the last exchange. aI'll
fix it.
Jay
--
On Friday, November 23, 2012 2:04:25 PM UTC-5, Jay Denebeim wrote:except be slightly paranoid. aWhy give him ammunition for said paranoia?
I thought I put him on hand moderation after the last exchange. aI'll
fix it.
I don't see why you would do that. aHe's hasn't really done anything wrong
Jan
In article <53ba5131-4704-41a6-92d1-23bd7196328b@googlegroups.com>,
Jan a<janmschroe...@aol.com> wrote:
I don't see why you would do that. aHe's hasn't really done anything
wrong except be slightly paranoid. aWhy give him ammunition for said >paranoia?
Because he's demonstrated an inability to let things slide.
Since Amy
is moderating about once a day here this will have the effect of
slowing down his rate a bit.
In article <k8oi07$7p...@dent.deepthot>,
Jay Denebeim <deneb...@deepthot.org> wrote:
Might be a bit more work now that Mr Fury here is hand moderated. aI
don't think he's using a real e-mail address here, so any bounces that >happen he's not gonna see.
Turns out I was wrong, I just sent him an e-mail talking about this
stuff and it got delivered. aSo it is indeed a real e-mail address.
In article<1535d503-dfce-4694-94c5-846c8c16c...@b12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
StarFuryG7 a<StarFur...@aim.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 9:14 pm, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
One of the things that's
always bothered me about "Covert Affairs" is that one of the main >characters is supposed to be something of a computer whiz even though
he's blind, which I've found to be incredibly unrealistic.
She's not the first person. aSoftware engineering/computer
administration is one of the traditional things a non-sited person can
do really well. aOf course in these days of GUIs its a bit harder.
Plain text helps I would imagine.
Jay
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On Nov 23, 2:41apm, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:<1535d503-dfce-4694-94c5-846c8c16c...@b12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
In article
StarFuryG7 a<StarFur...@aim.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 9:14 pm, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
One of the things that's
always bothered me about "Covert Affairs" is that one of the main >characters is supposed to be something of a computer whiz even though >he's blind, which I've found to be incredibly unrealistic.
She's not the first person. aSoftware engineering/computer
administration is one of the traditional things a non-sited person can
do really well. aOf course in these days of GUIs its a bit harder.
Plain text helps I would imagine.
Back in the old days, IBM mainframe provisions for blind users were off-the-shelf options, such as braille adaptors for standard printers.
But modern GUI frameworks do a pretty good job; text-to-speech is
standard on Mac OS X (and iOS, too), and if Windows doesn't have it,
well, shame on them. Of course, an individual app developer can screw
it up, but most government departments would never pass software that
did that.
"StarFuryG7" <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote in message
news:7865a561-9d32-482e-a528-5b7c31b0cace@m4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 16, 8:20 am, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
---
Well, since I didn't call you a liar, just self delusional,
Now who's being dishonest?
You implied both, neither which are at all flattering obviously, so
I'm not even going to waste my time reading the rest of your reply.
I'm really not in the mood.
---
What implications you take from my messages are your filters and tapes
On Nov 23, 2:41 pm, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
In article <1535d503-dfce-4694-94c5-846c8c16c...@b12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
StarFuryG7 <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 9:14 pm, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
One of the things that's
always bothered me about "Covert Affairs" is that one of the main >characters is supposed to be something of a computer whiz even though >he's blind, which I've found to be incredibly unrealistic.
She's not the first person. Software engineering/computer
administration is one of the traditional things a non-sited person can
do really well. Of course in these days of GUIs its a bit harder.
Plain text helps I would imagine.
Back in the old days, IBM mainframe provisions for blind users were off-the-shelf options, such as braille adaptors for standard printers.
But modern GUI frameworks do a pretty good job; text-to-speech is
standard on Mac OS X (and iOS, too), and if Windows doesn't have it,
well, shame on them. Of course, an individual app developer can screw
it up, but most government departments would never pass software that
did that.
"StarFuryG7" <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote in message
news:7865a561-9d32-482e-a528-5b7c31b0cace@m4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 16, 8:20 am, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
---
Well, since I didn't call you a liar, just self delusional,
Now who's being dishonest?
You implied both, neither which are at all flattering obviously, so
I'm not even going to waste my time reading the rest of your reply.
I'm really not in the mood.
---
What implications you take from my messages are your filters and tapes
(in article <48d52817-f85a-4125-95d7-c2e362cc8547@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>):On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:20:18 -0500, StarFuryG7 wrote
On Nov 23, 2:32apm, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
In article <k8oi07$7p...@dent.deepthot>,
Jay Denebeim <deneb...@deepthot.org> wrote:
Might be a bit more work now that Mr Fury here is hand moderated. aI
don't think he's using a real e-mail address here, so any bounces that
happen he's not gonna see.
Turns out I was wrong, I just sent him an e-mail talking about this
stuff and it got delivered. aSo it is indeed a real e-mail address.
It's always entertaining to see someone quoting himself and then
responding to it as though it was a statement made by someone else, especially when it's a moderator who's doing it. <<
"StarFuryG7" <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote in message
news:5bfadb03-2cfa-4039-a09c-ee74b2f9181e@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 24, 8:48 pm, "John W. Kennedy" <john.w.kenn...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 23, 2:41 pm, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
In article <1535d503-dfce-4694-94c5-846c8c16c...@b12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
StarFuryG7 <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 9:14 pm, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
One of the things that's
always bothered me about "Covert Affairs" is that one of the main >characters is supposed to be something of a computer whiz even though >he's blind, which I've found to be incredibly unrealistic.
She's not the first person. Software engineering/computer
administration is one of the traditional things a non-sited person can
do really well. Of course in these days of GUIs its a bit harder.
Plain text helps I would imagine.
Back in the old days, IBM mainframe provisions for blind users were off-the-shelf options, such as braille adaptors for standard printers.
But modern GUI frameworks do a pretty good job; text-to-speech is
standard on Mac OS X (and iOS, too), and if Windows doesn't have it,
well, shame on them. Of course, an individual app developer can screw
it up, but most government departments would never pass software that
did that.
What you people seem to be missing here, since none of you appear to
be viewers of the show I mentioned, is that the character I referenced
has to move fast, sometimes often, and that the lives of agents out n
the field depend on his getting things done as quickly as possible. It
seems to me that as a person who's blind, he's probably not the best qualified for that kind of a position.
---
You'd be surprised how fast a blind person can move about and do things in
an environment in which he or she has control of the space. Of course I
can't comment on the show, as I've not heard of it, much less seen it or
more accurately listened to it.
But since you said nothing about needs for mobility in your first post, instead just commenting on the character being a computer whiz, we had no indication of any need to be able to move around, did we? Please put the goalposts back where you found them.
"StarFuryG7" <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote in message
news:5bfadb03-2cfa-4039-a09c-ee74b2f9181e@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 24, 8:48 pm, "John W. Kennedy" <john.w.kenn...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 23, 2:41 pm, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
In article <1535d503-dfce-4694-94c5-846c8c16c...@b12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
StarFuryG7 <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote:
On Nov 8, 9:14 pm, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
One of the things that's
always bothered me about "Covert Affairs" is that one of the main >characters is supposed to be something of a computer whiz even though >he's blind, which I've found to be incredibly unrealistic.
She's not the first person. Software engineering/computer
administration is one of the traditional things a non-sited person can
do really well. Of course in these days of GUIs its a bit harder.
Plain text helps I would imagine.
Back in the old days, IBM mainframe provisions for blind users were off-the-shelf options, such as braille adaptors for standard printers.
But modern GUI frameworks do a pretty good job; text-to-speech is
standard on Mac OS X (and iOS, too), and if Windows doesn't have it,
well, shame on them. Of course, an individual app developer can screw
it up, but most government departments would never pass software that
did that.
What you people seem to be missing here, since none of you appear to
be viewers of the show I mentioned, is that the character I referenced
has to move fast, sometimes often, and that the lives of agents out n
the field depend on his getting things done as quickly as possible. It
seems to me that as a person who's blind, he's probably not the best qualified for that kind of a position.
---
You'd be surprised how fast a blind person can move about and do things in
an environment in which he or she has control of the space. Of course I
can't comment on the show, as I've not heard of it, much less seen it or
more accurately listened to it.
But since you said nothing about needs for mobility in your first post, instead just commenting on the character being a computer whiz, we had no indication of any need to be able to move around, did we? Please put the goalposts back where you found them.
(in article <k8dnl5$qgh$1@dont-email.me>):On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:44:21 -0500, Doug Freyburger wrote
Jan wrote:
StarFuryG7 wrote:
Are you the only moderator here?
YES, for all intents and purposes she is.
Thank you Amy. Plus all of the other mods over they years. RASTB5.mod
is the shining example of success in moderated newsgroups. Not "a"
shining example but "the" shining example. More than just being abuot
the best TV show ever so the content rules, the longevity of the
moderation team is beyond the kenn of mortal man. <<
Thanks for the kind words, Doug.
Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and
would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
are.
In article <k9aqvf$5oq$1@dont-email.me>,
Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:
zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and
would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
are.
Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for
ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a
Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time
it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That
was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came
out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort
and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something
about my priorities these days.
Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!
We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
We will be at Worldcon in San Antonio next year as well as at Phoenix Comicon.
Cheryl
In article <k9aqvf$5oq$1@dont-email.me>,
Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:
zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and
would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
are.
Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for
ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a
Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time
it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That
was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came
out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort >>and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something >>about my priorities these days.
Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!
We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
We will be at Worldcon in San Antonio next year as well as at Phoenix Comicon.
zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and
would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
are.
Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for
ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a
Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time
it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That
was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came
out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort
and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something
about my priorities these days.
Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the >science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!
Once Upon A Time,
Chris Adams wrote:
Harrison Schmitt (the last man, and only pure scientist, to
walk on the Moon) will be here in a couple of weeks for a dinner to >>celebrate the 40th anniversary of the last manned Moon landing.
Nitpick: Schmitt was the last man to step onto the Moon. Eugene Cernan was >the last man to walk on the moon. (Schmitt exited the Apollo 17 lander last >upon landing, and entered it first when they were leaving.)
Harrison Schmitt (the last man, and only pure scientist, to
walk on the Moon) will be here in a couple of weeks for a dinner to
celebrate the 40th anniversary of the last manned Moon landing.
So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this
year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has
grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO.
--
Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
In article <k9bj4q$s9v$1@news.albasani.net>,
Nicole Massey <nyyki@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
<zofran@deepthot.org> wrote in message news:k9b3ji$4sc$1@dent.deepthot...
In article <k9aqvf$5oq$1@dont-email.me>,
Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:
zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and >>>>> would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we >>>>> are.
Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for >>>>ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a >>>>Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time >>>>it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That >>>>was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came >>>>out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort >>>>and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something >>>>about my priorities these days.
Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the
science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!
We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well
attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
We will be at Worldcon in San Antonio next year as well as at Phoenix
Comicon.
You know, it's been a while since I went to a convention. (Probably >>Galaxycon in 1992 was my last one, other than a brief drop in at the >>Richardson Comicon to get my Strangers in Paradise stuff signed by Terry >>Moore) and with Worldcon in San Antonio that's probably a trip I could >>muster up folks to go to from DFW. It might be worth it to make the trip.
Shiny! I've always found Worldcon to be worth the trip. Meeting new
friends and seeing old ones. Lots of great panels. In Chicago, we
had a very unexpected encounter with David Brin as we wandered the
exhibit hall. Managed to spend some time with an old friend we hadn't
seen in years and years (had to put us on her schedule, she was so
busy!)
As time draws near, Jay or I will post something here about how to
find us at con. Heck, maybe we will throw a room party.
<zofran@deepthot.org> wrote in message news:k9b3ji$4sc$1@dent.deepthot...
In article <k9aqvf$5oq$1@dont-email.me>,
Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:
zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and >>>> would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
are.
Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for >>>ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a >>>Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time >>>it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That
was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came >>>out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort >>>and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something >>>about my priorities these days.
Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the
science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!
We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well
attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
We will be at Worldcon in San Antonio next year as well as at Phoenix
Comicon.
You know, it's been a while since I went to a convention. (Probably >Galaxycon in 1992 was my last one, other than a brief drop in at the >Richardson Comicon to get my Strangers in Paradise stuff signed by Terry >Moore) and with Worldcon in San Antonio that's probably a trip I could >muster up folks to go to from DFW. It might be worth it to make the trip.
We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well >attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
In article <k9b3ji$4s...@dent.deepthot>, a<zof...@deepthot.org> wrote:
We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well >attended and excellent. aFor whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. aOr maybe we just have a
B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
Well, I think it has alot to do with the way literary fans were in
those days. aB5 was the first show it was 'ok' to like if you were a
reader. aEvery rant against media SF was prefixed by 'except for B5,
of course'. aTo this day people are really fond of it.
Once upon a time, Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com> said: >Looks like there's achance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a >reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have >a number of B5 guests to celebratth
Looks like there's a chance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a >reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have
a number of B5 guests to celebratth anniversary!
Thanks Chris! If you're still in the same room, I'll be sure to stop
by. And thanks for reminding programming about the anniversary - B5
seems to always draw a good crowd and it'd be a shame for the
anniversary to not get a big celebration.
Once upon a time, Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com> said:
Looks like there's a chance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a >>reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have
a number of B5 guests to celebratth anniversary!
Hope to see you there! I'll remind a friend on the programming
committee about B5's anniversary.
(in article <k8uoct$imc$1@news.albasani.net>):On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:38:50 -0500, Nicole Massey wrote
"Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.CCD823C6074D0F57B051B9BF@news.eternal-september.org...
(in article <k8t8js$mkj$1@news.albasani.net>):On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:03:21 -0500, Nicole Massey wrote
The NFB is a problem sometimes for blind folks. They contend that
blindness
isn't a handicap, society's approach to it is what gives blind folks
trouble. They're anti-guide dog, instead preferring blind folks to use a >>>> long "glide" cane that doesn't contact the ground, and they're also
against
talking elevators and chirp signals on traffic lights. <<
Well, that is extremely interesting and curious. Nicole, I am curious what >>> your position is on all of that?
I find the position that blindness isn't a handicap to be one that might be >> useful in getting political support, but not of much use actually helping >> those who are blind.<<
That's really unfortunate. I wonder why they would be so positional if it >actually fails to help most of the community they aim to represent?
And I'mneutral on the traffic signals -- unless everyone is driving a Prius <<
Guilty! I am quite careful when I see *anyone* crossing anywhere near me, >because it really is completely silent.
My values are morein keeping with the American Council of the Blind, though I'm a bit
frustrated that these two organization were so busy fighting with each other
during the talks for the ADA that the mobility folks managed to get broad >> applications of what are commonly known as "wheelchair ramps of death" by >> blind folks. (Curbs are superior for blind people over ramps because they >> signal the end of a sidewalk and the beginning of a more dangerous street --
ramps with bumps, sometimes jokingly called "Acne Ramps" or "measles ramps" >> are better than nude ramps but not as good as curbs) <<
I don't think I've ever seen a ramp with bumps iawill keep an eye out for >them. And, what you say about the curb signalling the start of the street >makes complete sense! I had no idea there was so much division in the blind >community. I guess it's like any other insular community i a theatre troupe, >a family, a newsgroup i familiarity ultimately breeds dissent!
Amy
(in article <k8uoct$imc$1@news.albasani.net>):On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:38:50 -0500, Nicole Massey wrote
"Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.CCD823C6074D0F57B051B9BF@news.eternal-september.org...
(in article <k8t8js$mkj$1@news.albasani.net>):On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:03:21 -0500, Nicole Massey wrote
The NFB is a problem sometimes for blind folks. They contend that
blindness
isn't a handicap, society's approach to it is what gives blind folks
trouble. They're anti-guide dog, instead preferring blind folks to use >>>> a
long "glide" cane that doesn't contact the ground, and they're also
against
talking elevators and chirp signals on traffic lights. <<
Well, that is extremely interesting and curious. Nicole, I am curious
what
your position is on all of that?
I find the position that blindness isn't a handicap to be one that might
be
useful in getting political support, but not of much use actually helping
those who are blind.<<
That's really unfortunate. I wonder why they would be so positional if it >actually fails to help most of the community they aim to represent?
And I'mneutral on the traffic signals -- unless everyone is driving a Prius <<
Guilty! I am quite careful when I see *anyone* crossing anywhere near me, >because it really is completely silent.
My values are morein keeping with the American Council of the Blind, though I'm a bit
frustrated that these two organization were so busy fighting with each
other
during the talks for the ADA that the mobility folks managed to get broad
applications of what are commonly known as "wheelchair ramps of death" by
blind folks. (Curbs are superior for blind people over ramps because they
signal the end of a sidewalk and the beginning of a more dangerous
street --
ramps with bumps, sometimes jokingly called "Acne Ramps" or "measles
ramps"
are better than nude ramps but not as good as curbs) <<
I don't think I've ever seen a ramp with bumps < will keep an eye out for >them. And, what you say about the curb signalling the start of the street >makes complete sense! I had no idea there was so much division in the blind >community. I guess it's like any other insular community < a theatre
troupe,
a family, a newsgroup < familiarity ultimately breeds dissent!
Amy
(in article <YYidnZjd7anVEyTNnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>):On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:57:44 -0500, Chris Adams wrote
So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this
year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has
grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO. <<
(in article <k9f0al$qgc$1@dent.deepthot>):On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 02:34:45 -0500, Jay Denebeim wrote
Speaking of which, we just saw Iron Sky. Clearly the effects people
were B5 fans, there were lots of visual references to it. when the
good guys ships attacked it looked just like B5, plus gratuitous
rotating secions, and ginsu knife beams. <<
(in article <YYidnZjd7anVEyTNnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>):On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:57:44 -0500, Chris Adams wrote
So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this
year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has
grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO. <<
Hey Chris!
We expect to be there. Will keep in touch as it gets closer!
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