• Announcing timEd 1.12!

    From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to All on Wed Feb 21 12:38:00 2018
    Hi everyone,

    Over the past couple of months I've spent considerable free time working on rebuilding the original timEd sources using OpenWatcom 1.9 and getting it to a point where it can be released as a new version.

    Existing users of timEd 1.10 may want to migrate to 1.12.

    In particular, Windows users currently using the DOS version might want to consider using the new native Windows version.

    New users are of course also welcome to try it out.

    If so, please provide me with any feedback!


    Announcing the release of timEd version 1.12!

    timEd is a reliable and fast message editor for FidoNet,
    written by Gerard van Essen. It supports JAM, Squish,
    Hudson and *.MSG message bases.

    Added to this basis are many useful functions like nodelist
    browsing, redefinable keys and macros, character translation,
    support for encryption and spellchecking and many other things.

    However, timEd is still a fast no-nonsense editor, giving you
    speed and reliablity as it's major 'features'!

    Note 1.12 is a "refreshed" version of timEd 1.10.

    Version 7 nodelist lookup support has been removed from version 1.12 due to licensing issues, but otherwise the program is fully-functional.

    After many years, a 32-bit Windows NT version of timEd is now available.

    Also, many Y2K bugs have been fixed since the 1.10 release.

    The new version may be downloaded from here:

    DOS version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112.zip
    Windows NT version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112n.zip
    OS/2 version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112p.zip
    DOS/386 version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112x.zip

    The source code to this release is available on GitHub:

    https://github.com/zoomosis/artware


    timEd change log
    ================

    1.12
    ----

    * Version 1.12 released. This is considered a "refresh" release built
    using OpenWatcom 1.9 and aside from the removal of V7 nodelist lookup
    functionality (see below) should be feature-identical to the 1.10 version.

    This version is built from a different code branch from the UNIX version,
    1.11.

    It is intended the branches will be merged in a future release, adding new
    features from the UNIX version, and JAM and Hudson support to the UNIX
    version.

    * Numerous Y2K bugs were fixed in the source code, with thanks to Wilfried
    Brinkmann and Tobias Ernst for their initial work with patching the timEd
    binaries back in 1999 (ARTFIX07.ZIP).

    * Windows NT port. Gerard van Essen began porting timEd to Windows NT in
    1996 but the code was abandoned and incomplete. In 2018 the Windows NT
    port was finally completed by Andrew Clarke and is considered to be
    quite stable and usable.

    * Fixes to prevent crashes when screen width is greater than 132 columns.

    * timED did not add additional '>'s to quoted messages. Fixed, thanks to
    Meikel Brandmeyer.

    * Added %mmon variable for HELLO, REPHELLO, FOLLOWHELLO strings. It expands
    to a two-digit month with a leading zero digit (ie. 01-12).

    * V7 nodelist lookup is currently disabled.

    The V7 lookup functions requires the Mix C Database Toolchest, a
    commercial library which cannot be distributed as open source.

    It is still possible to do nodelist lookups on FidoUser or FrontDoor
    format nodelists.

    Any reference to V7 nodelists in TIMED.DOC is currently erroneous and
    should be ignored.

    It is hoped to reintroduced this functionality in a later version.

    * timEd is now permanently "registered", and will declare itself registered
    with the name specified in TIMED.CFG.

    * timEd's version number and build timestamp can now be viewed by running
    timEd with the -v parameter:

    TIMED.EXE -v


    Regards
    Andrew

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: Blizzard of Ozz, Melbourne, Australia (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to andrew clarke on Tue Feb 20 21:44:59 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 21 2018 at 12:38, you wrote:

    Existing users of timEd 1.10 may want to migrate to 1.12.

    I'd be delighted!!! We (my wife and I) were on Gerard's beta team and managed to break it several times--we'll be pleased to try again!!

    Note 1.12 is a "refreshed" version of timEd 1.10.

    Version 7 nodelist lookup support has been removed from version 1.12
    due to licensing issues, but otherwise the program is
    fully-functional.

    After many years, a 32-bit Windows NT version of timEd is now
    available.

    Also, many Y2K bugs have been fixed since the 1.10 release.

    The new version may be downloaded from here:

    DOS version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112.zip
    Windows NT version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112n.zip OS/2
    version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112p.zip DOS/386
    version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112x.zip

    The source code to this release is available on GitHub:

    https://github.com/zoomosis/artware


    timEd change log
    ================

    1.12
    ----

    * Version 1.12 released. This is considered a "refresh" release
    built using OpenWatcom 1.9 and aside from the removal of V7
    nodelist lookup functionality (see below) should be
    feature-identical to the 1.10 version.

    This version is built from a different code branch from the UNIX
    version, 1.11.

    It is intended the branches will be merged in a future release,
    adding new features from the UNIX version, and JAM and Hudson
    support to the UNIX version.

    * Numerous Y2K bugs were fixed in the source code, with thanks to
    Wilfried Brinkmann and Tobias Ernst for their initial work with
    patching the timEd binaries back in 1999 (ARTFIX07.ZIP).

    * Windows NT port. Gerard van Essen began porting timEd to Windows
    NT in 1996 but the code was abandoned and incomplete. In 2018 the
    Windows NT port was finally completed by Andrew Clarke and is
    considered to be quite stable and usable.

    * Fixes to prevent crashes when screen width is greater than 132
    columns.

    * timED did not add additional '>'s to quoted messages. Fixed,
    thanks to Meikel Brandmeyer.

    * Added %mmon variable for HELLO, REPHELLO, FOLLOWHELLO strings. It
    expands to a two-digit month with a leading zero digit (ie.
    01-12).

    * V7 nodelist lookup is currently disabled.

    The V7 lookup functions requires the Mix C Database Toolchest, a commercial library which cannot be distributed as open source.

    It is still possible to do nodelist lookups on FidoUser or
    FrontDoor format nodelists.

    Any reference to V7 nodelists in TIMED.DOC is currently erroneous
    and should be ignored.

    It is hoped to reintroduced this functionality in a later version.

    * timEd is now permanently "registered", and will declare itself
    registered with the name specified in TIMED.CFG.

    * timEd's version number and build timestamp can now be viewed by
    running timEd with the -v parameter:

    TIMED.EXE -v


    Regards
    Andrew

    ___ timEd/NT 1.12+
    - Origin: Blizzard of Ozz, Melbourne, Australia (3:633/267.1)
    @EEN-BY: 116/116 123/25 120 141 150 135/300 138/146 153/105 250 757 7715 @EEN-BY: 154/10 20 30 40 700 203/0 221/0 6 227/400 229/426 261/38 280/464 @EEN-BY: 280/5003 340/800 342/11 423/120 633/267 280 640/384 712/620 848 @EEN-BY: 770/1 2320/100 3634/12 15 22 27 50
    @ATH: 633/267 712/848 280/464 154/10 3634/12 153/7715



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to andrew clarke on Tue Feb 20 21:55:46 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 21 2018 at 12:38, you wrote:

    If so, please provide me with any feedback!

    Windows 10 64 bit. Timednt exe but everything else left exactly as the way I use it with the old Timed.

    1) Full screen window -- the index of message areas looks like a 3/4 size window within the main window. It returns to full screen when a message is opened or edited.

    2) Control-End does not jump to the last message in an area.

    3) Headers (to, from etc) are lost when scrolling down in a long message.

    More to come, I suspect -- but I sure appreciate being able to use timed locally again!!



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/715)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to andrew clarke on Wed Feb 21 09:00:36 2018

    On 2018 Feb 21 12:38:00, you wrote to All:

    * timED did not add additional '>'s to quoted messages. Fixed, thanks to
    Meikel Brandmeyer.

    you realize that this was not a bug, right? it was supposed to act this way ;)

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... More "white trash" end of the cooking scale than plantation owner.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to andrew clarke on Wed Feb 21 14:56:25 2018
    andrew clarke wrote in a message to All:

    Announcing the release of timEd version 1.12!

    timEd is a reliable and fast message editor for FidoNet,
    written by Gerard van Essen. It supports JAM, Squish,
    Hudson and *.MSG message bases.

    Added to this basis are many useful functions like nodelist
    browsing, redefinable keys and macros, character translation,
    support for encryption and spellchecking and many other things.

    However, timEd is still a fast no-nonsense editor, giving you
    speed and reliablity as it's major 'features'!

    Note 1.12 is a "refreshed" version of timEd 1.10.

    Version 7 nodelist lookup support has been removed from version
    1.12 due to licensing issues, but otherwise the program is fully-functional.

    After many years, a 32-bit Windows NT version of timEd is now
    available.

    Also, many Y2K bugs have been fixed since the 1.10 release.

    The new version may be downloaded from here:

    DOS version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112.zip
    Windows NT version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112n.zip OS/2
    version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112p.zip DOS/386
    version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim112x.zip

    The source code to this release is available on GitHub:

    https://github.com/zoomosis/artware

    The OS/2 version cannot read a fastecho.cfg. The timkeys.cfg is also missing from the archive; I had to extract it from the DOS/386 version.

    The DOS/386 version seems to run, but the message scan is very slow.

    Regards,

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * bnbbbs.net (1:320/119)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Andrew Leary on Thu Feb 22 11:06:02 2018
    On Wed 2018-02-21 14:56, Andrew Leary (1:320/119) wrote to andrew clarke:

    The OS/2 version cannot read a fastecho.cfg.

    Ah. I expected there would still be some issues with structure alignment with some tosser's config files.

    I'll look into it.

    I assume you're using FastEcho 1.46.1.

    The timkeys.cfg is also missing from the archive; I had to extract
    it from the DOS/386 version.

    Oh, nuts! I forgot to include timkeys.cfg in the distfiles!

    The DOS/386 version seems to run, but the message scan is very slow.

    Is it slower than the 1.10 DOS/386 version?

    --- timEd/NT 1.12+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to andrew clarke on Thu Feb 22 02:59:32 2018
    Hello andrew!

    Thursday February 22 2018 11:06, andrew clarke wrote to Andrew Leary:

    The OS/2 version cannot read a fastecho.cfg.

    Ah. I expected there would still be some issues with structure
    alignment with some tosser's config files.

    I'll look into it.

    I assume you're using FastEcho 1.46.1.

    Correct.

    The timkeys.cfg is also missing from the archive; I had to
    extract it from the DOS/386 version.

    Oh, nuts! I forgot to include timkeys.cfg in the distfiles!

    I grabbed it from the 1.10 DOS/386 version and it seemed to work.

    The DOS/386 version seems to run, but the message scan is very
    slow.

    Is it slower than the 1.10 DOS/386 version?

    No, it doesn't seem to be.

    Andrew

    ---
    * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS * V.Everything! * 860/503-8857 (1:320/119)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to All on Thu Feb 22 19:52:00 2018
    Hot on the heels of timEd 1.12...

    Announcing the release of timEd version 1.30!

    The new version may be downloaded from here:

    DOS version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim130.zip
    Windows NT version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim130n.zip
    OS/2 version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim130p.zip
    DOS/386 version: http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim130x.zip

    The source code to this release is available on GitHub:

    https://github.com/zoomosis/artware


    timEd change log
    ================

    1.30
    ----

    * TIMKEYS.CFG, READMAPS.DAT and WRITMAPS.DAT were missing from the
    distribution archives and are now included.

    * FastEcho configuration files are read correctly.

    * Ctrl+Home and Ctrl+End keys now work in the Windows version. In Windows 10
    you will need to disable "Enable Ctrl key shortcuts" in the Properties
    window of the shortcut to TIMEDNT.EXE.

    * Added config file option "ArealistWraparound" to allow the selection bar
    to wrap around when scrolling the area list. The default is off. To enable
    it, put "ArealistWraparound Yes" in TIMED.CFG.

    * timEd can now use a raw FidoNet nodelist to do name lookups when writing
    netmail, using the config file option "FidoNodelist".

    Wildcards can be used in the pathname:

    FidoNodelist c:\nodelist\nodelist.*

    You may only specify a single nodelist.

    Raw nodelist may also be unacceptably slow on older PCs.

    If you specify both FidoUser and FidoNodelist in timed.cfg, FidoNodelist
    will be used.

    * Fixed the Windows version where the text cursor was still visible when
    it wasn't supposed to be.

    * Windows and OS/2 icons are now included.

    * Copyright notices now display the correct year.


    Regards
    Andrew

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: Blizzard of Ozz, Melbourne, Australia (3:633/267.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Andrew Leary on Thu Feb 22 20:26:02 2018
    On Thu 2018-02-22 02:59, Andrew Leary (1:320/119) wrote to andrew clarke:

    The OS/2 version cannot read a fastecho.cfg.

    Ah. I expected there would still be some issues with structure
    alignment with some tosser's config files.

    I'll look into it.

    This is fixed in timEd 1.30. Tested with FastEcho 1.46.1.

    The timkeys.cfg is also missing from the archive; I had to
    extract it from the DOS/386 version.

    Oh, nuts! I forgot to include timkeys.cfg in the distfiles!

    I grabbed it from the 1.10 DOS/386 version and it seemed to work.

    This is also fixed in the 1.30 release. :)

    The DOS/386 version seems to run, but the message scan is very
    slow.

    Is it slower than the 1.10 DOS/386 version?

    No, it doesn't seem to be.

    Ah, then I'm inclined to leave it alone.

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to All on Thu Feb 22 20:32:03 2018
    On Thu 2018-02-22 19:52, andrew clarke (3:633/267.1) wrote to All:

    timEd change log
    ================

    1.30
    ----

    I forgot to add:

    * Fixed a bug introduced in timEd 1.12 where newlines weren't being added
    properly to quoted text.

    Regards
    Andrew

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sat Feb 24 15:19:44 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 21 2018 at 12:38, you wrote:

    If so, please provide me with any feedback!

    Currently running 1.3 -- I've a request for a behaviour change, please:

    When you open an area that has no messages, neither right arrow nor enter will get you out of that area. Only Escape works to get you back to the master list.
    I love to be able to just right arrow to the next area with messages!

    Thanks!!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Sun Feb 25 14:18:00 2018
    On Sat 2018-02-24 15:19, Dallas Hinton (1:153/7715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    Currently running 1.3 -- I've a request for a behaviour change, please:

    When you open an area that has no messages, neither right arrow
    nor enter will get you out of that area. Only Escape works to get
    you back to the master list.
    I love to be able to just right arrow to the next area with messages!

    I agree, it should look and work more like the "End of messages in this area!" message.

    I'll have a look. :)

    --- timEd/NT 1.31+
    * Origin: X (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sat Feb 24 20:17:57 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 25 2018 at 14:18, you wrote:

    I agree, it should look and work more like the "End of messages in
    this area!" message.

    I'll have a look. :)

    Thanks -- I'm only thinking of you and trying to prevent boredom for you! :-)


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Sun Feb 25 15:52:00 2018
    On Sat 2018-02-24 20:17, Dallas Hinton (1:153/7715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    Thanks -- I'm only thinking of you and trying to prevent boredom
    for you! :-)

    Of course! :)

    Try this:

    http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim131g1n.zip

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g1+
    * Origin: timEd Development HQ (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sat Feb 24 23:11:30 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 25 2018 at 15:52, you wrote:

    http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim131g1n.zip

    Lovely -- works just the way it should! Many thanks!!!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g1+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Sun Feb 25 21:08:00 2018
    On Sat 2018-02-24 23:11, Dallas Hinton (1:153/7715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    http://dl.ozzmosis.com/timed/tim131g1n.zip

    Lovely -- works just the way it should! Many thanks!!!

    Excellent!

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g1+
    * Origin: timEd Development HQ (3:633/267.1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sun Feb 25 05:05:06 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 25 2018 at 21:08, you wrote:

    Lovely -- works just the way it should! Many thanks!!!

    I spoke too soon -- when it scans for new mail from a new area it doesn't seem to stop at the mail with any consistency -- I'm not sure I can describe the behaviour - yet.


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g1+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Mon Feb 26 15:14:00 2018
    On Sun 2018-02-25 05:05, Dallas Hinton (1:153/7715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    Lovely -- works just the way it should! Many thanks!!!

    I spoke too soon -- when it scans for new mail from a new area it
    doesn't seem to stop at the mail with any consistency -- I'm not
    sure I can describe the behaviour - yet.

    Ah. I might not be able to do much about improving it as the code there is a bit of a maze.
    I encountered several crashes just trying to get it to work. :)

    But still, let me know if you can, so we can document it at the very least.

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g1+
    * Origin: timEd Development HQ (3:633/267.1)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to andrew clarke on Sun Feb 25 21:28:53 2018
    Re: Announcing timEd 1.12!
    By: andrew clarke to All on Wed Feb 21 2018 12:38 pm

    Over the past couple of months I've spent considerable free time working on rebuilding the original timEd sources using OpenWatcom 1.9 and getting it to a point where it can be released as a new version.

    That is very good news andrew, thank you for your work on this.

    The source code to this release is available on GitHub:

    https://github.com/zoomosis/artware

    I will be there shortly!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    ... All those updates, and still imperfect!
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC trmb.synchro.net (1:153/757)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sun Feb 25 22:15:48 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 26 2018 at 15:14, you wrote:

    Ah. I might not be able to do much about improving it as the code
    there is a bit of a maze.
    I encountered several crashes just trying to get it to work. :)

    But still, let me know if you can, so we can document it at the very
    least.

    If I use the old version, a "next" scan (+) stops on Artware, which is the first area with new traffic. If I use 1.3.1, the scan goes right past Artware and several others and stops almost at random on an area with new traffic (although it always stops there, so it's not actually random!)


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g1+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 26 21:47:00 2018
    On Sun 2018-02-25 21:28, Alan Ianson (1:153/757) wrote to andrew clarke:

    Over the past couple of months I've spent considerable free time
    working on rebuilding the original timEd sources using OpenWatcom
    1.9 and getting it to a point where it can be released as a new
    version.

    That is very good news andrew, thank you for your work on this.

    It's good to see there's still some interest.

    Getting Gerard's original code working (and not the UNIX port, which I didn't initiate but later became the maintainer of) is something I started working on years ago but abandoned because I kept hitting roadblocks.

    This time around I took a fresh approach and it's been working well.

    Oddly, I've had a few years break from doing pretty much any coding at all, which may have helped in a strange way.

    It was a nice feeling finishing off the NT port! Gerard actually had most of the Windows code written but some of it wasn't working correctly. For any coders reading this, most of that was down to structure misalignment.

    The source code to this release is available on GitHub:

    https://github.com/zoomosis/artware

    I will be there shortly!

    -+- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    + Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC trmb.synchro.net
    (1:153/757)

    Going by your tearline I'm assuming you're running Linux.

    I haven't tested it but the Windows version of timEd should work well under WINE, although console apps in WINE don't look the best and I'm not sure the user has any control over what display font it uses.

    In any case today I began porting the original code to BSD & Linux, without the
    XMSGAPI dependency that the old UNIX port had. This will mean the BSD & Linux version will finally support Hudson, JAM, Squish and *.MSG. Stay tuned. :)

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g2+
    * Origin: timEd Development HQ (3:633/267.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267.1 to Dallas Hinton on Mon Feb 26 22:12:01 2018
    On Sun 2018-02-25 22:15, Dallas Hinton (1:153/7715) wrote to andrew clarke:

    Ah. I might not be able to do much about improving it as the code
    there is a bit of a maze.
    I encountered several crashes just trying to get it to work. :)

    But still, let me know if you can, so we can document it at the very
    least.

    If I use the old version, a "next" scan (+) stops on Artware, which
    is the first area with new traffic. If I use 1.3.1, the scan goes
    right past Artware and several others and stops almost at random on
    an area with new traffic (although it always stops there, so it's
    not actually random!)

    OK, confirmed here.

    It's picking the wrong next area, but there seems to be a pattern to it in my testing. I just don't understand why yet.

    I've added that to the TODO list.

    --- timEd/NT 1.31.g2+
    * Origin: timEd Development HQ (3:633/267.1)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to andrew clarke on Mon Feb 26 04:02:24 2018
    Going by your tearline I'm assuming you're running Linux.

    Yes, I'm running under slackware here.

    I haven't tested it but the Windows version of timEd should work well under WINE, although console apps in WINE don't look the best and I'm
    not sure the user has any control over what display font it uses.

    I have not run wine in some time but I'm sure I could install it for a look.

    In any case today I began porting the original code to BSD & Linux, without the XMSGAPI dependency that the old UNIX port had. This will
    mean the BSD & Linux version will finally support Hudson, JAM, Squish
    and *.MSG. Stay tuned. :)

    Sounds good! Nice to see a native windows version for those folks who are running windows (most eveyone I think).

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Mon Feb 26 09:25:22 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 26 2018 at 22:12, you wrote:


    OK, confirmed here.

    It's picking the wrong next area, but there seems to be a pattern to
    it in my testing. I just don't understand why yet.

    Oh good, I've not lost my mind - at least, not this pat! :-)

    I'm going to drop back a version, since not missing is more important than the empty area fix! :-)



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From robert wolfe@1:116/18 to andrew clarke on Tue Feb 27 14:42:07 2018
    andrew clarke wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

    On Wed 2018-02-21 14:56, Andrew Leary (1:320/119) wrote to andrew
    clarke:

    The OS/2 version cannot read a fastecho.cfg.

    Ah. I expected there would still be some issues with structure
    alignment with some tosser's config files.

    I'll look into it.

    I assume you're using FastEcho 1.46.1.

    I am having the same issue here. FE/2 1.46.1 under ArcaOS 5.0.2.

    ... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
    ___ MultiMail/OS/2 v0.50

    --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A39 2018/02/06 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: OTheta Mystic * onramp.os2bbs.org * Southaven, MS (1:116/18)
  • From Rick Christian@1:135/377 to Alan Ianson on Sun Mar 4 04:43:02 2018

    Hello Alan!

    26 Feb 18 04:02, you wrote to andrew clarke:
    are running windows (most eveyone I think).

    au contraire mon frere, Have not used that in 20 years, work or peronsally. Don't touch it.


    Rick


    ... NOprah!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20161221
    * Origin: Vina's Talos Moon Base Alpha (1:135/377)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sat Mar 31 16:28:01 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Feb 22 2018 at 19:52, you wrote:

    Wildcards can be used in the pathname:

    FidoNodelist c:\nodelist\nodelist.*

    You may only specify a single nodelist.

    I'm unable to persuade TimedNT to read z:\nodelist\nodelist.* -- on a different
    network computer. I'm just going to test and see if it will read locally.

    And no, that makes no difference either :-(

    Windows 10 64 bit, btw.

    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267 to Dallas Hinton on Wed May 23 05:17:24 2018
    31 Mar 18 16:28, you wrote to me:

    Hi andrew -- on Feb 22 2018 at 19:52, you wrote:

    Wildcards can be used in the pathname:

    FidoNodelist c:\nodelist\nodelist.*

    You may only specify a single nodelist.

    I'm unable to persuade TimedNT to read z:\nodelist\nodelist.* -- on a different network computer. I'm just going to test and see if it will
    read locally.

    And no, that makes no difference either :-(

    Windows 10 64 bit, btw.

    I'm unable to reproduce that behaviour here using timEd/NT 1.30 in Windows 7 64-bit.

    Tested using the latest Zone 3 nodelist (nodelist.138), though any nodelist should work.

    File permission problem?

    Are there any error messages?

    eg.

    Could not match FidoNodelist pattern 'nodelist.*'!

    or:

    Can't open FidoNodelist file '\nodelist\nodelist.124'!

    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Blizzard of Ozz, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (3:633/267)
  • From Martin Foster@2:250/1.1 to andrew clarke on Sat Nov 3 13:12:00 2018
    Hello Andrew!

    On 22.02.18 at 19:52, andrew clarke wrote to All:

    [..]
    timEd change log
    ================

    1.30
    ----

    * TIMKEYS.CFG, READMAPS.DAT and WRITMAPS.DAT were missing from the
    distribution archives and are now included.

    After installing, configuring and running the Windows version(on
    Win7), I'm getting a message telling me that 'timed.hlp' is missing
    when I press <F1>.

    However, I've dragged a copy out of the source and put it in my timEd directory but when I now press F1, nothing at all happens.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.34
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:250/1.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267 to Martin Foster on Sun Nov 4 03:10:30 2018
    Hi Martin,

    03 Nov 18 13:12, you wrote to me:

    timEd change log
    ================

    1.30
    ----

    * TIMKEYS.CFG, READMAPS.DAT and WRITMAPS.DAT were missing from the
    distribution archives and are now included.

    After installing, configuring and running the Windows version(on
    Win7), I'm getting a message telling me that 'timed.hlp' is missing
    when I press <F1>.

    Ah yes, I still left out the help file from the archives. :-(

    Downloading it from the source code on GitHub works, or from an earlier version
    of timEd.

    However, I've dragged a copy out of the source and put it in my timEd directory but when I now press F1, nothing at all happens.

    I can't replicate that here in Windows 7. It works for me.

    The code to display the help file is pretty simple and has reasonable error checking, so I can't even speculate as to what's wrong there.

    Anyone else having the same problem?

    Thanks.

    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Blizzard of Ozz, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (3:633/267)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to andrew clarke on Sat Nov 3 13:30:25 2018
    Hi andrew -- on Nov 04 2018 at 03:10, you wrote:

    The code to display the help file is pretty simple and has
    reasonable error checking, so I can't even speculate as to what's
    wrong there.

    Anyone else having the same problem?

    It works for me on w 10 64....I've no complaints at all (well, I do but not about timEd! :-) )

    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/NT 1.30+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Martin Foster@2:250/1.1 to andrew clarke on Sun Nov 4 11:43:00 2018
    Hello Andrew!

    On 04.11.18 at 03:10, andrew clarke wrote to Martin Foster:

    03 Nov 18 13:12, you wrote to me:

    timEd change log
    ================

    1.30
    ----

    * TIMKEYS.CFG, READMAPS.DAT and WRITMAPS.DAT were missing from the
    distribution archives and are now included.

    After installing, configuring and running the Windows version(on
    Win7), I'm getting a message telling me that 'timed.hlp' is missing
    when I press <F1>.

    Ah yes, I still left out the help file from the archives. :-(

    Tut-tut! ;-)

    Downloading it from the source code on GitHub works, or from an earlier version of timEd.

    I've grabbed a copy of 1.12 but it's not in there either.

    However, I've dragged a copy out of the source and put it in my timEd
    directory but when I now press F1, nothing at all happens.

    I can't replicate that here in Windows 7. It works for me.

    OK and as I notice that someone else can't replicate it either, it
    looks like the problem is somewhere on my system but what it is, I
    really can't imagine??

    I notice there's what appears to be a compiled version of the help
    compiler included in the source, along with the source for the help
    file. So, I thought I'd try and be clever<grin> and compile the help
    file myself to see if that solved the problem. Not possible because
    the help compiler(hlpcomp.exe) is 16-Bit and obviously won't run on
    64-Bit Windows. A 32-Bit version would be nice, thank you very much ;)

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.34
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:250/1.1)
  • From Martin Foster@2:250/1.1 to andrew clarke on Tue Nov 6 09:29:00 2018
    Hello Andrew!

    On 04.11.18 at 03:10, andrew clarke wrote to Martin Foster:

    03 Nov 18 13:12, you wrote to me:

    timEd change log
    ================

    1.30
    ----

    * TIMKEYS.CFG, READMAPS.DAT and WRITMAPS.DAT were missing from the
    distribution archives and are now included.

    After installing, configuring and running the Windows version(on
    Win7), I'm getting a message telling me that 'timed.hlp' is missing
    when I press <F1>.

    Ah yes, I still left out the help file from the archives. :-(

    Downloading it from the source code on GitHub works, or from an earlier version of timEd.

    However, I've dragged a copy out of the source and put it in my timEd
    directory but when I now press F1, nothing at all happens.

    I can't replicate that here in Windows 7. It works for me.

    Further to my previous post about this, I've discovered that it
    depends on a combination of "Screen Buffer Size" and "Window Size" in
    my Win7 console along with the "Startup_Lines" setting in "timed.cfg"
    as to whether the online help displays or not.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.34
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:250/1.1)
  • From andrew clarke@3:633/267 to Martin Foster on Sat Nov 10 00:12:12 2018
    06 Nov 18 09:29, you wrote to me:

    However, I've dragged a copy out of the source and put it in my
    timEd directory but when I now press F1, nothing at all happens.

    I can't replicate that here in Windows 7. It works for me.

    Further to my previous post about this, I've discovered that it
    depends on a combination of "Screen Buffer Size" and "Window Size" in
    my Win7 console along with the "Startup_Lines" setting in "timed.cfg"
    as to whether the online help displays or not.

    Ah. My guess is the help file is being displayed but is off-screen. There are similar issues running the NT version of timEd in Windows 10 if the screen buffer isn't setup correctly. Other fullscreen text mode apps will have similar
    problems. IIRC there was an earlier thread about this.

    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Blizzard of Ozz, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (3:633/267)