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Re: Not a troll...just a reality check

Posted by: Ron Findling
Date posted: Tue Jun 17 3:14:15 PDT 1997

[tsikes]
"However, the OS/2 folk should realize
that Windows NT is eating OS/2 for
lunch right now...its that simple. :-)

[Ron Findling]
"Why did you write that last line? Just
to annoy people? True or not, it certainly
has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
It sounds like a troll to me..."

[tsikes]
"I wrote it in response to the numerous
posts I'd just read which still seemed to
be lost in the OS/2 reality distortion
field of yore..."

It's still off-topic, and worded in such a
way as to imply you're trolling for a
flame. I could do the same about (say)
Windows, but why? Just to upset
Windows users, so I could call them
"Lemmings" when some responded,
defending it? Sorry, I don't think that's
right, nor fair to them.


"...the "over 10 million installed base"
claims etc. etc. etc."

You did know that OS/2 still has a
considerably larger user base than NT,
which won the recent poll? Even though
when *OS/2* won in previous polls,
those results were often denigrated
because of its supposedly "too small"
user base? Now can you see why such
comments are in fact relevant?


"In case you hadn't noticed, most of the
folk posting here seem to be OS/2 fans.
In general, they appear to be the only
ones who care about this entire debate."

That's because they care about their
operating system. That's because they
like it. That's because they chose it.
That's why it's won so many polls in the
past. Those polls were suprisingly
similar to how real-world democratic
votes work - not everyone votes, only
those who care to vote, do. Except the
vote-counters don't get to throw out the
results if one candidate they don't like
wins by "too much." Do you get it now?


"Most others appear to ascribe the usual
level of relevance to this entire award
thing, i.e. approximately zero."

The award *is* basically irrelevant.
After all, OS/2 loses all the time to
competitors in other awards given in
other places where (for example) editors
alone make the choices, without nearly
as much protest.

But that's not really the issue. The issue
is that yet again, the opinion that "OS/2
is best" has been trampled upon by
people who care more about what their
advertisers think than what their readers
think. This has been basically admitted
to by the purposeful skewing by the
editors which only targeted subscribers,
(who often lied to get that subscription)
even though they're claiming that the
results "accurately" reflect what all
their *readers* think is best.

Remember, only people who could
*impress* those advertisers could *get*
a subscription, and since only
subscribers got to vote, that shows a
clear correlation.

BTW, if *you* don't care about this
topic, then why did you post a message
in the first place? And if you do care,
why denigrate others who also care?

Hoping to see an on-topic response...


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