• Uber Sued Over Lack of Ac

    From Jimmy Anderson@1:2320/100 to Hawke on Thu Oct 20 14:26:00 2016
    Hawke wrote to All <=-

    Uber Sued Over Lack Of Accessible Rides

    I'm all for equal rights, but having a PRIVATE service
    that doesn't do what you want - then suing them? I don't
    get it...

    I do computer work on the side - I also sing and play
    guitar. I prefer to work on laptops so I can take them
    home, etc. to work on them easier. If I choose not to
    'come to your home' and work on your desktop and printer
    should I be sued for that?


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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Oct 31 05:46:32 2016

    Hello Jimmy!

    20 Oct 16 14:25, you wrote to Hawke:

    I'm all for equal rights, but having a PRIVATE service
    that doesn't do what you want - then suing them? I don't
    get it...

    I can see their point being confied in a wheelchair. Transportation
    for wheelchair bound people isn't cheap. And often they don't have
    it to go very often. I have a friend who is fortunate enough
    to have an accessible Van, but I hear that's becoming a rare even.

    However she does do the Uber thing for disabled (she is in wheelchair
    can take on board a second person with a wheelchair if they can
    physically buckle the chair in.

    I do computer work on the side - I also sing and play
    guitar. I prefer to work on laptops so I can take them
    home, etc. to work on them easier. If I choose not to
    'come to your home' and work on your desktop and printer
    should I be sued for that?

    But are you suffering from a disability that keeps you from using your
    own equipment and you have to come to my home and use a braille printer?

    I can totally see the disabled's view on this... but I don't think that
    a service that involves other people helping people and making a little
    moolah on the side should be penalized.

    But they may find that ONE judge that will push the lawsuit through :-(

    Allen

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@1:2320/100 to Allen Prunty on Mon Oct 31 07:28:00 2016
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    I'm all for equal rights, but having a PRIVATE service
    that doesn't do what you want - then suing them? I don't
    get it...

    I can see their point being confied in a wheelchair. Transportation
    for wheelchair bound people isn't cheap. And often they don't have
    it to go very often. I have a friend who is fortunate enough
    to have an accessible Van, but I hear that's becoming a rare even.

    I see the NEED for it - what I don't see is a service like that being
    sued because they don't offer a particular service. They are not public
    access vehicles - they are privately owned vehicles that people are
    using themselves to make a little extra money. It's not taxpayers
    dollars or anything.

    I do computer work on the side - I also sing and play
    guitar. I prefer to work on laptops so I can take them
    home, etc. to work on them easier. If I choose not to
    'come to your home' and work on your desktop and printer
    should I be sued for that?

    But are you suffering from a disability that keeps you from using your
    own equipment and you have to come to my home and use a braille
    printer?

    Sorry, but I don't understand your question.

    My point is I have a 'side business' where I work on computers. If
    you have a laptop I can take it home and work on it and bring it
    back. If I choose to say, "no, I'm not driving an hour to your
    house and sitting there for five hours and driving an hour home"
    should I be sued?

    I can totally see the disabled's view on this... but I don't think that
    a service that involves other people helping people and making a little moolah on the side should be penalized.

    Agreed!

    But they may find that ONE judge that will push the lawsuit through :-(

    Which is part of the sad, sad world we live in...


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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Jimmy Anderson on Tue Nov 1 22:30:48 2016
    Jimmy,

    I see the NEED for it - what I don't see is a service like that being
    sued because they don't offer a particular service. They are not publ
    access vehicles - they are privately owned vehicles that people are
    using themselves to make a little extra money. It's not taxpayers
    dollars or anything.

    There was a time (not too long ago) where if you were Disabled (or
    handicapped as they called it back then) you accepted that there was
    certain things that just didn't apply to you. For instance, the movie
    house where I grew up was a small 4 screen movie theatre. The bathrooms
    were located UPSTAIRS meaning if you climed all the way up the top of
    the theater seats you could exit into a lobby ABOVE the concession stand
    and use the bathrooms. It was very compact and they made use of every
    bit of space they could. The bathrooms were located right behind the
    pojection booths.

    In the mid 2000's the theater was forced to close because of no access
    to bathrooms for wheelchair patrons... in fact they had no place for
    people in wheelchairs to come in and sit. The theater was built and
    designed in the 1950's. It worked for us for years, and most of the
    people of my generation enjoyed many shows there.

    Now my community has NO movie theater and we have to drive a very long
    distance just to see a movie. It's all because now all businesses
    -must- provide equal access for the disabled. Sadly, the westland 4
    movie theaters paid the penalty for not having an elevator. All
    buildings that the public can access or enter must have elevators and
    ramps.

    Even the grocery store that my best friend manages has the managers
    offices on the balcony above the front checkout. Unfortunately, they
    had to install an elevator there because they may someday get a disabled employee that would have to go up there.

    Most cab companies here have to provide vans that can handle a
    wheelchair upon request... it's the law... and they can't charge extra
    for it. Although there's a separate company called a "para-transit"
    company that provides wheelchair accessible vans and drivers because
    they "specialize" in that service they can charge more because all their
    rides are scheduled. But non disabled people can't use that service.
    Where is the equality in that?

    I may not be abel to see well but I don't force every restaruant to
    provide me a big print menu.

    ALlen
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