• Re: iOS 17 Apple considered ditching Google for DuckDuckGo in Safari's private mode

    From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps on Fri Oct 6 15:39:22 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote

    Microsoft claims Apple said no due to pressure by Google.

    Sensible logic implies otherwise... as Apple isn't the type of company to succumb to "pressure" (as even Meta couldn't sway Apple, for example).

    If you read any article about Apple's incestuous relationship with Google
    (and vice versa), the word "lucrative" shows up tellingly.

    Given that Google is Apple's biggest customer (as far as I remember), and
    that Apple sold its users' privacy to Google (who is Apple's biggest
    customer), I'd say that greed was the reason and not "pressure" by M$.

    This is not to say Microsoft isn't greedy (they are), nor is it to say that Google isn't as greedy as is Apple (they are too); but just that Apple's reasons likely had more to do with how much they made from the Google deal.
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  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps on Fri Oct 6 16:51:39 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

    This is not to say Microsoft isn't greedy (they are), nor is it to say that >> Google isn't as greedy as is Apple (they are too); but just that Apple's
    reasons likely had more to do with how much they made from the Google deal. >>

    According to what I've seen here Apple has the purest of intentions, never lies, values your privacy, makes the best hardware and software, and hates capitalism. How could you equate Apple to Google and Microsoft? Your Name will have a conniption!

    I can't disagree with you that Apple is Jesus himself incarnated, born of
    the Virgin and incapable of sinning in the name of their investors behalf.

    You don't even have to believe me as Apple will tell it to you straight.

    Apple said in Your Name's own .macrumors reference, and I quote
    "‌Eddy Cue‌ this week had to testify in the trial, and he explained
    why Google is the ‌iPhone‌'s default search engine. "We make Google
    be the default search engine because we've always thought it was
    the best," Cue said. He went on to say that Apple has not gone
    with another search engine provider because there is no
    "valid alternative."

    See? *No money involved.*

    Apple went with Google purely because "we always thought it was the best." Plus. "There is no valid alternative" to Google's search engine.

    *Nothing about money here*.

    Nor any mention about selling Apple users' privacy to the highest bidder.
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    I prefer to discuss topics on the Apple Usenet newsgroups at the level
    an adult would appreciate and not at the level of the child-like iKooks.
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