• Help with amibinkd?

    From Tim Grooms@1:19/33 to All on Wed Jun 6 23:58:40 2018
    Hi all,
    I have recently put my Excelsior! BBS back online and am trying to get Fidonet going with it again thru the internet. The bbs is working fine with telnetd.device and accepting calls on port 6400. I am trying to get amibinkd set up to receive mail. I can poll my boss with it to send and pick up netmail and echomail but the boss has not been able to make contact with my BBS. I know amibinkd works through port 24554 and I have this port open on my router as i do port 6400 for calls to the BBS.

    Is this all I need to do besides running amibinkd as a server?
    I'm not sure if there is some other place I need to open the port in
    the software?

    Does anyone have experience using the Amiga version? Any help would be gratly greatly appreciated!

    Tim
    CIA Amiga BBS
    ciaamigabbs.dynu.net:6400
    1:19/38
    --- SBBSecho 3.04-Win32
    * Origin: FIDONet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org (1:19/33)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tim Grooms on Thu Jun 7 10:43:38 2018
    Hi Tim,

    On 2018-06-06 23:58:40, you wrote to All:

    I have recently put my Excelsior! BBS back online and am trying to get Fidonet going with it again thru the internet. The bbs is working
    fine with telnetd.device and accepting calls on port 6400. I am
    trying to get amibinkd set up to receive mail. I can poll my boss
    with it to send and pick up netmail and echomail but the boss has not
    been able to make contact with my BBS. I know amibinkd works through
    port 24554 and I have this port open on my router as i do port 6400
    for calls to the BBS.

    Is this all I need to do besides running amibinkd as a server?
    I'm not sure if there is some other place I need to open the port in
    the software?

    Does anyone have experience using the Amiga version? Any help would be gratly greatly appreciated!

    Tim
    CIA Amiga BBS
    ciaamigabbs.dynu.net:6400

    There is nothing there to connect to:

    # nmap -p binkp,6400 ciaamigabbs.dynu.net

    Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2018-06-07 10:41 CEST
    Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn
    Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.32 seconds

    # nmap ciaamigabbs.dynu.net

    Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2018-06-07 10:42 CEST
    Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn
    Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.08 seconds

    # nmap -p binkp,6400 -Pn ciaamigabbs.dynu.net

    Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2018-06-07 10:42 CEST
    Nmap scan report for ciaamigabbs.dynu.net (24.35.140.8)
    Host is up.
    rDNS record for 24.35.140.8: 24-35-140-8.fidnet.com
    PORT STATE SERVICE
    6400/tcp filtered crystalreports
    24554/tcp filtered binkp

    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.30 seconds



    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Tim Grooms on Sun Jun 10 10:18:12 2018
    Yes that is all you need to do. Open 24554 (TCP) in your firewall/router/whatever and point it with a port forward to your Amiga and the
    same port.

    Beware, however - Amibinkd will crash regurarely and take the entire system with it no matter how big of a stack you give it.


    --- NiKom v2.4.0
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Joacim Melin on Sun Jun 10 15:18:10 2018
    Hello Joacim!

    10 Jun 2018 10:18, Joacim Melin wrote to Tim Grooms:

    Yes that is all you need to do. Open 24554 (TCP) in your firewall/router/whatever and point it with a port forward to your
    Amiga and the same port.

    +1

    Beware, however - Amibinkd will crash regurarely and take the entire system with it no matter how big of a stack you give it.

    time to see the source

    trapdoor + telser.device works with emsi

    so seeking for a emsi node to connect to is the next step

    possible rewrite trapdoor to support binkp ?, uhm swiss chokolate :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Jun 11 19:51:36 2018
    Amibinkd is as most of us know a hack - it's a rewrite of Binkd which never got
    done. The source was never published.


    --- NiKom v2.4.0
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Joacim Melin on Tue Jun 12 19:18:30 2018
    Hello Joacim!

    11 Jun 2018 19:51, Joacim Melin wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Amibinkd is as most of us know a hack - it's a rewrite of Binkd which never got done. The source was never published.

    it should have being made in arexx


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.0-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Tim Grooms@1:120/601 to Benny Pedersen on Wed Jun 13 09:56:14 2018
    I guess I'm going to give up on amibinkd. I can poll with it and receive netmail and echomail ok but every time someone tries to connect to my BBS via Fido the machine resets itself. The port is open and the bbs machine never reset until i started running amibinkd as a server.

    Does anyone have a working example trapdoor.cfg file that shows how to use telnetd.device instead of a modem.
    Thanks.
    --- SBBSecho 3.01-Win32
    * Origin: Two Dudes BBS | bbs.twodudesmedia.com | (1:120/601)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Tim Grooms on Wed Jun 13 21:01:30 2018
    Hello Tim!

    13 Jun 2018 09:56, Tim Grooms wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    I guess I'm going to give up on amibinkd.

    can it be used as a poll only client and still stable ?

    I can poll with it and receive netmail and echomail ok but every time
    someone tries to connect to my
    BBS via Fido the machine resets itself.

    wonderfull debug that program needs, author is not on fidonet anymore ?

    The port is open and the bbs machine
    never reset until i started running amibinkd as a server.

    good that its stable as client atlest

    i came to think :)

    can you start amibinkd as server from telnet ?

    Does anyone have a working example trapdoor.cfg file that shows how to use telnetd.device instead of a modem.

    its imho more that trapdoor does NOT resolve phonefield in traplist to ip number that is the biggest problem

    eg you need to update traplist each time before calling with trapdoor so its up2date from hostname to dns ip, and trapdoor only supports ipv4, with all this
    in mind its working if phone number is translated to ip in traplist


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.1-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Jun 18 16:43:46 2018
    Feel free to do it! :)


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    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Tim Grooms on Mon Jun 18 16:44:17 2018
    You can make Amibinkd stay stable for a few days if you give it enough stack but it will crash eventually.

    I have a trapdoor.cfg but I haven't started to mess around with telnetd.device yet. I will soon, though.


    --- NiKom v2.4.0
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Joacim Melin on Sun Jun 24 09:00:02 2018
    Hello Joacim!

    18 Jun 2018 16:43, Joacim Melin wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Feel free to do it! :)

    i will possible if amiatlon is with me


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.2-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Joacim Melin on Sun Jun 24 09:01:30 2018
    Hello Joacim!

    18 Jun 2018 16:44, Joacim Melin wrote to Tim Grooms:

    You can make Amibinkd stay stable for a few days if you give it enough stack but it will crash eventually.
    I have a trapdoor.cfg but I haven't started to mess around with telnetd.device yet. I will soon, though.

    if that fails we would possible do a AREXX binkp dialer entirely writed in REXX
    on amiga, so if there is bugs in first version other amiga users can help solve
    it


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.2-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Tim Grooms@1:19/33 to Joacim Melin on Fri Jun 29 00:25:54 2018
    Re: Re: Help with amibinkd?
    By: Joacim Melin to Tim Grooms on Mon Jun 18 2018 04:44 pm

    You can make Amibinkd stay stable for a few days if you give it enough stack but it will crash eventually.

    I have a trapdoor.cfg but I haven't started to mess around with telnetd.devi yet. I will soon, though.


    Amibinkd is polling fine for me, picking up echos and sending netmail messages.
    Running amibinkd as a server with the -s switch is not working right and my main problem is XMAIL for Excelsior is not picking up my outgoing messages the echos I am carrying. For some reason it is ignoring them. Outgoing netmail is fine. I've got my outgoing echo mail set to go to my boss at 1:19/0 but when I run XMAIL outbound, it never picks anything up.

    Tried all I can think of to get it to process it but no luck. Maybe it's in my routing, not sure.
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    * Origin: FIDONet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org (1:19/33)
  • From Tim Grooms@1:120/601 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Jul 12 10:41:52 2018
    I now believe it is a Y2K problem with the BBS software itself. Only in Echomail areas. When I post an outgoing echomail, the date shows up as 118 instead of 18. This only happens in the echomail areas. Netmail shows 18 as it should and is processed by XMAIL and sent out.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get in touch with the owners of Excelsior? I have tried every link and email address I could find with no luck.
    --- SBBSecho 3.01-Win32
    * Origin: Two Dudes BBS | bbs.twodudesmedia.com | (1:120/601)
  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to Tim Grooms on Thu Jul 12 19:10:57 2018
    On 07/12/18, Tim Grooms said the following...
    I now believe it is a Y2K problem with the BBS software itself. Only in Echomail areas. When I post an outgoing echomail, the date shows up as

    Does anyone have any idea how to get in touch with the owners of Excelsior? I have tried every link and email address I could find with

    Hi Tim, I was talking to another sysOp of a E! board and he too feels his issues with the system are Y2K issues.. If he doesn't log on to the BBS after reboot it locks up and just sits there when someone dials in. He also
    mentioned some other things too. No one seems to be able to get in touch with anyone related to the programming of E! I would love to see a update to fix some of the bugs found I am in the process of adding a second BBS to my
    system and that BBS will be an E! board as I ran one back in the 90's but if things don't work right easily I will just spend the $$$ and buy the CNet Pro board and not have any issues with it..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number ][ BBS (1:267/157)
  • From Tim Grooms@1:19/33 to Al DeRosa on Thu Jul 19 09:09:49 2018
    Re: Re: Help with amibinkd?
    By: Al DeRosa to Tim Grooms on Thu Jul 12 2018 07:10 pm

    On 07/12/18, Tim Grooms said the following...
    I now believe it is a Y2K problem with the BBS software itself. Only i Echomail areas. When I post an outgoing echomail, the date shows up as

    Does anyone have any idea how to get in touch with the owners of Excelsior? I have tried every link and email address I could find with

    Hi Tim, I was talking to another sysOp of a E! board and he too feels his issues with the system are Y2K issues.. If he doesn't log on to the BBS afte reboot it locks up and just sits there when someone dials in. He also mentioned some other things too. No one seems to be able to get in touch wit anyone related to the programming of E! I would love to see a update to fix some of the bugs found I am in the process of adding a second BBS to my system and that BBS will be an E! board as I ran one back in the 90's but if things don't work right easily I will just spend the $$$ and buy the CNet Pr board and not have any issues with it..

    Hi Al,
    I think that Sysop of the E! board you were talking to is me ha! I run CIA Amiga BBS and have all the Excelsior! stuff I could find posted there for others to download. Haven't been able to get in touch with any of the three owners. I'm sure the fix would be easy if we just had the source code. May have to move on to something else myself because I want to be able to carry Fidonet Retronet and some of the others as well as get some of the better doors up and going. Very hard to find anything for Excelsior! anymore. None ofthe links on the support site work anymore.
    --- SBBSecho 3.05-Win32
    * Origin: FIDONet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org (1:19/33)
  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to Tim Grooms on Thu Jul 19 15:50:51 2018
    On 07/19/18, Tim Grooms said the following...


    Hi Tim, I was talking to another sysOp of a E! board and he too feels h issues with the system are Y2K issues.. If he doesn't log on to the BBS

    reboot it locks up and just sits there when someone dials in. He also


    Hi Al,
    I think that Sysop of the E! board you were talking to is me ha! I run CIA Amiga BBS and have all the Excelsior! stuff I could find posted
    there for others to download. Haven't been able to get in touch with

    Figures, I see you logged on my PC board today.. I will either log on your board tonight to leave you a message and also leave one on here.. Something
    you might want to consider.. It might be worth it.. I'll hit you in private..

    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number ][ BBS (1:267/157)
  • From Gary McCulloch@1:154/50 to Al Derosa on Mon Aug 13 20:40:03 2018
    This never seemed to work with my emulated system. I am using CNet's FTNFTP and TOSS for now. CNet will get better with FTN in the future!

    // CNet/5 SysOp: Gary McCulloch of Reign Of Fire BBS.
    \X/ JoinLink - RetroNet - AmigaNet - FidoNet .:CNet/5:.
    --- CNet/5
    * Origin: Reign Of Fire BBS: rofbbs.ddns.net:2300 1991-2018 (1:154/50)
  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to Gary McCulloch on Tue Aug 14 19:42:00 2018
    On 08/13/18, Gary McCulloch said the following...

    This never seemed to work with my emulated system. I am using CNet's FTNFTP and TOSS for now. CNet will get better with FTN in the future!


    Oh I am sure it will... binkD receives files fine, I just can't get the files that have to go out to toss then send.. I just tried setting up a FTP style
    but that is giving me grief too.. I think I am just going to hold off until I build my new Emulatory around AmigaDos4 this weekend. I will reinstall CNet, and set everything from scratch.. I had some good luck with Argus as a mailer and it looks like Dan from Future World II is using it also. That was the
    only mailer I was able to get to send files out.. So my plan will be once everything is set, I will try again.. :) Thanks...

    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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