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  • Clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS?

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 05:45:39 2020
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    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
    G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or
    can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
    (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 08:47:35 2020
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    In article <NIydnYIPK8ZOimbDnZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
    G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
    (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    classic is part of mac os x.
    mac os 9 is not.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 1 08:39:08 2020
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    On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:

    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
    G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
    (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 18:59:32 2020
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    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <NIydnYIPK8ZOimbDnZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    classic is part of mac os x.
    mac os 9 is not.

    Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 18:59:55 2020
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    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:

    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Oh. Hmm.
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  • From ErikRS@mac-dane@is.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 1 02:25:21 2020
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    Ant wrote:
    Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
    No, 'Classic' in OS X (up to 10.4.11) is only a controlpane which
    controls OS 9.x when run in 'Classic Mode' under OS X.
    This means that you'll need a Mac OS 9.1 or 9.2 retail CD to install OS 9.1/9.2.x. On the harddisk you then will get 3 new folders 'System', 'Applications (mac OS 9) and 'Documents'.
    When you've finished the installation of Mac OS 9.1/9.2 go to 'System Preferences' in your OS X. Open 'Classic' to start OS 9.x within your OS X 10.4.x. In the controlpane 'Classic' there also should be an 'Update'
    button. Click on this button and the OS 9.x update app will
    automatically find and install needed updates for the OS 9.x. When
    updating has finished, click on the 'Reboot Classic' button in the
    'Classic controlpane. After this just click 'Quit Classic'.
    Now in the OS X controlpanes go to the pane 'Startdisc'. Open this to
    see whether your computer is able to boot into OS 9.x. If I recall right from your original thread, your PB should be able to boot in OS 9.x.
    When you have bootet into OS 9.x you can install the OS 9.x compatible
    apps you want to have installed. And again restart the computer if the
    install app requires this.
    In the OS 9.x controlpanels select 'Start Disc', select the OS X and
    click on the 'Restart' button. The computer will now again boot into OS
    X 10.4.x, and you can now again select 'Classic' in the
    'systempreferences to start 'Classic' within OS X. - And - all the OS
    9.x apps you've installed can now be run within 'Classic Mode' in OS X
    10.4.x.
    I presume that you've installed OS X from a DVD and not the 4-disc CD
    set? If you could find such a 4-disc CD set, you will also get a full
    Mac OS 9.1.0 installer on disc 4. On the CD set there are some utility
    apps that isn't on a retail OS 9.1 or 9.2. - I don't have my set at hand so I can't tell/remember these tool applications...
    Cheers, Erik Richard
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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 20:30:21 2020
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    In article <rdgl5h$slr$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
    wrote:

    Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?

    No, 'Classic' in OS X (up to 10.4.11) is only a controlpane which
    controls OS 9.x when run in 'Classic Mode' under OS X.

    classic is much, much more than a control pane.

    the control pane, as you call it, is what's used to configure classic.
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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 20:30:22 2020
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    In article <Zc-dnegeR_B5TGbDnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    classic is part of mac os x.
    mac os 9 is not.

    Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?

    no.

    classic, aka blue box, was a feature of early versions of mac os x and
    what allowed it to boot and run mac os 9.

    what makes it confusing is that mac system 0 through mac os 9 are known
    as classic mac os.

    adding to the confusion is classic (the feature) does nothing unless
    mac os 9 is used to run old apps.

    macs from that era usually shipped with both mac os 9 and mac os x, so
    people just assumed it was a package deal, but in reality, you got two different oses with the mac.

    typically, mac os 9 and mac os x were installed on separate partitions,
    but that was only needed if dual-booting was required.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 1 01:26:20 2020
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    On 2020-07-01, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <Zc-dnegeR_B5TGbDnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
    <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
    G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or
    can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >> > > (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    classic is part of mac os x.
    mac os 9 is not.

    Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?

    no.

    classic, aka blue box, was a feature of early versions of mac os x and
    what allowed it to boot and run mac os 9.

    what makes it confusing is that mac system 0 through mac os 9 are known
    as classic mac os.

    adding to the confusion is classic (the feature) does nothing unless
    mac os 9 is used to run old apps.

    macs from that era usually shipped with both mac os 9 and mac os x, so
    people just assumed it was a package deal, but in reality, you got two different oses with the mac.

    typically, mac os 9 and mac os x were installed on separate partitions,
    but that was only needed if dual-booting was required.

    Usually installed both on the same drive, but I wasn't interested in
    dual booting.

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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jun 30 21:34:01 2020
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    In article <hm271sFb3jcU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:


    typically, mac os 9 and mac os x were installed on separate partitions,
    but that was only needed if dual-booting was required.

    Usually installed both on the same drive, but I wasn't interested in
    dual booting.

    i used to put 9 on a .dmg, which kept everything clean. mac os x was
    smart enough to automount the dmg when needed. whenever there was an
    update to mac os x, all i needed to do was copy the dmg.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 1 15:52:02 2020
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    On 2020-06-30 23:59:55 +0000, Ant said:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:

    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
    (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Oh. Hmm.

    Similar to running Windows in Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion on an
    Intel Mac, "Classic" mode is really a virtualisation of the older
    MacOS, so you need to have an install of MacOS 9 for "Classic" to work.

    Whenever you first run an old app after booting in MacOS X, you'll get
    a window that shows MacOS 9 booting, including the march of the control
    panel icons across the bottom if you make the window bigger. You can
    also start and shutdown / reboot "Classic" via the MacOS X System
    Preference pane or set "Classic" start automatically when MacOS X boots.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 1 04:49:06 2020
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    ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote:

    Ant wrote:
    Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?

    No, 'Classic' in OS X (up to 10.4.11) is only a controlpane which
    controls OS 9.x when run in 'Classic Mode' under OS X.

    So, like Mac OS X v10.2 that came with this old 2002 PowerBook G4.


    This means that you'll need a Mac OS 9.1 or 9.2 retail CD to install OS 9.1/9.2.x. On the harddisk you then will get 3 new folders 'System', 'Applications (mac OS 9) and 'Documents'.

    Uh, did PB G4's Mac OS X v10.2 come with that in its DVD installer or is
    that something else? I remember seeing its classic after installing v10.2.


    When you've finished the installation of Mac OS 9.1/9.2 go to 'System Preferences' in your OS X. Open 'Classic' to start OS 9.x within your OS
    X 10.4.x. In the controlpane 'Classic' there also should be an 'Update' button. Click on this button and the OS 9.x update app will
    automatically find and install needed updates for the OS 9.x. When
    updating has finished, click on the 'Reboot Classic' button in the
    'Classic controlpane. After this just click 'Quit Classic'.

    Now in the OS X controlpanes go to the pane 'Startdisc'. Open this to
    see whether your computer is able to boot into OS 9.x. If I recall right from your original thread, your PB should be able to boot in OS 9.x.

    When you have bootet into OS 9.x you can install the OS 9.x compatible
    apps you want to have installed. And again restart the computer if the install app requires this.

    In the OS 9.x controlpanels select 'Start Disc', select the OS X and
    click on the 'Restart' button. The computer will now again boot into OS
    X 10.4.x, and you can now again select 'Classic' in the
    'systempreferences to start 'Classic' within OS X. - And - all the OS
    9.x apps you've installed can now be run within 'Classic Mode' in OS X 10.4.x.

    Sounds like the same way with v10.2.


    I presume that you've installed OS X from a DVD and not the 4-disc CD
    set? If you could find such a 4-disc CD set, you will also get a full
    Mac OS 9.1.0 installer on disc 4. On the CD set there are some utility
    apps that isn't on a retail OS 9.1 or 9.2. - I don't have my set at hand
    so I can't tell/remember these tool applications...

    I have and installed from the four CDs from http://macintoshgarden.org: https://macintoshgarden.org/sites/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/Tiger_CD1.toast_.zip
    http://mirror.macintosharchive.org/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/Tiger_CD2.toast_.zip
    http://mirror.macintosharchive.org/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/Tiger_CD3.toast_.zip
    http://mirror.macintosharchive.org/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/Tiger_CD4.toast_.zip
    I guess I will have to install Mac OS 9.1.0 installer from its disc #4 then later.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 1 04:50:56 2020
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    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-06-30 23:59:55 +0000, Ant said:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:

    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >>> (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Oh. Hmm.

    Similar to running Windows in Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion on an
    Intel Mac, "Classic" mode is really a virtualisation of the older
    MacOS, so you need to have an install of MacOS 9 for "Classic" to work.

    Whenever you first run an old app after booting in MacOS X, you'll get
    a window that shows MacOS 9 booting, including the march of the control panel icons across the bottom if you make the window bigger. You can
    also start and shutdown / reboot "Classic" via the MacOS X System
    Preference pane or set "Classic" start automatically when MacOS X boots.

    Interesting. I don't recall v10.2.8 doing that but that was like 18
    years ago!

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Jul 2 09:46:21 2020
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    On 2020-07-01 09:50:56 +0000, Ant said:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-06-30 23:59:55 +0000, Ant said:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:

    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>>>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>>>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to >>>>> clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >>>>> (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Oh. Hmm.

    Similar to running Windows in Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion on an
    Intel Mac, "Classic" mode is really a virtualisation of the older
    MacOS, so you need to have an install of MacOS 9 for "Classic" to work.

    Whenever you first run an old app after booting in MacOS X, you'll get
    a window that shows MacOS 9 booting, including the march of the control
    panel icons across the bottom if you make the window bigger. You can
    also start and shutdown / reboot "Classic" via the MacOS X System
    Preference pane or set "Classic" start automatically when MacOS X boots.

    Interesting. I don't recall v10.2.8 doing that but that was like 18
    years ago!

    "Classic" has always done that. You won't have seen the march of the
    incons unless you clicked on the little disclosure triangle near the
    top, but it looked like this (except in colour of course):

    <https://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/images/chap3_0735713480/elementLinks/03fig06.jpg>


    With the disclosure triangle closed, you only saw the top strip and
    progress bar.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Thu Jul 2 04:46:48 2020
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    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Hmm, I guess I will reinstall its original v10.2 that came with classic
    and then retry upgrade to v10.4 to keep its classic. :(
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Jul 3 09:04:19 2020
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    On 2020-07-02 09:46:48 +0000, Ant said:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
    (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Hmm, I guess I will reinstall its original v10.2 that came with classic

    MacOS X 10.2 didn't come with MacOS 9 built-in either. It's always been
    a optional install from a separate disc (although if you have a DVD
    install disc, it may include all the separate CD dsics on the same
    media).

    I can't remember if the Classic system preference pane is always there,
    but it is simply non-functional without MacOS 9 installed separately.



    and then retry upgrade to v10.4 to keep its classic. :(

    Or just install MacOS 9.2 from its own install disc.

    Of course, having two versions of MacOS installed does require a lot
    more hard drive space. It also uses up more RAM when Classic is running.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 8 21:10:00 2020
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    Updates: I finally got them set up. I told PB G4's bootable system
    restore DVD to clean install and include Mac OS 9 disk drivers on the
    two splitted partitions I made from a single internal original HDD.
    Installed Mac OS X wouldn't let me activate its classic 9 since it can't
    find its classic system folder.

    I found out I still had to run its DVD inside the booted OS X Jaguar
    v10.2.1 for its "Install Applications & Mac OS 9". Now, I have its Mac
    OS 9. It had been so long since I did this! It was trippy to boot into
    its classic and so fast, but ugly. I don't remember it having iTunes!
    Woah.

    I also upgraded OS X to Tiger v10.4. I just need to update and test both
    OSes. :D


    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    Hello again.

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
    G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
    (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Jul 10 00:48:22 2020
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    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-07-02 09:46:48 +0000, Ant said:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
    clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >>> (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

    Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
    MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.

    Hmm, I guess I will reinstall its original v10.2 that came with classic

    MacOS X 10.2 didn't come with MacOS 9 built-in either. It's always been
    a optional install from a separate disc (although if you have a DVD
    install disc, it may include all the separate CD dsics on the same
    media).

    It came with the original DVD. I didn't do anything when I did a clean install to
    dual boot with Linux. It installed both Mac OS v10.2 and its classic. :/


    I can't remember if the Classic system preference pane is always there,
    but it is simply non-functional without MacOS 9 installed separately.

    According to my PowerBook G4's clean DVD installation a few years ago, it did.


    and then retry upgrade to v10.4 to keep its classic. :(

    Or just install MacOS 9.2 from its own install disc.

    Only if I had it.


    Of course, having two versions of MacOS installed does require a lot
    more hard drive space. It also uses up more RAM when Classic is running.

    Yeah, I don't mind. I am just keeping this old PB G4 simple. Nothing fancy. It will be for fun and nostalgia. ;)
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