• Re: Do you use a password manager?

    From Matti Haveri@nospam@here.invalid to alt.atheism,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc on Sat Feb 5 14:43:38 2022
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    In article <sch3ep$87h$1@dont-email.me>,
    Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> wrote:

    KeePassXC

    I used KeePassX 0.4.4 works up to OS X 10.11 and then, after some
    testing, settled to KeePassXC.

    I use the same .kdbx file at work with a KeePass Windows standalone
    version and it works great.

    I have advocated KeePass to the rest of the family and some use it and
    some don't preferring the iCloud keychain which also seems to work OK
    with less hassle.
    --
    - Matti
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.atheism,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc on Sat Feb 5 09:41:41 2022
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    On 02/05/2022 04:43 AM, Matti Haveri wrote:
    In article <sch3ep$87h$1@dont-email.me>,
    Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> wrote:

    KeePassXC

    I used KeePassX 0.4.4 works up to OS X 10.11 and then, after some
    testing, settled to KeePassXC.

    I use the same .kdbx file at work with a KeePass Windows standalone
    version and it works great.

    Does it put a text file containing the passwords on your computer or are
    you completely reliant on the thing ALWAYS working forever?

    I have advocated KeePass to the rest of the family and some use it and
    some don't preferring the iCloud keychain which also seems to work OK
    with less hassle.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
    is not thus handicapped."
    -- Elbert Hubbard, American author
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  • From Dan Purgert@dan@djph.net to alt.atheism,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc on Sat Feb 5 19:03:07 2022
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    The Real Bev wrote:
    Does it put a text file containing the passwords on your computer or are
    you completely reliant on the thing ALWAYS working forever?

    No. You're reliant on the software continuing to work -- the "database"
    file is encrypted.

    Equivalent of being reliant on say gpg continuing to work to decrypt a
    text file or something.


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  • From Matti Haveri@nospam@here.invalid to alt.atheism,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc on Sun Feb 6 11:39:23 2022
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    In article <stmcsl$vgs$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    Does it put a text file containing the passwords on your computer or are
    you completely reliant on the thing ALWAYS working forever?

    I have a master .kdbx file and occasionally copy it to my other accounts
    via sneaker net (iOS devices, Windows at work, various macOS test clones virtual machines etc). So if for some reason the master does not work
    (never happened yet), I can revert to those somewhat older backups. Or
    if also that fails, I can revert to macOS Keychain.
    --
    - Matti
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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to alt.atheism,comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.misc on Sun Feb 6 19:27:52 2022
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    On Jul 12, 2021 at 1:53:00 AM PDT, "Unbreakable Disease" <unbreakable@secmail.pro> wrote:

    My 50-year old brain isn't capable of memorizing that many passwords
    anymore, so I use KeePassXC. I keep basically everything here including
    my financial passwords and credit card data, with the exception of
    passwords that I would have to remember anyway (full-disk encryption,
    login, primary e-mail passwords, etc.)

    Overall, it's much easier to remember and much harder to forget 10 complicated passwords that you use everyday than 100+ simple passwords
    you use every month or even less.

    I can't speak about Windows version of KeePass, because with the
    exception of playing games not available on Macintosh, I haven't used
    one since Windows 95 days.

    I have the older version (non-subscription) of 1Password, but also make use of the keychain password manager and the manager built-in to Safari (I use Safari on both the mac and the ipad/iphone).

    Only lately, when I'm offered a complex "strong password" of jibberish, I take it. That's working well too.

    But I also use a variation on the same password: I selected two capitalized words (for instance ArchBasket with a few numbers, 245, then the first two letters of the intended website, for instance AMazon. Then I use this same password everywhere, with the exception of those last two letters. ArchBasket245am, for Powell's books: ArchBasket245po.

    It's easy to remember.
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  • From Siri Cruise@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to alt.atheism,comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.misc on Sun Feb 6 18:21:06 2022
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    In article <stp7fn$tn4$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
    wrote:

    But I also use a variation on the same password: I selected two capitalized

    merde d'oie.
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  • From El Kabong@twang@the.noodle to alt.atheism,comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.misc on Sun Feb 6 22:16:31 2022
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    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

    On Jul 12, 2021 at 1:53:00 AM PDT, "Unbreakable Disease" <unbreakable@secmail.pro> wrote:

    My 50-year old brain isn't capable of memorizing that many passwords anymore, so I use KeePassXC. I keep basically everything here including
    my financial passwords and credit card data, with the exception of passwords that I would have to remember anyway (full-disk encryption, login, primary e-mail passwords, etc.)

    Overall, it's much easier to remember and much harder to forget 10 complicated passwords that you use everyday than 100+ simple passwords
    you use every month or even less.

    I can't speak about Windows version of KeePass, because with the
    exception of playing games not available on Macintosh, I haven't used
    one since Windows 95 days.

    I have the older version (non-subscription) of 1Password, but also make use of
    the keychain password manager and the manager built-in to Safari (I use Safari
    on both the mac and the ipad/iphone).

    Only lately, when I'm offered a complex "strong password" of jibberish, I take
    it. That's working well too.

    But I also use a variation on the same password: I selected two capitalized words (for instance ArchBasket with a few numbers, 245, then the first two letters of the intended website, for instance AMazon. Then I use this same password everywhere, with the exception of those last two letters. ArchBasket245am, for Powell's books: ArchBasket245po.

    It's easy to remember.

    With the latter system, if someone ever found out your
    Powell's password (say, a rogue Powell admin), they might
    easily guess your amazon & other passwords from that.

    Also, if you should occasionally change a password, what
    are you going to change it to? Your system doesn't allow
    a lot of variation.

    (i keep passwords in an encrypted excel file. Excel
    always works, and it's safe for cloud storage.)
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.atheism,comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.misc on Mon Feb 7 14:57:36 2022
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    On 02/06/2022 06:21 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <stp7fn$tn4$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
    wrote:

    But I also use a variation on the same password: I selected two capitalized

    merde d'oie.

    The American version would be merde de cheval or possibly merde de
    poulet, depending on the nature of the merde.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
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  • From Siri Cruise@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to alt.atheism,comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.misc on Mon Feb 7 19:21:50 2022
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    In article <sts850$dbi$2@dont-email.me>,
    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 02/06/2022 06:21 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <stp7fn$tn4$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
    wrote:

    But I also use a variation on the same password: I selected two capitalized

    merde d'oie.

    The American version would be merde de cheval or possibly merde de
    poulet, depending on the nature of the merde.

    Or the Fountainhead. One of Toohey's disciples uses it in faux
    brave nonconformist fashion pretending he is so brave saying
    birdshit evem though nobody undrstsnds him to be outrwaged. this
    contrasts to Roark who would just say burdsghit without nrrding
    to outrage or shock.
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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to alt.atheism,comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.misc on Sat Feb 12 21:35:14 2022
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    On Jul 12, 2021 at 1:53:00 AM PDT, "Unbreakable Disease" <unbreakable@secmail.pro> wrote:

    My 50-year old brain isn't capable of memorizing that many passwords
    anymore, so I use KeePassXC. I keep basically everything here including
    my financial passwords and credit card data, with the exception of
    passwords that I would have to remember anyway (full-disk encryption,
    login, primary e-mail passwords, etc.)

    Overall, it's much easier to remember and much harder to forget 10 complicated passwords that you use everyday than 100+ simple passwords
    you use every month or even less.

    I can't speak about Windows version of KeePass, because with the
    exception of playing games not available on Macintosh, I haven't used
    one since Windows 95 days.

    I'm really glad this topic came up. I'm sorting through the drek of old users/passwords in Safari's stash, and Firefox's and 1Password v6 which I now realize hasn't been working in Safari, but has in Firefox. It's a total mess.
    I think I'll spend a few days trying to sort it out...
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