• Bug Report :-)

    From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Tue Feb 20 22:32:00 2018

    Hi Andrew -- on Feb 21 2018 at 12:38, you wrote:

    If so, please provide me with any feedback!

    Windows 10 64 bit. Timednt exe but everything else left exactly as the way I use it with the old Timed (although I used to run it on XP).

    1) Full screen window -- the index of message areas looks like a 3/4 size window within the main window. It returns to full screen when a message is opened or edited.

    2) Control-End does not jump to the last message in an area.

    3) Headers (to, from etc) are lost when scrolling down in a long message.

    4) Bottom line ("Area: xxx % Current: xx High: xx |clock" not showing

    5) On XP -- no difference noticed at all between timed.exe, tim386.exe, and timednt.exe

    More to come, I suspect -- but I sure appreciate being able to use timed locally again!!



    Cheers... Dallas



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to andrew clarke on Tue Feb 20 23:24:48 2018
    Hi Dallas -- on Feb 20 2018 at 22:32, you wrote:

    If so, please provide me with any feedback!
    Windows 10 64 bit.

    F1 (help) does nothing!!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/715)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Dallas Hinton on Wed Feb 21 08:40:42 2018
    Hi Dallas,

    On 2018-02-20 22:32:00, you wrote to andrew clarke:

    If so, please provide me with any feedback!

    Windows 10 64 bit. Timednt exe but everything else left exactly as the way I use it with the old Timed (although I used to run it on XP).

    1) Full screen window -- the index of message areas looks like a 3/4 size window within the main window. It returns to full screen when a message is opened or edited.

    2) Control-End does not jump to the last message in an area.

    3) Headers (to, from etc) are lost when scrolling down in a long message.

    4) Bottom line ("Area: xxx % Current: xx High: xx |clock" not showing

    5) On XP -- no difference noticed at all between timed.exe, tim386.exe,
    and
    timednt.exe

    More to come, I suspect -- but I sure appreciate being able to use timed locally again!!



    Cheers... Dallas



    Cheers... Dallas

    6) Double signatures.


    ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Feb 21 09:01:46 2018

    On 2018 Feb 21 08:40:42, you wrote to Dallas Hinton:

    6) Double signatures.

    that's because he edited the message... not sure if he's using the internal editor or an external one... it can make a difference because either one can be
    set to add a signature...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Disassembler: An unattended 5 year old child.
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    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Feb 21 07:39:53 2018
    Hi Wilfred -- on Feb 21 2018 at 08:40, you wrote:

    6) Double signatures.


    Thanks - that was MY fault - I copied and pasted badly!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Thu Feb 22 10:45:00 2018
    On Tue 2018-02-20 22:32, Dallas Hinton (1:153/7715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    Windows 10 64 bit. Timednt exe but everything else left exactly
    as the way I use it with the old Timed (although I used to run it
    on XP).

    1) Full screen window -- the index of message areas looks like a
    3/4 size window within the main window. It returns to full screen
    when a message is opened or edited.

    Yes, this is expected behaviour. The width of the arealist window is hardcoded for some reason. This could be seen in the OS/2 version of timEd 1.10, when the
    Command Prompt window was set to be wider than the 80 column default (eg. with "mode 110,35").

    I don't consider it a bug, but I'll look into having timEd use the entire window, because it does look odd.

    2) Control-End does not jump to the last message in an area.

    OK. I guessed there might still be some leftover key translation problems with the Windows version. I'll look into it.

    3) Headers (to, from etc) are lost when scrolling down in a long
    message.

    4) Bottom line ("Area: xxx % Current: xx High: xx |clock" not
    showing

    5) On XP -- no difference noticed at all between timed.exe,
    tim386.exe, and timednt.exe

    I can't reproduce #3 or #4 in Windows 7.

    A screenshot would be handy.

    Given you say the problem doesn't exist in XP, I'm assuming the Windows 10 Command Prompt window is behaving differently. I must admit I haven't tested timEd 1.12 in Windows 10 yet. I'll have a look.

    More to come, I suspect -- but I sure appreciate being able to use timed locally again!!

    I was wondering what you meant until I remembered 64-bit Windows 10 won't run DOS programs any more.

    At least not without DOSBox, or vDosPlus.

    Regards
    Andrew

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Thu Feb 22 11:01:01 2018
    On Tue 2018-02-20 23:24, Dallas Hinton (1:153/715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    F1 (help) does nothing!!

    Odd. It works in Windows 7.

    https://imgur.com/a/nsLeb

    Does F4 (duplicate line) work?

    Or F10 (save menu).

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to andrew clarke on Wed Feb 21 23:33:06 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 22 2018 at 10:45, you wrote:

    I don't consider it a bug, but I'll look into having timEd use the
    entire window, because it does look odd.

    Thanks!

    2) Control-End does not jump to the last message in an area.
    OK. I guessed there might still be some leftover key translation
    problems with the Windows version. I'll look into it.

    In your spare time! :-)

    A screenshot would be handy.

    Coming.... got an email, or dropbox, or ..... dhinton@shaw.ca

    At least not without DOSBox, or vDosPlus.

    I used to use VMWare with an XP, but now I just vnc to my XP box! :-)

    BTW, I'm using the old q-edit (TSE32) as an editor....

    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to andrew clarke on Wed Feb 21 23:31:41 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 22 2018 at 11:01, you wrote:


    F1 (help) does nothing!!
    Odd. It works in Windows 7.

    That's the call from TimEd for help

    Does F4 (duplicate line) work?

    Or F10 (save menu).

    Yes, but that's within my TSE32 editor. I've not tried TimEd's native editor.



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Thu Feb 22 20:00:00 2018
    On Wed 2018-02-21 23:33, Dallas Hinton (1:153/715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    2) Control-End does not jump to the last message in an area.

    OK. I guessed there might still be some leftover key translation
    problems with the Windows version. I'll look into it.

    In your spare time! :-)

    This is fixed in timEd 1.30, which I've just released.

    1.12 was very short-lived :-)

    A screenshot would be handy.

    Coming.... got an email, or dropbox, or ..... dhinton@shaw.ca

    mail@ozzmosis.com

    But first see the notes about using timEd 1.30 in Windows 10.

    BTW, I'm using the old q-edit (TSE32) as an editor....

    Ah, I've not used it.

    I'm just using the internal editor.

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Thu Feb 22 20:03:01 2018
    On Wed 2018-02-21 23:31, Dallas Hinton (1:153/715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    F1 (help) does nothing!!

    Odd. It works in Windows 7.

    That's the call from TimEd for help

    Yes, F1 works here outside the editor.

    Does F4 (duplicate line) work?
    Or F10 (save menu).

    Yes, but that's within my TSE32 editor. I've not tried TimEd's
    native editor.

    OK, I assumed you meant the internal editor.

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Thu Feb 22 06:37:11 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 22 2018 at 20:00, you wrote:

    But first see the notes about using timEd 1.30 in Windows 10.

    That's working just fine!!

    BTW, I'm using the old q-edit (TSE32) as an editor....

    Ah, I've not used it.

    I'm just using the internal editor.

    I've been using TSE since it's inception in DOS - I don't think I could learn a
    different editor now!!



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Thu Feb 22 06:39:18 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 22 2018 at 20:03, you wrote:


    Yes, F1 works here outside the editor.

    Not in W 10, it would seem.



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)